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16 hours ago, laislica said:

 

Glad you got it sorted.

May I suggest that although the antibiotic killed off the bacteria causing the infection, it also killed off many other "good" bacteria that your body needs for optimal health.

So after a course of antibiotics it may be important to rebuild the good bacteria in your gut.

Google can help you learn how to do this.

 

Here is some info that I have gathered from the internet and I pass it on to give you a start.....

 

How does it work - An apple a day keeps the doctor away and Chicken Soup? 

The key to best health is the diversity of your microbiome, and the diversity of your good bacteria, unfortunately, antibiotics kill them all but you cannot live without the good ones!

 

Overview:

 

After taking Antibiotics: or How to avoid Colon Cancer!

 

1)     AVOID INFLAMMATORY FOODS.

 

2)     REBUILD GOOD BACTERIA by eating:

 

a)     Apple sauce with raisins and turmeric;

 

    Chicken bone broth with turmeric;

 

c)     Vegetables and

 

d)    Fermented vegetables. (See below for details)

 

 

 

Did you try natural antibiotics such as Garlic, Colloidal silver, Oil of Oregano, Echinacea and Manuka Honey, the natural antibiotics are usually not as strong and take longer to work.

 

(Garlic and Turmeric could be part of your regular diet.)

 

(Turmeric: natural Anti-inflammatory – as good as or better than many Pharmaceutical drugs)

 

 

 

1)            AVOID INFLAMMATORY FOODS
particularly wheat, dairy, sugar and fried food for at least 10 days to a month. Even though you may feel better after 10 days it takes much longer to fully rebuild your immune system. Remember that 70% of your immune system is totally reliant on this good balance of bacteria.

 

There are studies showing young children under five, taking antibiotics has an impact on the level of their overall health as they get older. Rebuilding good bacteria avoids children getting asthma or recurring ear infections et cetera. The more antibiotics they have early in life, the more vulnerable they are to illness later on.

 

2)      BUILD UP THE GOOD BACTERIA.

 

a)         Apple sauce.

 

Take four apples and wash them, do not peel them – the pectin is just under the skin.

 

Dice them into half inch pieces and put them into a saucepan, add a handful of raisins and plenty of cinnamon. Add a little water up to about one third of the apples.

 

Turn on the heat and simmer for about 8 to 10 minutes.
When the skins start to get a little shine on them, they are ready to be eaten. The shine is actually the pectin, the cooking has released it and made it instantly available for the good bacteria to feed on and then they are able to help to heal your gut very quickly.

 

Uncooked, apples are hard to digest and you would not get the full benefit from them quickly.

 

I recommend that you eat about 6 to 10 spoonfuls of this applesauce twice a day for a week and then maybe once every few days for the rest of the month to help to properly heal a leaky gut.

 

(I always heard that apple a day keeps the doctor away and now I know why.)

 

(Now learn why Grandma always made chicken soup for sick people)

 

      Chicken Bone Broth with Turmeric.

 

The collagen in chicken bone broth acts as a natural prebiotic, meaning it feeds the good bacteria and helps seal a leaky gut which was damaged by the antibiotic.

 

Without the good bacteria the lining of the gut allows larger molecules to pass into the bloodstream which attach themselves to organ cells like the Brain, Heart, Liver etc. and your autoimmune system sets up antibodies to attack and kill these unwanted macro molecules but in the process, they kill organ cells as well, this is where autoimmune diseases come from.

 

Turmeric is probably the most potent of all natural anti-inflammatories, and tastes great!

 

c)       Vegetables. (Organic and non-GMO if possible, if not use what you can get).

 

There is a substance made in your gut called butyrate or butyric acid.

 

Your whole body is renewed every seven years some cells are replaced very quickly, like the lining of your gut, it only takes 3 to 7 days for the gut to be completely replaced. 
The fuel to build the new gut cells is butyrate, or butyric acid and if your body does not make enough, you are more vulnerable to COLON CANCER.

 

There are two categories of vegetable fibre, soluble and insoluble and it is the insoluble fibre that the good bacteria use to make the butyrate. You need to eat a lot of vegetables.

 

Prebiotic's, such as the root vegetables, sweet potatoes, turnips, parsnips, beets, artichoke hearts, carrots, bananas et cetera.

 

Mixed vegetables are sautéed in a little coconut oil or olive oil with garlic and eaten with every meal.

 

You could add green leafy vegetables like the cruciferous family which are very anti-carcinogenic.

 

You can add any and all vegetables, the more the better.

 

If some of the vegetables taste a little bitter the cure is to have a mixture of many vegetables and add some turmeric, you will not taste the bitterness and you will also help to reduce inflammation.

 

d)      Fermented Vegetables.

 

They must not be pasteurised, because this kills bacteria and you need the bacteria. That's why you're buying fermented vegetables! (I was angry that Lidl Sauerkraut was pasteurised!)

 

Eat as many different kinds of fermented vegetables as possible, because they all have different families of good bacteria. If you can, buy five or more different kinds to keep in the fridge, you can eat just a fork full of any of those vegetables randomly during the day.

 

If you just take a supplement that has Lactobacillus acidophilus, while that is not bad, we now know that it is diversity that you need because they all interplay to form your army.

 

You cannot just have all privates in the army, there must be some sergeants to organise the privates.

 

There have to be lieutenants to coordinate sergeants and so on.

 

That's what the different families of bacteria do, that's why you need the variety and the diversity of bacteria.

 

Together, they keep the bad bacteria in check!

 

 

 

Background:

 

Antibiotics, what they do and what can we do about what they do.

 

The key to optimal health is the diversity of your microbiome, and the diversity of your good bacteria.

 

Humans are a collection of cells, for each of your own body cells there will be 10 bacteria cells.

 

Many of the nutrients that your body needs are created by the various bacteria in your gut.

 

Without good bacteria you will become sick and die.

 

There will always be some bad bacteria present but as long as there are sufficient numbers of the good bacteria the bad colonies will be restricted in size and in the damage they can do.

 

Encouraging good bacteria and controlling bad bacteria is done by the foods you choose to eat and drink.

 

Many foods do the opposite of what is good for optimal health, they encourage the bad and restrict the good and damage your hormones and gene expression.

 

Probiotic is a technical name for the good bacteria.

 

Prebiotic's are the foods that encourage the growth of the good bacteria.

 

Antibiotics kill bacteria, that is their job.

 

Sometimes you need an antibiotic and although we should try to use more natural antibiotics such as Garlic, Colloidal silver, Oil Of Oregano, Echinacea and Manuka Honey, the natural antibiotics are usually not as strong and take longer to work.

 

When you use pharmaceutical antibiotics, they make a dramatic impact to your overall health.

 

By killing all the bacteria, bad and good, you have hopefully cured your illness.

 

Unfortunately most pharmaceutical antibiotics are not selective and “nuke” both good and bad bacteria.

 

Now you must really pay attention to the recolonisation of your gut with good bacteria as quickly as possible.

 

There are long-term studies, that show that, six months to a year or even two years later, the microbiome had not returned to a healthy balance of bacteria.

 

Your good bacteria is the main protection against every assault by bad bacteria.

 

Each assault is screened by the good bacteria, so a strong army should be there to protect you.

 

You are what you eat!

 

If you are gluten sensitive you must avoid all products containing wheat forever!

 

Do not be tempted to eat even a tiny portion, like Birthday Cake!

 

Just a tiny amount is all that is needed to re awaken your immune system and stimulate any immune diseases that you have been trying so hard for so long to get rid of!

 

All things in moderation is total BS in this case!

 

Do some research also on Vitamin C and Vitamin D3!

 

There is a lot more that I could tell you but I am trying to keep it simple and I honestly believe that it is better that anyone interested in this, find out for themselves.

There are too many fad diets about.....

 

 

 

Well - you are certainly right about what kind of foods to eat and what not to eat. Theres way too much sugar and fat and easy absorbable carbs etc in many peoples diet. 

And its right that antibiotics also kills "good" bacterias in your bodies, especially in our stomach/gastrointestinal tract - thats why many persons taking antibiotics get diarrhea. But in most cases good bacterias will come back after one stop using antibiotics, so its not that bad.

I still prefer to use antibiotics when actually having a real infection that threatens my health. 

But if one can avoid the use of antibiotics thats the best of course. 

The last time I had this I was actually in Indonesia and after being ill for around  9-10 days I got this antibiotics and I responded immediately to them. So thats my choice after all. 

17 hours ago, Bonefish said:

I had a friend in Florida (68 yo) who got walking pneumonia. Went to see the hospital and got a prescription for an antibiotic to be taken for one full week. After 2 or 3 days his symptoms disappeared and he stopped taking the antibiotic. A week later he was dead, the bacteria had come back full force and taken over his entire body (sepsis).

It was a tragic end to your friend. Very sorry to hear that.

But that shows us that walking pneumonia/atypical pneumonia should certainly be taken seriously as it can get very serious and give sepsis. Which again very often are deadly unless treated correctly in time.

16 hours ago, Rajab Al Zarahni said:

So the moral of the story is that even if you are a qualified nurse it would be most unwise to take non- prescribed antibiotics from your employers pharmacy and indulge in a process of trial and error treatment. Firstly, the treatment might not work, secondly you will probably extend the duration of your infection and thirdly, you will have contributed to the overall problem of antibiotic resistance through your misuse. I wonder if you have also considered that your employer might take a dim view of a nurse dipping into the pharmacy store to treat him/herself.

The moral of the story is quite obvious for those who have the slightest interest in it. For others whos only intention is to get rid of their piss somewhere on the www it might be different though.

The moral of the story is that a long lasting episode of what most people think is flu or cold in Thailand (or elsewhere) actually can be an atypical pneumonia/walking pneumonia - that can be treated with the right anibiotics. 

I could of course have bought any kinds of antibiotics in Thailand as they are sold over the counter en mass everywhere. But I didnt - I travelled home and worked a week with this disease in my body after having had it already 2-3 weeks in Thailand. And it was me that came up with the idea of an atypical pneumonia for my GP as he initially wanted to treat me with general antibiotics. 

I have also had many of these really long lasting colds/flus while travelling and staying in Thailand and other asian countries. It stuck with me often for 2-3 weeks. Although not very sick, just a bit of cough (could be quite bad cough actually) and "tight chest" and a bit of general not wellbeing feel, fatigue etc - still not very bad. And I thought it was nothing to be done other than symptomatical treatments as of cough, fever etc.

But at one stage I got so stuck with one of these - what I belived was colds/flus and the sickness just didnt go away even one week after I had returned home. And since Im a nurse myself and have access to medicines in my job I had treated myself with general antibiotics (benzylpenicillin) but with no cure for my illness - so I went to my GP and I had also done some research myself. And I explained my case to the GP and told him from my research this could be an infection caused by what is called atypical bacterias - the mycoplasma pneumoniae - and that gives whats called an atypical pneumonia also called walking pneumonia in english I belive. It has lighter symptoms than other pneumonias and you often think its a cold or a flu and even goes to work with it. And the GP agreed with me and said that seems very true.

So I was given the right antibiotics  - which is Erytromycin or Doxycillin and I got better in 1-2 days and 100 % well after 3-4 days.

And after that - if I get something similar cold/flu symptoms thats lasts more than a week and I cough a lot and have a general fatigue etc I have been getting and taking those right antibiotics - and wham-bang better in no time.

So if you get cold/flu symptoms thats lasts long and gives you bad cough, fatigue, sore throat, tight chest etc - consider that it can be a atypical pneumonia/walking pneumonia and see a doctor and tell him that. The right antibiotics will cure it very quickly.

I have got atypical pneumonia in Thailand and other asian countries several times and never back home in Europe so I think the mycoplasma pneumonia is more common in Asia.

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/walking-pneumonia

22 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The average life expectancy of an Australian male is 82.

She is obviously good at mathematics !

And by doing all his basic daily physical cores for his such as dress and undress him she knows his health will decay much faster than if he had tondo it himself.

Shes not only good at maths but also into physics as well.... ;-)

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Fly or drive to Pai?

No brainer FLY,  i used to drive that route, roads are a nightmare.

Nightmare?

The roads in northern Thailand and especially the socalled Mae Hong Son loop which the Chiang Mai - Pai is a part of is considered world class roads. Its curvy, full of mountains, valleys, rivers etc and with many interesting spots and extremely scenic.

With your own vehicle you can go when you want and stop when and where you want. And you could do the whole Mae Hong Son loop as well, Doi Inthanon, Mae Sariang etc etc.

Faster to fly? You need to get to the airport from somewhere in Chiang Mai, it might take 15-20 minutes, you have to be at the airport 1,5-2 hours before the flight to go through security and check in procedures. Then fly, wait for luggage, transport into Pai. Faster? Dont think so at all....

The only thing that could be better with flying is as somebody mentioned - if the baby get motion sickness. Thats not a good thing to let your baby go through. 

So thats a healthy advice from others above here...

43 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Farang against Thai bank? Would love to see the outcome.

 

"A Lampang woman" the article says and as far as I know Lampang is still a province of northern Thailand, not the more infamous Farangland.

20 hours ago, chrissables said:

I think it was filmed not far from there. China beach maybe. I will google it later.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

"Apocalypse now"' was filmed in The Philippines - so definetively not there... ;-)

Anyhow - thanks a lot for sharing this nice roadtrip with us. Fantastic and enjoyable story and photos.

May I ask how much the cost of the bike was? And how is the general price level in Vietnam compared to Thailand?

How to get a 90 day visa to Vietnam?

And they still have a former Khmer Rouge officer as they prime minister with his own private army. What a really terrible joke it is....

So its not a vehicle ferry?

It would have been great to avoide the Bangkok hazzle going from Pattaya area to south or opposite...

"BANGKOK: -- Thailand is entering the cold season as of October 30 and the cold weather will last longer than it was in the past few years"

Its a bit early to tell how long the cold season will last the 1th of November, isnt it?

Whish I could be there "the cood season" - its the only time its liveable in Thailand as far as I see it...

Just make sure that she buy you a Ferrari first....

18 minutes ago, thenewgoo said:

I just don't see how the bus could have avoided that poor elephant (video). We can rant on about Thai driving all we want but given the critical injuries the driver sustained, he did bloody well to pull that bus up safely. That could easily have been a much bigger tragedy. Let's hope he recovers soon.

Well - by reducing speed you can stop much quicker. Im quite sure that in this highway service area the speed limits are max 60 km/h if not lower. The bus was travelling much faster than that.... emergency indicators on and full throttle up the relatively steep and at partly very winding roads over the Khun Tarn area in complete darkness - thats the way most buses do it but it doesnt mean its legal or right...

The area has also many traffic warning signs of elephants.

Sala Keow Ku sculptur park - Nong Khai, Nong Khai Province January 2016

Corn House - Chiang Rai Province -January 2015

Sunset at Koh Phayam -  Ranong Province december 2014

Sukhotai historical park - Sukhotai Province - Mai 2015

7 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

 

I am still trying to figure out what you even mean.

Nevermind - youre nor up to it anyhow...

5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

 

Duh..........and you are from ??

Im from a place with some sivilasation - and you?

7 hours ago, MissAndry said:

 

Having sex is not generally considered dangerous for a female, running about, at night, in the jungle would be considered dangerous by many.

And whats your point? Is it more dangerous for female than for male to go forba hike and if you happen to mean so - why?

1 hour ago, lvr181 said:

 

Should not have to be so but it is a fact of life. What planet are you from?  The world is not Utopia!

So who is making it dangerous for females then? Maybe think about that for a while?

50 minutes ago, fatyank said:

Very dangerous for females to go hiking alone or even in pairs

Why is dangerous for females?

I flew in from Australia less than a month ago with no visa and on a one way ticket. And at the check in counter in Sydney airport the person who checked me in asked and demanded a ticket out of the country. I have done my homework so I had made a booking out of Thailand within a month after my arrival so all good. When arriving in Thailand nobody asked to see any tickets or booking out of the country. 

22 hours ago, TacoGuy said:

Also quite a few humour-deficient over serious farangs around, it's surprising they manage in light-hearted Thailand...

And your opinions and thoughts about OPs questions are what?

Humour are great when it can be considered humour, nonsense are always nonsense. 

4 hours ago, mysticpaki said:

Its quite a piss off when a serious question gets some corney answers like central world.

Brewster unfortunately I don't live in Thailand yet but have travelled a lot and one of the prettiest places in the north was Mae Hong son. Changmai now is too polluted and the smoke in some months is terrible.Changrai somehow I didn't like too much.

Ive heard nice things about Petchburi and Loei too.

If you are fond of the sea then I recommend you a place few know called Khanom very picturesque nice breeze all the time cool nights nice people but ofcourse its south so its hot.

U fly to Nakhon Si Thammerat and then take the van from there. Its a very small town with great food. Nearest shopping mall is Nakhon Si Thammerat or Surat Thani.

Another favourite of mine is Trang clean nice city overflowing with waterfalls.

Keep in touch

Cheers

Agree with the first you say. But there are always trolls wandering around. Just dont feed them....

When it comes to places worth staying I do think Chonburi and Rayong has the most stabile climates, short rainy seasons and not amongst the hottest places during the hot season. 

Most of the north and the northeast are similar to what the OP describes - dusty and extremely hot during the hot season and most of the rainy season too as long as its not raining. It was 39 degrees in Chiang Rai a few days ago.

The exceptions are of course if youre a bit above sea level, then the tempratures will be lower. In the chang wats of Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phayao, Nan, Uttaradit, Loei and Petchabun (not Petchaburi) and other there are a good bit of mountains and thus some areas that are better.

There are probably good areas in the south near the sea where you often have a cooling breeze easing you a bit - but then again the most of the south have longer rainy seasons. And the south is not as hot as the north and the northeast.