hansum

According to the land registery prices are up year on year, though down from the peaks of a couple of years ago but theyre certainly not crashing as of yet.

http://housepricecra...nal-monthly.php

I was with you in thinking they were going to crash and if the vile labour government didnt <deleted> over savers to protect the reckless we'd have been correct ... but with .5% interest rates possibly for years to come despite higher then forecast inflation, and with QE to boosts the banks balances and ability to loan im starting to think they may fall a little but just stagnate for 10 years or so.

I think we'll no a lot more 12 months from now as to how the longer term economy is going to perform, i dont think anyone really knows whats going to happen at the moment long term.

PS I'm looking to buy for somewhere to live and keep it for the rest of my days despite being early 30s ... not to make money though obviously im wanting value for money.

Dont you care about the disaster that BP have caused? so much sea life that has been effected!! makes me sick people who invest in there shares to make a quick buck...

Barack is that you????

Go to the condo complex on soi 30/1 (Waterford Diamond Tower) ... there is a very good gym in there called Balance Health club ... its not busy has a pool jacuzzi and a very good selection of weights all for 1500 a month with no contract, no annoying sales people or fitness instructors ... far better all round then those gyms youve mentioned.

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One of the strangest things is the exchange rates. I am UK and bought at 75 (ish) we are now down at 48/9. You just look at the figures and now say ohh my god I made a very serious investment, when it was just meant to be a simple Pad Thai.

Well done pkrv, we all did well buying 2+ years ago.

Yes if youve sold and put the money back into sterling. Thing i like about forever rising house prices in BKK is that it prices those Thais who work long and hard and only make 30,000 bht or so a month out of the property market ... its fantastic dont you agree?

Hmm interesting Why on gods earth would I choose to put the money back into sterling - I don't know if you have noticed but you sort of have one life - How I choose to lead mine in my choice, how you choose to lead yours, is of course your choice. I admit however that the exchange rate does give a certain comfort factor. You seem to be confusing House/Land ownership and Condominium ownership issues - Please be aware I have fought very hard, on these very diverse topics, before.

Well as you were the one boasting about buying at 75 to the pound and then relating it to it being 48/49 now, it was you that was implying youd make money by converting it back to sterling.

If you didnt convert it back to Sterling then you havent actually made a bean if you sold it at the same baht price you bought it for ... comprende?

Hansum;

Thank you for the advise, it is an interesting idea. I am actually American and not British, but the idea is still an interesting one. I had been leaning towards puchasing 1 or maybe 2, 2 bedroom condo's here in Bangkok as this is my residence for the duration but I was not sure if the market was down enough to make money over the long hall. I also see a great deal of building going on and reading about sales on condo's so I'm not sure if there is a market clut right now....

Again, Thank you

C

Surely youd be best off buying in the US as from what i gather your govt hasnt gone all out to keep house prices inflated ... and theyve crashed already .... there must be some areas in the states where jobs will remain high and theyve crashed already ... but again its best to get a buy2let mortgage if you can as opposed to dropping all your money into an apartment.

Good Morning;

What is the rental market going to be like? If I wish to puchase a 1 or 2 bedroom condo for rental and long term investment, say 10+ years, does this still look like something that makes any sense at all? There are many many condo's coming available and renting a 2 bedroom may be easier than a 1 bedroom and easier to resell but I'm not sure. What are the general thoughts some have on this, buying for long term investements.

Cheers

C.

OK i'll offer you advice ...

If you can, use other peoples money to make money.

Now im presuming youre British so why not get a 50% mortgage and buy a house that is on its OWN land in a University town, do it up too a high standard and let the university rent it out for you.

This way youre using someone elses money to make money which is how people get rich these days or at least they did .... and as you will only get 3-4% Yield at current prices in the UK the rent should cover the costs for a 50% mortgage.

Though i do believe property prices in the UK are due to fall now the economy ruining dumfuk Gordon Brown doesnt need to artificially inflate prices to stay in power.

I have attached a link to an opinion that the UK property market will not recover for a while. That is from my casual reading today. Hard data on this subject is all over the web. It is not a secret as to how bad the UK economy and housing industry is right now.

http://www.telegraph...s-says-PWC.html

What would be the point of offering an opinion without some understanding of the current market?

I am more aware then most of current market conditions as ive a load of money in the bank to buy once prices go down .... ive been waiting 4 years now, but read the last sentence i wrote.

The advice of using the banks money instead of buying outright is correct.

Ive got to post my passport from BKK to the UK asap to get a new work visa. (not for Thailand)

Are there any services in the regular post office that guarantee your passport will definitely get there by say Tuesday next week.

Or is it a case of using Fedex TNT?

Thanks for any info in advance

Good Morning;

What is the rental market going to be like? If I wish to puchase a 1 or 2 bedroom condo for rental and long term investment, say 10+ years, does this still look like something that makes any sense at all? There are many many condo's coming available and renting a 2 bedroom may be easier than a 1 bedroom and easier to resell but I'm not sure. What are the general thoughts some have on this, buying for long term investements.

Cheers

C.

OK i'll offer you advice ...

If you can, use other peoples money to make money.

Now im presuming youre British so why not get a 50% mortgage and buy a house that is on its OWN land in a University town, do it up too a high standard and let the university rent it out for you.

This way youre using someone elses money to make money which is how people get rich these days or at least they did .... and as you will only get 3-4% Yield at current prices in the UK the rent should cover the costs for a 50% mortgage.

Though i do believe property prices in the UK are due to fall now the economy ruining dumfuk Gordon Brown doesnt need to artificially inflate prices to stay in power.

Any bets one which way the market will move from here?

Up up and up you and i know that property can only go up, maybe slower for a while but then it'll boom again and then boom a bit more as the Chinese are coming:rolleyes:

One of the strangest things is the exchange rates.

I am UK and bought at 75 (ish) we are now down at 48/9. You just look at the figures and now say ohh my god I made a very serious investment, when it was just meant to be a simple Pad Thai.

Well done pkrv, we all did well buying 2+ years ago.

Yes if youve sold and put the money back into sterling.

Thing i like about forever rising house prices in BKK is that it prices those Thais who work long and hard and only make 30,000 bht or so a month out of the property market ... its fantastic dont you agree?

Imola - You might also like to disagree with his made up story about foreign managers having more and better qualifications ... though im aware there is or were exemptions for older managers like fergie or temporary ones like Shearer.

Id accept that many coaches for kids teams havent got a clue and should be better educated in teaching kids but that a whole new thread.

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Work as a manager/coach in the professional game, or Academy Manager.

Most candidates complete within 2 years.

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<br>And continue to play craX at international level I guess, and in a nutshell I suppose we care more for the league than the national team so shouldn't really complain when it goes pair shaped as it invariably does and will.

<br>Having 20 clubs hasnt done Spain in 2010, Italy in 2006, or France in 1998 any harm in winning the WC, but if Capello wants a break they should give him it but theyll still end up playing the same amount of games, its nicer to drive to games in the summer anyway ... but im sticking with the theory that these undoubtedly very good players just cant play as a team as many very good players in teams have failed in the past.

I hope Capello uses bravery and fair judgement to drop players who he considers too tired, and perhaps uses fresher but less talentedted alternatives, it's the only practicable solution.

Hope so its time for a huge overhaul starting with Lampard in the central midfield ..... there are a several very good youngsters out there at the moment.Everton have Rodwell, Arsenal have Wilkshire, Man City have A Johnson thats 3 that have already shown theyre up to the job, im sure we'll see a few more come through this season.

A significant section of bike riders are an accident wating to happen and have no respect for others on the road or pedestrians ... if he was drunk and driving like a fool, both of which we dont know

I dont really know that much about football but I do find this whole 'Premiership stars' were knackered a little difficult to understand. I know they generally play more matches over the course of the year.

They dont.

Are you sure they don't ?

Germany for instance has 18 premier teams versus 20 in England. In addition, I think they only have one domestic cup competition, and as far as I'm aware England is usually one of the most represented nations in the European competitions frequently featuring in various finals. Germany has a winter break too as we have discussed.

But even then for whatever reason, English players are just not arriving in an acceptable state, and it really doesn't matter about stats it's about what is really happening!

I read this a while back

http://news.bbc.co.u...ine/8783206.stm

"All our players were really tired at this competition," Fabio Capello said in the press conference that followed his team's defeat by Germany. It is a common perception that the English play too many games, with two domestic cup competitions as well as the Premier League. But is it an accurate one?

Looking at the number of matches the 22 players had been involved in, from the start of the season until kick-off in Bloemfontein on Sunday, it appears that the German starting XI had actually played more games than the English.

They played a total of 577 league, cup and international games, including friendlies. England's team played 555. Partial matches, such as substitute appearances, counted as full games.

But before England fans accuse Capello of using fatigue as an excuse for poor performance, they should consider two factors. One is that the German players enjoyed a winter break in the Bundesliga (their premier league).

And the other is that the Premier League is considered to be more fast, intense and physically draining than other leagues.

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I cant agree that our leagues more physically draining then the Bundesliga ... if you run 10-12km or whatever it is a players runs during a game it isnt going to be more draining in England then in Germany.

Thing is i agree that some games should be taken from the calender ... firstly pointless games against San Marino and such teams (make WC and Euro qualifying groups have 4 or 5 teams in, that'll be 2 -4 less games a year) .... and also the many pointless games in both European cups ... again have less teams this will take another couple of pointless games no one is interested in away.

Players from the more succesful clubs dont play in the League Cup (except maybe in the Final) so altering this isnt going to make too much difference ... and the FANS like the Premier league and the amount of game played so leave it exactly how it is.

Sounds similar to the 2 minutes of hate when the Proles shout at the enemy being pictured on TV screens in 1984.

This reinforces my belief that people generally get what they give. If any farang is being treated badly in Thailand, it's usually because he/she is behaving badly in some shape or form.

I went into immigration in Jomtien with lots of paperwork showing ive a kid that was born here and that i'm the father the other week, i was given the list of details to bring by a lady in this office the day before.

Anyway i went in there as polite as can be, with my kid and the mother of our baby and asked to extend my visa by 60 days (as im legally allowed to do) and explained the reasons.

After him looking at the paperwork he went into some rant for me to go to BKK to get it done throwing the paperwork to oneside and basically told us &lt;deleted&gt; off in as rude a manner as the mother of my child has ever seen in Thailand ... she's been away from here for 10yrs and was stunned to see such behaviour.

So i went to speak to the lady id seen the day prior, she kindly extended my visa and asked if id like to make a complaint about this w4nker and that he does things like this a lot for no apparant reason .... he was quite clearly a farang hating pr7ck who instead of just getting on with his job prefered to make trouble for foreigners .... so you see even if you are as polite as can be it isnt too difficult to come across farang hating Thais.

Sven spent 100s of millions to win Serie A and almost bankrupted Lazio theyve never come close since his mass spending spree ... it was more to do with cash as opposed to his tactical genius which is a myth, he had the best players in the 2006 WC and he failed with them ... A lot of these players were the most important players in their clubs who had dominated champions league football at this time so they must have done something correct and please dont say this is more or less down to foreigners in the clubs as when Liverpool won the Champs League it was more or less down to Gerrard playing out of his skin.

And please stop coming out with your usual it sounds like tabloid line are you trying to tell me Gerrard Ferdinand Rooney ACole JCole Lampard are technically inadequate .... the richest team in Spain wishes to buy 3 of them, and will possibly get 2 of them in the coming weeks why would they wish to buy technically inferior players?

Im doubting Capello would have come to manage England if he didnt think they had the players that were good enough to win tournaments.

sven spent money at lazio yes, but he was competing with milan, inter, juventus and others who all spent money. he didn't 'buy' the title there any more than he bought it in portugal or sweden. he's a good manager. 'he had the best players in the 2006 WC' is yet more hype and nonsense. and i think you'll find that far from 'dominating' the champions league at the time, liverpool in 2005 were the first team to win it since united in 1999.

please don't try and tell me why liverpool won the european cup in 2005 by the way, you just sound silly. gerrard had a fine game in the final but at least as important as him in that match were dietmar hamann and xabi alonso. for several of liverpool's best performances in that european cup run gerrard wasn't even playing.

england's players AREN'T good enough to win international tournaments, as they keep proving. i'm sorry but you do still sound like a tabloid journalist pathetically griping that 'well they're the best paid players in the world who play in the best league in the world so they should be capable of winning a world cup blah blah blah'. they keep on proving they're not up to it, even when coached by one of the very best managers around. through a combination of not being technically good enough to compete with teams which can play in different ways at the top level, being emotionally immature clowns who need their egos brushing 24 hours a day and being simply overpaid and overhyped, england will not come near winning a world cup for the foreseeable future - and this lot were supposed to be some kind of 'golden generation'. hype over substance as always.

You seem to keep coming out with the tabloid journalism jibe yet dont go anywhere close to explaining why those players i listed dont have technical ability, when they play pivotal roles in some of the best and most successful teams in the world ... furthermore their is no need to make up lies up implying i think that because they are the best paid the should automatically win to back up your point of view.

But please come on explain technical ability?????? as this is the ultimate in media driven &lt;deleted&gt; about the best English players that youre clinging too .. .. is being able to control the ball, make esquisite aswell as simple passes and change the pace of the game to suit not technical ability as all those players i listed before have this ability ... or do they need the same kind of technical ability that De Jong and his fellow Dutch bruisers Van Bommell have?

I have never once said England would win this WC this is another load of &lt;deleted&gt; your implying ..... as imho the players were past their prime, half injured, not good enough, or just out of form aswell as the team lacking a top keeper ...... though as they had potentially a very easy route to the semi final i thought they might get lucky as both Italy and France with average ageing teams were 4 years ago .... but they should have done a lot better then they did and for this reason the manager must take some responsibility in that he made many strange selections (ie Milner on the left and no fit left footer in the squad) and picked a team that for years has shown they just dont seem to be able to play good football on a regular basis.

I dont really know that much about football but I do find this whole 'Premiership stars' were knackered a little difficult to understand. I know they generally play more matches over the course of the year.

They dont.

Oh yes Sven is a tactical genius, no English manager comes close to such a visionary.

The few English managers that have gone abroad that i can think of had all had instant success Robson, Mclaren, Venables im taking it this means they were just lucky against their superior rival coaches?

If these foreign managers are so good how come not one of them has managed to get a team finished above their predicted position (ie money spent) ... it took Spurs all these years to get 4th with an Englishman after a string of foreign managers. (though i believe that Dutchman may have done so before leaving them at the foot of the table) .... Though i wont include Wenger in this as he is imho head and shoulders above all managers no matter where theyre from.

And as for players being technically inept ... as a Nation id say we're not as good as we should be, but most of Englands best first 11 are as good technically as any other of the worlds best players ... its after that it gets scarce.

same eriksson who has won the league in several different countries including italy yes? whether you like it or not the fact is that coaches from italy, spain, germany, holland and particularly france are better trained and better qualified than their english counterparts. the qualifications they have to pass to be a coach are simply more rigorous - in england it's usually enough to simply be an ex-player, such as the clueless shearer at newcastle. robson and venables were decent coaches who paid attention to the tactical side of the game and learned more progressive methods abroad - something more english coaches should do if they want to improve.

your last line just sounds like the usual tabloid crap about the england team by the way. most of england's first 11 simply aren't 'as good technically as any other of the world's best' as they keep proving in tournaments where they can't even complete ten yard passes to one another. they're more hyped than their opponents certainly - they're nowhere near as good footballers technically.

Sven spent 100s of millions to win Serie A and almost bankrupted Lazio theyve never come close since his mass spending spree ... it was more to do with cash as opposed to his tactical genius which is a myth, he had the best players in the 2006 WC and he failed with them ... A lot of these players were the most important players in their clubs who had dominated champions league football at this time so they must have done something correct and please dont say this is more or less down to foreigners in the clubs as when Liverpool won the Champs League it was more or less down to Gerrard playing out of his skin.

And please stop coming out with your usual it sounds like tabloid line are you trying to tell me Gerrard Ferdinand Rooney ACole JCole Lampard are technically inadequate .... the richest team in Spain wishes to buy 3 of them, and will possibly get 2 of them in the coming weeks why would they wish to buy technically inferior players?

Im doubting Capello would have come to manage England if he didnt think they had the players that were good enough to win tournaments.

Come off it! To blame the shortcomings of the England team on foreign coaches is just plain silly!!!!

For a start SGE actually has one of the best track records as England manager, and Capello has a a good winning rate too.!!

The League system is to blame by about 60% IMHO, and after that people like those pairofunts Terry and Cole A.

Don't get me wrong personally I would have like Redknapp in charge, I saw him develop at Bournemouth. But Capello is an excellent coach.

calm down dear. the question was 'why did england appoint capello, is it because foreign coaches are so much more tactically astute than our home grown lot?' to which the answer is 'yep'.

that the majority of english players are technically inept and tactically incapable is a whole other discussion.

Oh yes Sven is a tactical genius, no English manager comes close to such a visionary.

The few English managers that have gone abroad that i can think of had all had instant success Robson, Mclaren, Venables im taking it this means they were just lucky against their superior rival coaches?

If these foreign managers are so good how come not one of them has managed to get a team finished above their predicted position (ie money spent) ... it took Spurs all these years to get 4th with an Englishman after a string of foreign managers. (though i believe that Dutchman may have done so before leaving them at the foot of the table) .... Though i wont include Wenger in this as he is imho head and shoulders above all managers no matter where theyre from.

And as for players being technically inept ... as a Nation id say we're not as good as we should be, but most of Englands best first 11 are as good technically as any other of the worlds best players ... its after that it gets scarce.

<br>.<br>take the 4 premier league based players that played in the final.<br>kuyt, rvp, torres and fabregas.<br>yes the may have made it to the finals with their respective teams, but they didnt exactly set the world a light with their footballing skills and contribute much over the duration of the tournament. did they?<br>

<br>Not forgetting De Jong and Hetinger.<br><br>But no not many set the world cup on fire as the football was shyt .... but what your saying is that all national managers must live in fear that their players are going to go to England and burn themselves out.<br><br>If this is the case then surely all Cup Finals at the end of the season have players running around that are ready for the knackers yard.<br><br>And Capello has made a lot of excuses but none seem to be down to his mistakes.<br><br><br>

hansum- sorry I forgot to say - it doesn't matter how good they are, they are no good if fatigued.

You may forget but last winter was one of the worst in England for years and many top flights games got cancelled so the players did get a rest .... Bayern Munich got a break but they go to the Middle East to play several exhibition matches.

Beckham and Rooney have gone to recent tournaments and played when blatantly injured, this isnt fatigued its bad managerial decisions ... Barry, King, JCole, originally Ferdinand and no doubt others at this tournament.

England players play no more then any other in the top leagues, theyre rested for all league Cup games and most FA cup games aswell as being in huge squads so they can miss games at appropriate times ... but if this theory is correct then 4 of the Dutch team should have been knackered throughout this tournament.

My theory is that since 1996/98 they havent had a group of players that can play together ... or at least had a manager willing to pick players in their correct position ... too many square pegs in round holes for too long, and Capello to my amazement was worse then Sven when it came to the tournament .... ie taking Wright Phillips and Lennon who are almost identical right footed players instead of A Johnson or Downing who are left footers.

For a start SGE actually has one of the best track records as England manager, and Capello has a a good winning rate too.!!

But Sven had in many peoples view the best group of players England have ever had at their peaks, and all he done was get to the quarter finals.

And are you just arguing for the sake of it in defending Capello? We had a p7ss easy qualifying group, but since then I cant see one decent decision he's made at this WC from his squad selection onwards.

An absolute joke now all anyone has to do to get a life provided by the British taxpayer is pretend theyre gay.<br>

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This bloke should just not go around flaunting it in his own country like no doubt 100s of thousands do.<br>

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At least they admit that PAD seized the airport.

There is nothing wrong in seized an airport or two.

Try saying that to all the people stranded around the world and those who couldnt export or import and those who lost perishable goods.

Besides the **ok fools cost me 600 GBP and 3 days stuck in airports.

Did you file your claims?

No.

No one did.

No claims = no losses, according to the law.

What a perfect specimen of the Thai education system you are.

Are you seriously telling me that because people didnt sue the Yellow Shirt movement that no one lost money ....