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1 hour ago, riclag said:

 

  “Americans can now confidently vote by mail and have their voices heard.”

Americans can now feel confident ,while both parties are lawyering  up!

"The bottom line: Legal disputes over results are less likely to succeed in any states with landslides — but any close election contests will almost certainly be litigated".

https://www.axios.com/2020-election-lawsuits-de329dcc-97d1-46e9-9a9d-11197fd1e6a9.html

 

When and if it comes time,I just hope my team's lawyers  are better than theirs !

One thing is certain voting by a  mass mail in, on a large scale certainly has challenges and  controversy according to reports!

"The coronavirus created once-in-a-generation challenges for how elections are run, so officials across the country have rushed to implement new policies and scale up mail-in voting".

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/absentee-voting-election-problems/index.html

What could possibly go wrong imop

 

 

And in order to make sure it goes wrong, nothing's better than cutting postal office funding and reducing its processing capacity!  ????

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

Oh ya!  You seem confused! Sad! You need to go back and read the story ,by reuters! Nice try! 

 

"Wray's testimony follows an Aug. 7 warning by the director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center that Russia, China and Iran were all trying to interfere in the Nov. 3 election".

So let's wait for his testimony about China's interference in the election.

7 hours ago, riclag said:

"The greatest long-term threat to our nation’s information and intellectual property, and to our economic vitality, is the counterintelligence and economic espionage threat from China. It’s a threat to our economic security—and by extension, to our national security".

https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/the-threat-posed-by-the-chinese-government-and-the-chinese-communist-party-to-the-economic-and-national-security-of-the-united-states

Thanks for confirming that what Wray said about China was true. So I guess what he said about Russia must be true, too?

8 minutes ago, vogie said:

Only time will tell, the EU is like a cult, the UK has led the way and now other nations can see that it is possible for a country to escape the dysfunctual EU, you just need bottle. You have only to mention anything negative about the EU and its members are like ants trying to stop an invader into their nest, 'it's not true, we love Ursula' kill intruder, kill intruder.

 

Brexiters accusing the EU of being like a cult, lol!

Only time will tell, you are right. However, up to now, Brexit had a rather deterring effect on the idea  of leaving, as people were becoming more aware of the real consequences of exiting.

19 minutes ago, Smigel said:

I beg to differ, both Biden and Pelosi labelled Trumps ban on travel from China and slightly later the EU, xenophobic. 

Pelosi openly encouraged travel to Chinatown, proclaiming it perfectly safe to do so. 

Why are you openly lying.? 

Your claim is not backed by anything. Show us a quote by Biden and Pelosi mentioning the CHINA travel ban. There is none. Good luck if you want to try.

(The reason I write CHINA is because they did call him racist or xenophobic several times about immigration issues, I.e. the so-called Muslim bans -the latest was announced on Jan.31)

As to Pelosi going to Chinatown, as I wrote before, it was not to protest against Trumps decision, it was, as you yourself state, to show it was safe to do so. As you know, in Chinatown, most inhabitants are US citizen, and voters too. People were afraid to go there, shops and restaurants were empty. Nothing surprising for a political figure to try to help her electorate.

Who's lying? Trump, by claiming he courageously made his decision among widespread opposition. There was no particular opposition to it and plenty of other countries made the same decision at the same time or even before.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The EU encouraging others to open up markets? That's rich coming the protectionist racket that is the EU. Their reison d'être IS the single market.????

 

Also interesting that they can do a billion Euros a day trade with China without a trade deal. Yet they expect the UK to hand over sovereignty and fishing waters for a substandard FTA to buy their goods.

 

Also accusing China of breaking global trade rules when their own states cannot even follow EU treaties and the EU themselves break their own rules on state aid when it comes to bailing out failing Italian banks and Airbus.????

 

 

The EU, the hub of hypocrisy. 

The usual Brexiters' fake claim. The level of EU protectionism is currently similar to that of other developped countries. (Plus plenty of FTAs and similar agreements already signed or under negotiation.)

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

17 minutes ago, Poet said:

The EU never did anything about China, not even after Tiananmen. The only reason they are saying anything now is because the US made it an issue, but they are not actually threatening to do anything.
 

 

After World War II, the US kickstarted the reconstruction of Europe with the Marshall Plan, pumping $12 billion into Europe ($129 billion in today's money) and saving the continent from decades of economic depression.

Since 1949 they have spent billions every year on NATO, the whole purpose of which was to hold Western Europe together and protect it from a massive hostile neighbor.

The US was also the main supporter and sponsor of the progenitors of today's EU.

It shocks me that people have such wild views based purely on whatever opinions are currently fashionable (this year all the cool kids hate America) but so little awareness of how their own societies came into being and who helped them to get there.

 

What you claim in the first paragraph is not true (both sentences).

What you state after that is true. However, the current US administration is not particularly pro-EU.

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Treasure island. Wow thanks for that. Its the best laugh I've had in a while.

OK so apart from Japan, which by the way is not ratified yet, which major trading blocks or countries do we have a FTA with? Why yes. Its zero. And as for the much vaunted Japan deal. According to the FT its a far better deal for Japan than it is for us. Trade with Japan accounts for a mighty 2% of our exports.

 

The article also states.

https://www.ft.com/content/edb7d155-56b4-4065-9f83-31b2247fa178

"The UK’s new trade deal with Japan commits it to tougher restrictions on state aid than the ones it is currently offering the EU in the Brexit talks, potentially undermining its negotiating position with Brussels. In the bilateral UK-Japan agreement announced in principle on Friday, London and Tokyo have agreed to replicate the restrictions on subsidies in the EU-Japan deal that went into effect last year. That agreement prohibits the governments from indefinitely guaranteeing the debts of struggling companies or providing an open-ended bailout without a clear restructuring plan in place. By contrast, the UK has repeatedly told the EU that it must have total freedom over state aid after the end of the Brexit transition period with complete autonomy over future subsidy decisions, subject to WTO rules."

 

What was that you were saying about sovereignty? ????

 

 

So come January we will be trading with almost everyone on WTO terms. That means tariffs. More importantly it means tariffs on goods to and from the EU. Our biggest trading partner. Do you think companies in the UK can find new markets overnight?

While part of the EU we were already trading globally. So any opportunities to sell British goods anywhere was already being done. 

 

Hey we could very well have gotten more out of the corona bail out fund than we put in given our economy has been the hardest hit in the EU. 

 

If you think for a second American healthcare was going to stop at just selling medication then you are deluded mate. Trump said as much. Everything is up for grabs. 

 

For the EU the difference between us, Canada, the USA, South Korea etc is the amount of trade done. What the Torys dream of is turning the UK into a cheap labour paradise with little or no workers rights.

 

My point about sovereignty obviously went right over your head. You point to it like its some kind of holly grail for doing Brexit. I dont think any of you have a clue as to what sovereignty actually means. Its just a buzz word you guys throw around. 

 

Enjoy your Polish made passport ????. 

Brilliant! UK abdicating its sovereignty to the Land of the Rising Sun.

To the Krauts, never! But to the Japs, ok! ????

Happy memories! ????

'Fantastic moment': Boris Johnson signs Brexit withdrawal deal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/24/sombre-eu-leaders-sign-brexit-withdrawal-agreement

3 minutes ago, Poet said:

 

Seriously, you don't remember Pelosi dramatic appearance in Chinatown to protest his decision, and inviting everyone in San Francisco to come join her?

I'm pretty sure Biden called it racist too, because that was the Democrat line at that time, around the end of February. Fairly standard rhetoric in these times.

Trump can be criticized for plenty of things, include later aspects of the covid response, why pick on something he happened to get right?


 

Pelosi did not go to Chinatown to protest his decision. She went there because people were afraid to go there although there was no coronavirus in Chinatown at that time. Pelosi and Biden called Trump a racist many times over the years, in particular because of his statements about immigrants and the so-called Muslim travel bans (including the last one on Jan. 31). As I wrote before, if you want to find a quote mentioning the CHINA travel ban, good luck to you!

Trump was right to implement travel restrictions, but his claim that he courageously decided it against the opinion of everyone else is false. There was no particular opposition to it in the US, and around 50 other countries implemented a travel ban at about the same time or before

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 It wasn't your so called Remainer Parliament which signed the withdrawal agreement on the 24th January 2020; it was Johnson with his 50 seat majority!

 

It wasn't your so called Remainer Parliament which went into the last GE saying they had an oven ready deal with the EU; it was Johnson.

 

Johnson and his puppet master lied to us in 2016; and they're still at it.

Blaming others is the essence of Brexiting. I bet that, after Jan. 1st, they will still put the blame on remainers, the EU, etc...