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Numbers don't lie?

"There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."

--Mark Twain

1 minute ago, pedro01 said:

I came here because I was sent from Japan at 28 years old. At that age, of course I had a tickle in the bars. 

 

You are saying I came here for sex and not to help complete the  implementation of a new manufacturing system at a Japanese hard disk factory?

Sorry sir, I forgot to include those who were legitimately transferred here to work in the course of their career.

And then, after your job was done, did you pack up and go back home?

One could rightly say that any foreigner who came to the Kingdom and hooked up with a Thai woman (or man) came here for sex.  Only those who came with a partner from their home country -- and never, ever got any action on the side from a local -- are exempt from that label.  Any foreigner with a Thai partner who says they didn't come here for sex is a liar and/or in denial.  The holier than thou attitude displayed by some folks around here is hypocritical at best.

Maybe they should create a new visa category: sexpat-in-training, minimum investment one baht gold chain, a pickup truck, and a Chang singlet  ????

Personally, I've got no dog in this fight.  I could be here on a marriage visa, a retirement visa, a visa for supporting Thai family (kids), or splurge for an Elite visa if I were so inclined.  Obviously having some money makes things easier, especially in Thailand.  Good on the lucky oldies who've escaped a dreary denouement in old Blighty.

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

A lot of it has to do with the strict hierarchical social structures here.  

Yes, there really are that many. I have lived in a major NE city for many years and without a doubt, the older guys came here for the sex. 

That's as good a reason as any to come here, no?  What harm does it inflict upon the country?  Happy old guy spending his pension money on Khon Kaen Lek and her family.  Some of them even get more than a meager 40k Thb/month farang English teacher wages.

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

They don't bother me in the slightest. I was just saying that because there are so many of these types, compared to other countries, that the Thai Immigration policy must be different to others. 

I get what you're saying but don't understand the rationale.  What horrible harm do these many (are there really so many?) sex-crazed old codgers inflict upon this country that it needs to protect itself with specifically tailored immigration laws?

On 9/14/2021 at 9:17 PM, Neeranam said:

I looked into OZ citizenship when I was younger but it was much harder than in Thailand, unless I married a local. 

Why not just remain a citizen of the place you were born -- was it that bad?

On 9/14/2021 at 9:16 PM, Neeranam said:

Same rung as whom?

 

What BS, do you really think a retired 70-year old taxi driver that comes here and marries a peasant girl half his age should get citizenship? 

 

Can't you see that Thailand has a unique situation here with the sexpats and has to have rules like no land to protect the country. 

 

Maybe should get together in our Chang singlets and protest.

 

 

 

 

I and most Thai folks I know would probably rather see the aforementioned 70 year old pensioner, especially if he's the jai dee sort, become a Thai citizen in due course, than see a pompous, uppity, ageist twit who couldn't hack it back where he came from singing the Thai national anthem.

That's how it works in most Western countries; marry a citizen and become a citizen yourself after a prescribed time period.

By the way, why such an axe to grind with older fellas who still have a sex drive?

12 hours ago, URMySunshine said:

I would say discretionary spend from idle shopping is on hold for the foreseeable until we see how this pans out. It's boring and tedious at the best of times and now I have a reason to tell the missus to stop !

She'll have a clever response, probably to the effect of "we're all going to die soon, so let me spend it all now" to counter your best efforts.

1 hour ago, Captain 776 said:

 

I rode all over the world for 49 yrs and 14 of those were here in Thailand without a scratch until Oct 2018.

 

Hung up my helmet = Done~!!!

 

Dont become a statistic.

That's interesting.  Would you mind describing the incident that happened in Oct 2018 that caused you to hang it up?  Just curious, because my riding history closely parallels yours except for the last part.  And my 45 years of riding has included some broken bones, bumps and bruises, all my own fault for not properly reading the road conditions.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I have to admit I tried to reconcile that hand with "your" picture...

At first I reckoned you were referring to the previous chap who wished me dead, while appreciating my unconscious habit of keeping a finger poised over the front brake lever.  Now it seems you were actually hand-stalking me. 

Weird, but not surprising around these parts.  

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't know about nice but certainly old.

Old, maybe.  I prefer to think of myself as experienced ????

This just popped up on my YouTube feed:

https://youtu.be/GJPaYqLGJPaYqLdvOU

Compared to the Thai blokes I'm actually a very cautious rider.

6 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

I pay you a 20 M life insurance if you give me the unique benefit

 

Do you ride?  Tell you what - I'll do the same for you and we'll see who gets paid first.

5 minutes ago, jackdd said:

How many years of riding experience are required until it can be considered safe to break traffic rules?

Please see the comment immediately above yours.

https://youtu.be/YwQKgySYwQKgySwBaM

For your viewing pleasure, a longish (20 mins+) video of my usual commute from the cesspit.

I expect at least a few comments from the resident schoolmarms and traffic cops regarding violations of the vehicle code, however in my own defense I will say that I've been riding motorcycles since age 12, street licensed since 14, and all over Thailand since 2004.  Back in California my trusty steed is a Ducati 900SS; this ain't my first rodeo.

12 hours ago, bigrobtheactor said:

My vote goes to Sandorini, or Ios in the Greek Cyclades archipelago. I will also nod to the beach in Tel-Aviv, especially at night or just as the Sabbath (Friday later afternoon) arrives. I loved Rio de Janiero too and Salvador Bahia. Wild. Really. Got my "package" grabbed by roaming packs of teenage girls. There's a tiny beach on Rapa Nui, (Easter Island) that was unforgettable, with the moai staring down at us, "guarding" the harbor. Peaceful and remote, everyone thrilled to be there, a once-in-a-lifetime visit to Earth's most remotely inhabited shore - all of a sudden, family with strangers. Cape Cod ain't bad neither. Thanks for your list. Noted.

Granted the Eastern Seaboard region of the Gulf of Thailand is nowhere near the top of anyone's list of World Class Beaches, but just a few hours drive and a short ferry ride from the cesspit lies Koh Chang, which still has it's share of natural beauty and certainly rates a visit.

The Andaman Sea coast of Thailand from Phang Nga, Trang, Krabi, Khao Lak, with all the famously picturesque islands and beaches along the way to the Malaysian border should meet any sane person's definition of World Class tourist destinations.  Any argument to the contrary would be nothing short of absurd.

My personal list of favorites, some of which I've visited and others I've only seen in pictures, would include Aruba, St. Maarten, the French and Italian Rivieras, Ibiza, Mallorca, Rio de Janeiro (the Girl from Ipanema!), and the list goes on.

Pattaya Beach Road circa 2000 certainly had it's World-Class tourist attractions, but the beach itself was never one of them...

12 hours ago, Traubert said:

They aren't staying away, marra.

 

20m of 'em already this year. More than ever. Goose is still cramming hard.

Quite so.

I notice the press release made no mention of any desire to attract more tourists from North America, UK, Western Europe, or Australia.  It would seem Thailand has moved on and has no need for those of us who continually complain about how horrible Thailand and Thai people are, yet malinger here like a stubborn case of syphilis, or bleat from afar regardless.

Let's get over it already.  Thailand obviously has.