josemanuel

to let people that vapes in other countries visit the country and avoid smoking? to give an alternative to thai smokers much more healthy than tobacco? moreover, vaping is not stupid, much more stupid, in terms of health issues, is drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes

people do not read ... that is a fact, but they can state as facts any payed headline ... this is how the world runs nowadays ... too sad

yes, stupid people do stupid things all over the world ... phones and laptops do explode also, it is a problem with lithium batteries, no matter what device they are used into, this has nothing to do with vaping

have you read carefully the studies posted? I have done with #48, it uses 10 young adults, not used to vaping and puts them in an acute exposure (their words not mine), the results are some reaction, very variable, there are subjects with nearly no reaction, and only one with an acute one, parameters rise 2 hours after vaping, and disappear 4 hours later another important bias in the study is in the way the make them puff, they have to restrain from taking air from their nose while vaping, I do vape daily, and I always inhale with both my mouth and nose ... so the vaping situation monitored is forced, not real of course the body reacts in several ways when you introduce external elements inside, but the study does not show any harm in the subjects, and what is more important, the effect of inhalation dissapears quickly if companies had so much interest in demonstrating the lethal actual and real effects of alcohol ingestion, probably it would be banned in the whole world ... but no, it won't happen, there are drugs and behaviours admited by capitalism, and others that endanger their profits are not ... OMG, editing again, the supposed 4 studies linked at the bottom of you message quoted here are only one ... the 4 links numbered differently direct to the exact same paper I am talking about .... another strategy of spreading lies about vaping, you put 4 links supposed to be 4 studies that nearly nobody ever reads or even open, and it is only one prepared and biased experiment forced to produce some results that people get as conclusive and scientific facts ... so powerful is the fight of traditional tobacco industry against something that can kill their business and your conclusion that "it is very unhealthy and causes many kind of health problems" has nothing to do with what the only study says, zero proof provided of the unhealthiness of vaping in your links, as usual, just cheap propaganda sponsored by whoever may have payed for the forced study these are their conclusions "These findings suggest that even in the absence of nicotine, acute e-cig aerosol inhalation leads to a transient increase in oxidative stress and inflammation. This can adversely affect the vascular endothelial network by promoting oxidative stress and immune cell adhesion. Thus e-cig inhalation has the potential to drive the onset of vascular pathologies." suggest ... transient ... this can affect ... has the potential ... all expresions are speculative, not factual please, do not spread lies, be more critical with what they make you think about everything, we have to many of that everywhere

I got urges to smoke when I was vaping with no nicotine (nearly 2 years) then I decided to go back to nicotine, and 3 years later no urge at all, I vape 2 mililitres per day in a pod system, maybe you should try it if you are tempted to smoke again. And as I already said, when I started vaping I had no intention at all to quit smoking, but I did it because vaping is more satisfying, clean and healthy to me and to everyone around me.

OMG ... this is quoted from the link provided; "with vaping, we simply don’t know the short- or long-term effects yet and which e-cigarette components are to blame" if your link states we do NOT know, how you do convert it in actual deaths? nobody has ever died in the whole world for vaping vaping products, show me just one case, please

no, there is no real evidence about producing any kind of health issues, I have been revising through years all kind of scientific literature about it, you can find many news in the media about it, but not one real scientific fact

nobody talks about incense smoke, it is so much more harmful to people than vaping vapour, moreover I do use pods, they produce so little vapour I can use it without nobody getting any of my vapour, first or second use and about smelling bad ... well there are a lot of bad smells in every places of the world, Thailand included

I am 64, been a smoker since my early teens, on may 2016, I started using vaping devices, first for fun, but in weeks I quit smoking, i did not intend to, but it was more satisfying to me, before that date and since 2008 I spent one or two months in thailand on vacation with my partner, since I started vaping we never came back there ... switched to other asian countries instead. I will not enter Thailand again while actual laws about vaping don't change drastically, because I would have to use tobacco again, after more than 5 years away from it, it is ridiculous, maybe this has something to do with the proposal. Actual law may put you in jail waiting for trial if found in posession of just one vape device even if not using it. It is forbiden to import the devices, not the use of them, but we all know how thai police works, you can read a lot of really nasty experiences about having a vaping devices and their work. So, I totally agree with the proposition. About health and vaping, not one person has been reported dead or seriously ill because of vaping, you won't find a single real case, people dying in USA were vaping other adultered drugs in their devices, it has nothing to do with actual vaping liquids. Meanwhile NHS are prescribing Pfizer ´Champix, a product that has caused deads, even in the prospect it talks about depression and posible suicide as secondary effects after they actually happened. Fortunately this product has also cancerigen substances, and a few weeks ago it was completely retired from the market. As for passive vaping persons, there has been some studies made, and it has not proved to be harmfull in any way to people around, wich is no surprise, as no vaping people has been rightfully diagnosed of health issues because of vaping. Nicotine is adictive, yes, it is, but it is also harmless in the quantities used by vapers, Again not a single study has proved any medical condition related with nicotine use in these ammounts. So I think it is a movement in the righ direction, something that will have no cost, apart from the lost of taxes from ex smokers, and will put thailand again in the spot of the millions of vapers around the world that need vaping to avoid smoking, as I do.