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On 7/18/2020 at 4:40 PM, ubonjoe said:
No difference between the new one and the existing one.
No need to apply for an extension until near the end of it if you have not left the country.
Discussed already in other topics here and in the news forum.
I think the situations might be be different actually. Further clarification should follow the official announcement on Tuesday, I guess.
The situation until July 31 has been being referred to as an "amnesty", which I would submit, is actually a misnomer, since the legal lengths of stay were extended to July 31st, and since people covered under the visa extension program are staying legally, they do not need amnesty. Encyclopedia Britannica: "Amnesty, in criminal law, sovereign act of oblivion or forgetfulness (from Greek amnēsia) for past acts, granted by a government to persons who have been guilty of crimes."
It sounds like what is happening now might be different, and actually may be a true "amnesty". For example:
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The nuance turns on the phrase "after their visas expire on July 31st". If they are saying that the visas/lengths of stay are going to expire on July 31st, but they will not prosecute people who stay beyond that and leave before September 26th, then this would be a true amnesty period and not the same as the current period of time.
The difference could be important, not just semantic, because, for example, if one's legal length of stay expires on 7/31 and technically their status becomes an overstay period, it may no longer be possible to do things like apply to extend certain visa types.
The representative in this BKK post article also indicated that until 9/26, people could apply for a 30-day extension, which it was stated, would be granted on a case by case basis, based on whether or not the individual proved that they are in fact actually not able to travel home due to COVID. It was not mentioned that other forms of extension could be applied for, and it was also clear in the article that these were based on literally being not able to travel home and being able to convince immigration of this.
More clarification should follow the official announcements on Tuesday, I think.
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Thanks to all for confirming your experiences.
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Could I ask a question, does anyone know if it is possible to do the 1-year marriage visa extension after first obtaining a 60 day extension.
I am trying to decide which to apply for as 7/31 comes closer, I have never done the 1-year thing before. Seems like a lot of paperwork and financial things to get together in a short time. Wondering if it's an option to just do the 60-day extension for now and see how things go with the virus, etc., and maybe tackle the 1-year thing later.
Thanks for any tips/experience
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14 minutes ago, time2093 said:
Don't know why your making a big stink over this as its common knowledge when you enter a country by air you must leave with the same passport.
I don't think OP is making a "big stink" over it. I think their posts have been level headed and logical. This is a forum dedicated to sorting out thai visa issues, so I dont understand why someone who is posting about sorting out a thai visa issue needs to be unnecessarily criticized for doing so.
There are 190 or so countries/jurisdictions/territories on the earth, each with their own rules. It's news to me that it is a universal rule that if you go into country A by air with a given passport you must use that same passport to exit.
At least one counter example, once I entered Thailand with a son of mine who is Thai but we had never gotten him a Thai passport. He entered Thailand with his US passport, and we obtained a Thai passport for him in Thailand. When we left Thailand, we used his Thai passport.
I think it is general knowledge that there are border controls and that when you cross an international border, you are ordinarily asked to establish evidence that you have the right to do this, and demonstrating this ordinarily involves one or more passports or other official travel/citizenship/identity documents, but I don't see that there is a general rule that the same passport must be used for entry and exit, particularly in a complex case like OP mentions.Whether or not OP and his daughter had the right to exit is not necessarily an open and shut legal issue that can be solved with common sense that everyone knows about. I think input from someone who has actual knowledge of the details of Thai law could be helpful here.
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5 minutes ago, chuang said:
No one has the 'right' to enter another country it's a privilege not a right....
did you read the original post?
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Im interested in the 60 day extension as well.
I have not been able to find a Thai government website with the list of required documents. I have found lots of English language, non-official websites listing the documents that are needed and they seem consistent with one another.
However this one puzzles me:
- A signed copy of the home owner's ID card – if not your wife.
We live in a rental condominium. Do they really want us to track down the person or agent of the corporation who owns the condominium and ask them to provide to us a copy of their personal ID with their signature on it?
I believe our condominium is owned by a corporation.
Anyone have experience with this? Thanks
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Do you think they were genuinely questioning whether or not she was same individual as the person in the expired passport?
I could imagine if the picture in the old passport were for example 5 years old, when she was 7, maybe they are genuinely not sure it is really her.As far as whether or not she legally has the right (or rather, she and a parent legally have the right) to exit the country in the situation you describe would be for someone with knowledge of Thai law to answer.
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On 4/24/2020 at 1:44 AM, fhickson said:
I miss seeing all the uni girls throughout the day, even if they are a bit young.
this guy sounds like a perv.
i fail to see any perversion in an older guy saying that he finds women in their 20s to be attractive
this concept of guys calling each other perverts nowadays at the drop of a hat reminds me of the cultural revolution or khmer rogue, you better be actively accusing everyone else around you of being counter-revolutionary, because if you are not actively doing so, it means you must be counter-revolutionary yourself
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On 4/21/2020 at 12:11 PM, coops said:
https://www.unescap.org/sites/default/files/1 Broadband-Infrastructure-in-the-ASEAN-9-Region.pdf
International bandwidth per capita :-
Thailand 6 Kbps (yes, that's K bps )
Singapore 258 Kbps
Malaysia 15 Kbps, and the rest all below Thailand.. so it could be a lot worse. ????
Those data are kind of outdated though, in the file it says "Between late‐2012 and mid‐2013". Current data are here:
http://internet.nectec.or.th/webstats/bandwidth.iir?Sec=bandwidth
Year-Month Total International Bandwidth (Mbps)
แบนด์วิดท์ไปต่างประเทศTotal Domestic Bandwidth (Mbps)
แบนด์วิดท์ในประเทศ2020-02 10,988,148 8,126,635
So with a population of ~70 million it currently is actually 0.16 MBps per person.
Plus, only a small fraction of those people will be using "international" bandwidth at any given moment, as well.
Also even if one is accessing a lot of "international" sites, such as youtube, netflix, any European or American news sites, etc., usually these content providers have content replicated in multiple nodes across the globe to increase speed and decrease latency. Probably youtube for example has servers in Thailand caching content.
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2 hours ago, steven100 said:so OP .... the country is protecting it's citizens from contamination and infection.
your country would just let anyone in ... ???
is this reply serious or is it meant as a troll?
it doesnt seem to logically follow from anything.
"would just let anyone in"...the post is not about being let in
"protecting it's [sic] citizens from contamination and infection"... how so? i dont see a logical path to this conclusion
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On 9/4/2016 at 9:57 AM, ocddave said:
Not true, I just got done sending my application and receiving back my Non-Immigrant "O" Visa (Marriage), and I am from Massachusetts, I sent mine to Washington DC. So either I was lucky, or its more a suggestion, not a rule. I liked the forms and structure of their website more than the NY website.
ocddave,
could i ask what the turnaround time was on that visa application? how long after you sent it in did you receive it back?
i am going to apply for a non-imm O family and was a bit spooked by the comment on their webpage that processing time is "minimum 15 business days". i need it fairly soon...
I actually am in the jurisdiction of DC, legitimately, was wondering if i should go ahead and use them or perhaps jurisdiction shop elsewhere.... chicago is saying 5 business days on their website, and LA is saying "usually 2 weeks but lately could be longer".
thanks
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I was going to post about Doritos a month ago.
Living in a town like Rhek Thum, I was excited when I saw a small bag in Tesco Express. I bought it. I ate 'em with lunch.
For the remainder of the afternoon, into the night, I felt anxious as hell, my skin flushed, my head buzzed, my ears rang like someone had pulled off a couple of rounds next to my head.
Couldn't sleep that night. Ears still had ringing the next morning.
I have zero food allergies or sensitivities.
And, hey, with all that, they still tasted like crap.
Never again.
Ouch. Sorry to hear about your experience.
It's true that flavors could vary a bit from region to region I suppose, but these "Doritos" really bear virtually no similarity to the original Doritos in the US, it would be better to just name them something new entirely. Similarities - I was going to say color but even that's not true. The "Nacho cheese" flavor in thailand is kind of a light yellow color rather than a deep orange in the US. Well, they're also triangles, with some sort of cheese based flavoring on them. I guess that's about as far as the similarities go.
Perhaps they could call them something else, and say "Loosely based on the foreign product, Doritos"
I think it's mainly money, not taste, that accounts for the difference. These are made more cheaply so they can be sold more cheaply.
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Yeah, Thai Doritos suck. It's not just the cheese. The corn chip itself tastes wrong. They are cheaping out on that too. Not sure how to describe it, it's not thick or dense enough or something.
Exactly the chips don't have that umph.... they're not crispy enough. They just sort of limply yield to your bite and fragment into sawdust. Real doritos make a loud satisfying crunch after resisting a little.
I think there is less fat in these, too. They taste kind of like a no-crunch, stale cheese, muted taste, low-fat variety. As they say in the restaurant business, fat is flavor.
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I haven't had the nacho cheese flavor ones, but the original flavor ones that are made locally taste OK to me.
All I want is the original flavor. I wish that I could find it somewhere to give them a try.
They're out there. Villa for sure.
Excellent. I live kind of out in the boon docks, outskirts of BKK. But next time I get a chance to go downtown to the sukhumvit area where all the cool kids live, I will definitely seek out Doritos at Villa, etc., priced highter than usual and give them a shot. Would be even better if they were clearly imported with a sticker on them giving info in thai, etc.
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I was delighted recently when I saw they started to sell Doritos in Thailand.
However upon actually buying a bag, they were totally revolting and did not at all resemble Doritos in the rest of the world. What exactly is going on here? I see a bit of an older thread in the Pattaya local forum where people theorize they were modified to better suit Thai taste. I dont think so. I'll bet it's money related.
There was an article in the NY times recently on Doritos, having food scientists explain the various reasons they're so addictive. (I'd like to be addicted, if I could get my hands on proper Doritos). One of the things they mentioned is that the cheese they use is actually quite expensive compared to what is usually used in snack foods. The bags of doritos selling here for 30 baht could go for three times that in the US. My guess is they cheaped out the formula so they could price it more in line with Thai snacks.
How devastatingly disappointing. I'm surprised Doritos is allowing their brand name to be dragged through the mud with these cow chips that are being packaged under the Doritos name here. The native Chachos, while not as good as real Doritos, are better than the thai version of Doritos.
Anyone ever seen real imported bags of the good stuff anywhere? Villa market or whatever?
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I have a friend in the US who is interested in possibly having a book printed up in Thailand. He is a photographer and has put together a book of photographs, so it would have to be printed on glossy paper, high quality color printing, etc.
He has been looking into self-publishing his book in the US and the quotes he has been getting from places that can print up books seem high to him. I am wondering if possibly this could be done cheaper in Thailand than the US.
I think he would want a few thousand copies made in the first printing. About 100 pages or so.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to reputable places in Thailand that might be able to produce a high-quality book at a good price? And is my instinct correct that it may be cheaper to get it done here?
I am in BKK so I could arrange things locally and have the books shipped to me, then I could forward them to him. I guess there would be import duties getting them into the US so would have to take that into account.
Thanks for any advice.
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Well the famous suan lum closed and apparently its successor Siam paradise flopped.... can anyone recommend a place to take friends shopping in a night bazaar type atmosphere?
There's always the patpong area and sukhumvit at night, but too crowded and not really dedicated to shopping.... or are those the best options?
thanks
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I looked on trip advisor, this place seems to have good reviews.... anyone have experience?
www.bangkokdaytours.com
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I have some friends coming in who want to book some tours of the city.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a tour agency that meets the following criteria:
-Does NOT have to be inexpensive. You get what you pay for, usually.
-Reliable, good english, friendly, good experience, etc.....
-All-inclusive.... they shouldnt have to worry about anything. Just walk around, or ride around, etc., with the tour guide and be shown the sights. (It's ok if they pay entry fees themselves, but I just mean, they shouldnt need to have to find their way around anywhere on their own, etc... assume completely lost incompetent foreigner being led around)
The usual touristy stuff - anything is fine. Temples, jim thompson house, etc....
Thanks for any tips. I see lots of places on the internet but I have no idea what they would get if they signed up. Could just be some random half motivated person with poor english skills showing up and hopping in a cab for a 2 hour wait in traffic then saying "Ok tour's over sorry for the trouble."
Well doubt it would be that bad... but who knows.
thanks in advance
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It doesn't matter to the child if the paedophile assailant is 33, 63, or 93.......the child is just as damaged and traumatised.
This guy knew what he was doing, age is no barrier to justice. Also well done to the Thai and Mynamar authorities for pursuing him and bringing him to justice, they need to send out a message loud and clear........the time of predatory paedophiles flying into South East Asia unencumbered is over. The law is waiting for you.
Age is no barrier to being a scumbag, this guy is a 93 year old paedophile scumbag, jail him for the rest of his days. End of.
Yeah just jail him for the rest of his life or hang 'em high based on someone somewhere making an accusation against him. False accusations never occur, such as motivated my money, revenge, extortion, who knows what. We heard a story somewhere that some agency was claiming he did this so we all should chant together "Hang him high! Hang him high! Hang him high!"
All together now
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well this might be an unpopular statement, but havent fares remained the same though oil prices have increased significantly over the years? maybe a rate hike for the taxis would be appropriate and would encourage them to accept business that currently doesnt seem worth it to them?
The price on the meter goes up more quickly than it used to but they should really do with increasing the 35 baht minimum.
London used to be the same. "Won't go south of the river, mate" used to be a common phrase in the days when black cabs were affordable. Now they are simply too expensive to even consider using.
Last time I was in Bangkok, I had several taxis refuse to take me, especially for a short journey during an afternoon downpour. I don't blame them: I wouldn't have wanted to do that ride myself.
Yeah.... from an economics standpoint, supply/demand and so on, when so many of them are refusing transactions at the stipulated price, you have to wonder if the stipulated price is incorrect....
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well this might be an unpopular statement, but havent fares remained the same though oil prices have increased significantly over the years? maybe a rate hike for the taxis would be appropriate and would encourage them to accept business that currently doesnt seem worth it to them?
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hopefully her parents will also ground her and say no facebook for 2 weeks
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Yup, Thailand where businesses like medical make millions on millions
and let there on people die because they cannot afford simple procedures.
Once again this will be the people at the top showing they do not give
two shites about their own people. The bottom line is all they care about ...
and this is different from the west - how?
Not "the west". Just America. The US is the only country in "the west" where there is not universal health care.
Americans often refer to universal health care as "the Canadian system". This is because Americans are aware of the fact that Canada exists. If Americans were aware of other nations as well, universal health care could just as well be referred to as "the French system" or "The Australian system" or "The Japanese system".
Visa amnesty extended to September 30?
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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Thanks that's useful.
See below for the google translation of the relevant text.
It looks like these are minutes of the meeting and not the official royal gazette rules, and hence are not in and of themselves authoritative, but I think we can assume they reflect what will be published.
From this text, it seems the visa extensions will be continued through September 25 (expiring on 26th) so everyone who currently has a legally valid and authorized stay in Thailand as a result of the program that has been commonly referred to with the misnomer "amnesty", will have such legal period of stay extended further until 9/25.
Relevant text is here: (The "period of permission to stay" is being "extended" until 26th september 2020.) Since we have "permission to stay", we do not need "amnesty" from the immigration laws.
"2. To extend the period of permission to stay in the Kingdom under Section 35 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (including under the Petroleum Act 1971 and the amendment of the Investment Promotion Act 1977 And as amended And the Industrial Estate Authority of Thailand Act B.E. 2522 (1979) and as amended) or according to the relevant Ministry of Interior Notification under Article 2 (1) of the Notification of the Ministry of Interior, regarding special permission to allow certain classes of aliens to be dated April 7, 2020, as amended by the announcement of the Ministry of Interior regarding special permits for certain class of aliens to stay in the Kingdom (Issue 2) dated April 23, 2020, from 1st August 2020 to 26th September 2020"
The other option that had been under consideration was not actually extending the stay permissions, but rather having the stay authorizations expire on 7/31 (eg, legally you are supposed to be gone), but not enforcing this during a period of time, so as to allow people who genuinely were just not able to go home before 7/31 due to COVID could be free from prosecution, and could apply for an exemption during this "grace period". If this had occurred, the situation would have involved an actual amnesty period for people who stayed beyond before their stay authorization expired on 7/31. That could have led to confusion in the english language discussion about the topic because the news would be that people with stays expiring on 7/31 are supposed to leave by 7/31, but there will be an amnesty period if they are not able to leave on time. This would prompt many to conclude the situation was unchanged compared to pre-7/31 since the situation up to 7/31 has been referred to commonly as an "amnesty" and there also will be an amnesty period after 7/31. The clarification would then have been needed that the period of time would be an actual amnesty, as in a period of non-prosecution of the offense of overstaying, and not a not-really-amnesty amnesty such as the current period of time.