ThailandPermanent

Just got told today that I'll need to do the test as I graduated from the PGCEi past 2019 That really is a kick in the teeth. I chose Nottingham due to it being accepted for so many years

What's the chance that Thailand bans travel from the UK, given the surge in omicron? (Crystal ball stuff, but perhaps there was some hinting from the TAT/government...wishful thinking though) I'm desperate to spend Christmas in the UK with my aging parents, but have to also think about what happens if I get stranded there

My plan is to go to the UK for Christmas then jump back into Thailand I know it's crystal ball stuff. But honest guess at the chance Thailand panics and bans travel from the UK? Absolutely cannot risk getting stranded in the UK. This is giving me such anxiety

Has anyone recently flown into Phuket domestically that isn't fully jabbed (yet)? For the record, I get my 2nd Pfizer on the 8th. I fly to Phuket on the 9th. I will take a PCR test 48 hours before the flight, as I believe you need to wait 14 days to be considered protected by the vaccine. Current updated requirements say I'll be OK if I have that PCR test. But you know how it is. It's Thailand and I'm worried I'll arrive in Phuket airport and will be turned around. (Sorry if this is hijacking. I don't want to fill up the forum with a new thread for a reasonably similar question)

Do they give out the paper certificate after the second dose? Bit worried. Really need piece of mind in having that for my school And thank you to all here. Managed to get Pfizer thanks to you guys bringing this to my attention

OK but can you actually provide some papers showing data to support this? Again, I'm taking the vaccine next month, and would have sooner but had to wait for my age group's turn. So, it's not as if I'm one of these people constantly linking to VAERS and Mike Yeadon. I'm actually genuinely interested in reading up on this, but this is typically the response I get when I try to look for data/papers/numbers on it.

I think the vaccine is great as it's absolutely saved 100,000s/millions of lives I'm also getting my first jab next week. However, do you guys not think the "preventing onward transmission" thing is a bit overstated and being used to bully people a bit? I'm not convinced it's such a massive variable as some are making out (whereas taking the vaccine is massive for protecting the taker). Recent study is interesting on this: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264260v1.full.pdf "Transmission reductions declined over time since second vaccination, for Delta reaching 42 similar levels to unvaccinated individuals by 12 weeks for ChAdOx1 and attenuating 43 substantially for BNT162b2." Genuine thoughts?

Do you reckon it'll stay that way come next year though, what with the vaccine push etc?

What time between AZ doses do BHP at Central Festival do currently? 8 weeks or 12?

Some balance from me (so double the flaming to come? haha) I'd give myself a 5/10 on the scale of vaccine hesitancy. Basically "Meh, alright then. It's not like it's dangerous. I'm waiting for AZ though". I'm getting the vaccine next week. Waited until AZ was available for my age group. Probably would have done Pfizer or Moderna at a push, but can't be bothered waiting that long. I won't call people antivaxxers, that's incredibly lazy, and I get that a chunk of people here are more anti-mandate as opposed to thinking the vaccine is dangerous. However, some of the NoCOVIDVaxxers here are becoming what they hate. They are living a life utterly consumed by all of this, from morning to night. While I have huge sympathies in opposing the mandates, you may be on a path to Pyrrhic victory: no visa, no job, no nice Thailand life. Are you OK with that? do you have a backup option that's workable that you like? Not saying it's right (it's not in my opinion), but that's how it's looking. Only you lose out in that situation sadly, and you will have a horrible time finding an education job elsewhere. (The guy who posted about China. You need 2 x Sinovac/Sinopharm to get in. They will not let you in unvaxxed. No chance). Again, not saying that's right, but you have to see the trajectory of this whole thing. After 18 months of all this, they likely aren't going to just leave you alone, especially in this sector. Likely the decision will be made from the very top, i.e the MOE/immigration. "Well I'll wait until that's likely to happen". That's fine, but only if it's actually fine for you. Again, are you truly 100% happy gambling all of this over this principle? Do you have a workable backup option in place? Only you can truly answer that deep down. However, on the other side of this: I really am perplexed by just how much people care about the vaccination status of the teacher. Some of the arguments are becoming as hysterical as some of the die-in-the-wool NoCOVIDVaxxers. The chance of hospitalisation from COVID for a young person really is incredibly low. It's so low, that it's potentially in the same ballpark of vaccine side effects (which are laughably low, as you'd agree.... right?) [Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study] Even then, the students are likely to have had vaccines offered to them before returning to class, with their parents/grandparents fully jabbed. Plus mask-wearing will still be a rule in the school, along with some distancing measures and maybe even face shields again. Huge precautions will have been taken, so I'm perplexed why some are so absolutely terrified of perhaps three teachers not having had the jab. There'll be around 15% of students in the room who won't have had it either, too. Perhaps up to 100% if you go towards a younger age group. But yeah, back to the NoCOVIDVaxxers. Shools/MOE/Immigration will not care even if the above has some logic to it, and the principle sucks Make your choice Also guys. Good rule in life: when someone does/says something that irritates you. Start off by thinking of three reasons why that person might have done it, that could be explained through good intentions (that may have not resulted). Just a better way to live life, then constantly thinking everyone is terrible Anyway, have a nice day. Will probably come back to both sides being irritated.

I really appreciate this. Thank you so much

Thank you very much Putting my mind at rest

Complete newbie/dummy here. Just need a bit of closure from the people here who've done the process already I'm going to Central Festival for my first AZ jab (with Bangkok Hospital Pattaya) on the 22nd October - How likely is it that the operation will still be going in December when it's second dose time? (maybe a crystal ball question) - Will the second one definitely be AZ? (I know it says clearly on the graphic, but I know how things can sometimes work here so I'm a bit jittery) I just personally don't want to mix vaccines

Is it open 24 hours? My flight time would mean I show up about 04:00 I'm just paranoid I'll get there and it'll be empty lol

Thank you for letting me know this!