teddog

Just now, sailorjon said:

It seems these medical professionals should tell the patient these facts when they recommend endoscopy and colonoscopy.     That they would not be useful when constipated.

 

I have no faith in that doctor giving a shit about me.  The h.h. condition and or g.i. intestinal blockage, I explained the symptoms and that I was looking for help.  for a diagnosis and treatment.  Telling me to fix the back and lose weight first does not fit that description. I'll think about it.   I really really think I have wasted my time, my money and damaged my health seeking care in thailand.

.....and your mind.  End it Sailor, you hit the nail on the head'not giving a shit' Damned liars too,if I was on my deathbed I would not want any of them within a mile of me

If the quacks got paid by results here in Thailand they would probably owe you money at the end of the month.  That hospital in India  ,the last one,soundsOK, not on the tourist trail, Genesis,   600 and 750 baht for up the ass/down the throat,endoscopy/colonoscopy,seemsOk, with what I've seen quoted here in the past, thought I saw one estimate at 32000 baht once for endoscopy here in Thailand, you will be in and out in little over 40 mins there in India, and if there is blockage, can ask them to investigate. 

  Did look at the hospitals there that would deal with your complaint,I'll send them if you consider going over, other benefits going over , get good glasses at a fraction of Thailand prices, few other things too.  Wasting your time staying here Sailor, you should know it by now

 wasting your money on medical insurance Sailor,another dead end

Sailorjon may come to a conclusion it may have something to do with cancer , he states he is fed up to the back teeth of medical treatment in Thailand better for him to start a fresh approach and one that will not devour all his money.  There are doctors there that specialise in treatment he may well seek, at far less cost than Thailand

1 hour ago, sailorjon said:

That sound good, thanks.  Question, teddog.  When you went to India hospital, did you make an appointment first from thailand for the consultation or just walk in when you arrived?  For some reason, when I called desun about g.i. costs and asked do I need appointment she took my thai telephone number and said she would call me.

t     'Lastly, in this forum, how do you snip a piece of a comment to add to the comment you are going to write..  like on yo comment ...,,.,, Sheryl said'..

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Sailor,probable accept u there and then, Was going where u wanting to go to,but cut my foot earlier in week, stayed where I was and went to nearest hospital,  but they had 18 urology surgeons operating throughout the day ,huge place

 Put skype on phone or laptop  can make calls there then, forget Desun for GI  , use Genesis, half price,but need to clear pipes before GI  2 packs of porridge from pharmacy,1 at 4pm   other at midnight, will send u away if not clear .  Get flop house somewhere close to airport  200 baht taxi, hotel maybe 400,  use as base  do not use airport taxi after drop,but battered taxi,bit smart airport taxi.  ATM prob no use at airport Sailor,outside OK   need to get rupees, bank just outside exit door by AA booth  get cash on card  cheap  prob 5 thousandish baht,change big notes for small ones at coffee shops all around,need small change as taxi will not have any

1 hour ago, tropo said:

No, you haven't upset my breakfast. I thought you didn't care, but now you're back trying to argue your position again.

 

A don't suppose you bothered to read the scientific study posted by the ADA (American Diabetic Association), that I posted earlier?

 

Of course, you didn't. Here it is again:

 

http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/58/11/2547.full?sid=091dd77e-0632-4f1c-bcbd-f0

 .

 

 

Im sorry Tropo,  Im eating my daily Mars bar right now,can not stay too long        BBC   right   then health news   then  coconuts

19 hours ago, Sheryl said:

The angiogram cost cannot pissibly include stent placement (if needed) because the stent devices themselves are quite expensive.

 

Before rushing into angiogram see a pukmonary specialist since if there is a lung problem that would account for the shortness if breath then angiogram may not be needed.

 

 

 

 

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Yes does seem cheap price Sailor,but better quality Indian made stents are worth taking a look at. 

As Sheryl states you may not need angiogram, try this, only a roadside clinic, can do it straight from the airport, if they find anything can always upgrade to a hospital,search  'pulmonary calcutta' will find a few

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do not keep telling them how cheap they are compared to Thailand/US, it only encourages them to put prices up,see the Densun has drfted up slightly too

1 hour ago, Gary A said:

Unlike spirits, beer needs to be fresh. Apparently I'm not a beer expert. I only drink what tastes good to me. I have never had an imported beer in any country that tasted as good as the more popular local brews. I think this applies to any country you happen to be in. One exception is Canadian beer in the US. The travel time between Canada and the US makes Canadian beer nearly as fresh as the US brews. In Southern California, Mexican beer is very popular. That beer also doesn't need to travel very far.

 

Some years back during an Independence Day celebration, the US Embassy served Miller beer imported from the US. In the US,  Millers was good beer. What they served here in Thailand wasn't fit to drink even when it was free.

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Not into US beer ,served at bars that is.  Everything tastes like an IPA,bitter tasting.  Wish I could get a home brewing kit to work in Thailand, but far too hot

Just now, janclaes47 said:

 

It's all there, but after 2 days of your drivel you still fail to post a link to BBC or any other credible source which says that coconut WATER is bad for diabetics.

 

Keep sprouting drivel.

you again, remember when you and Naam got together ,made a right prick out of you,     now its published June 16  BBC health news   not bothered if you drink it/do not drink it, just try coconut studies coconut  Just get on with it  goodbye

52 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

I also have the Malee coconut water, currently in promotion at 45 Baht at Big C extra, but there are several other options between 59 and 99 Baht.

 

On the Malee box it clearly says, every bottle will taste different as not 2 coconuts are the same.

 

They also had a brand at big c named Koh Coconut, which claims to be an awarded product.

 

https://www.kohcoconut.com/koh-coconut-1l

 

 

So now it is, from water to milk and back to water, about coconut oil ?

 

Just waiting until it turns to eating coconut peel is unhealthy.

 

You DO realize that we're talking about coconut water, and that this is a completely different product from the oil - milk - flesh or peel?

 

Did I see the word "advertisement " at the top of your "study"

54 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

I also have the Malee coconut water, currently in promotion at 45 Baht at Big C extra, but there are several other options between 59 and 99 Baht.

 

On the Malee box it clearly says, every bottle will taste different as not 2 coconuts are the same.

 

They also had a brand at big c named Koh Coconut, which claims to be an awarded product.

 

https://www.kohcoconut.com/koh-coconut-1l

 

 

So now it is, from water to milk and back to water, about coconut oil ?

 

Just waiting until it turns to eating coconut peel is unhealthy.

 

You DO realize that we're talking about coconut water, and that this is a completely different product from the oil - milk - flesh or peel?

 

Did I see the word "advertisement " at the top of your "study"

BBC health news  all there,  only thing coconuts are good for is the husk   burning it to keep mosquitoes at bay,  one year its good,next its bad,,...  not bothered   keep drinking it

13 hours ago, tropo said:

You've been talking about this documentary in many posts, and now you claim you're not interested? Now I'm going to have to look for it on my own?

 

 

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Coconut oil is commonly sold as a health food and some claim the fat in it may be better for us than other saturated fats.

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Here is a bit of the article tropo,no reason to stop drinking it,sorry to upset your breakfast,was other studies too regarding anything and everything from coconuts yers before, hate them,even Bounty Bars made me throw up

Just now, tropo said:

You shouldn't be posting about health issues unless you're willing to offer some evidence to back up your claim.

 

Coconut oil has been shown to improve insulin resistance.

 

http://www.healthline.com/health/coconut-oil-and-diabetes#benefits3

 

There's also a link to a scientific study posted by the ADA:

 

http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/58/11/2547.full?sid=091dd77e-0632-4f1c-bcbd-f0b1c42544ba

 

What you used to do 20 years ago in India means little. 30 - 40 years ago everyone threw out their butter and started consuming margarine,  which has since been proven to be rather unhealthy.

Tropo  I want you to drink all the coconut oil you can get your hands on,really I do, I was lying and Im very sorry for my lies, please no more reference    just drink and enjoy

Just now, tropo said:

You've been talking about this documentary in many posts, and now you claim you're not interested? Now I'm going to have to look for it on my own?

 

 

Good on you

Just now, tropo said:

I've seen BBC "documentaries" that try to prove various health issues and was unimpressed with their sensationalistic and very unscientific way of going about things.

 

Perhaps you could have helped us with a link to this show you saw... How about the title?

 

I'll have a look. Out of interest, I'd like to see how bad this particular documentary was.

not interested, milk from it , water from the young coconut, where I lived 20 odd years ago (India) all were smashed to stop it being taken by the kids , diabetes was rampant.  hate the stuff

Just now, janclaes47 said:

So from water to milk and back to water and something about.

 

How about, you have actually no idea what it was about nor what you're talking about?

OK  drink it

10 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

A few posts ago it was coconut water that was bad, and now it's coconut milk.

 

You know there is a big difference between both?

Was water, something about it,but inc  drinking anything from coconuts

   just about a week ago  BBC health matters

2 hours ago, tropo said:

I wonder how they proved that drinking coconut water caused type 2 diabetes. It can take decades for type 2 diabetes to develop. Pinning it on one thing is absurd. This kind of misinformation doesn't help anyone. Coconut water is very healthy. It's too expensive now to drink too much of it. I have no idea how much "too much" is, but I doubt many people drink too much of it.

 

 

It was known 20 perhaps 30 years ago the connection between type2 diabetes and coconuts,  .diabeties was rampant in India then,advisedto stop drinking the milk ,was featured on BBC  less than a week ago

11 hours ago, balo said:

I only drink coconut water these days , very refreshing. And good for you.  

 

not according to recent reports  try BBC     was known to cause type 11 diabetes

56 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Perhaps if he does not go there .  

You can have a bad experience anywhere.

  

Its a shock to the system anywhere in Thailand, pricing and treatment wise.

    India ain't no Thailand for sure when medical matters are of concerned, too many choices though,  if I was SailorJon choose ' diagnostic centres calcutta'   a host will come up pref with prices, least will have a starting point, if MRI wanted probably there and then ,problem  is hospital you choose will also have diagnostic tools also so having to pay twice, cheap enough tho

28 minutes ago, sailorjon said:

I guess there is no way to vet the doctors first or get a recommendation as to who is a good doctor to see... re  the indian hospitals.

 

Did you see that hospital I found before?  Did you think that is too much a big, touristy kind of facility?

 

For the christian hospitals I saw 'mercy hospital' and 'mission hospital'

You will never get a bad experience there, they are all honest and efficient and talented, speak excellent English, even though a bit flat.   The Desun you found, yes will be ok, that is where I was heading for .for my op (prostate) but cut foot on way there,and changed direction,but they will be geared up for foreigners still will be OK tho, try one that does not tout for business, Yes the Mercy is a good one to try,spend a couple of days there,taxis cheap  about 800 baht all in,all day ,give him a couple of extra bucks he will give you a few tips.  Superb place for treating your never ending ailments.,far cheaper thanThailand,much better experience too, shock to system foreign land,but get a few bottles of Haywards 5000 8% beer down you and you'll become one of them overnight

43 minutes ago, sailorjon said:

ted.  you dog!  I want to go to India. First, let's see if insurance will pay the bills here.  I should know this week.  If not,  www.jetradar.com will be visited after I confirm the cost for the procedure, flight and hostel in India.    I'd love it!  Practically housebound 6 months.   Med trip to Malaysia didn't result in any recreation though.  flat on bed.  this is the way it is for now.

Yeah right, I'm a dog.   couple of things sailor, its monsoon season out there right now, nothing like it ,rain day in,day  out, not that that stops anything, but flights are curtailed etc, but as said its only 2 hours away.

                             Hotels are cheap in Calcutta, not much to see either, but get all your cancer scans, blood , stress tests etc. its cheap, up the ass  600 baht last time, but I sent you a couple of ideas,  The Christian hospital there, maybe, plus that diagnostic centre too, there all on the web, Skype them, or email, tell them your problems and let them get on with it, get an idea on pricing tho, you can always get them down,  another one I like there, The Ruby  hospital seems a good efficient hospital    stay away from health touristy type hospitals,smaller ones are good, anyway  good luck

get flexi return Tix  u do not know how long there   e visa about $50 to $60. m  Get all your medications there too,    now they are cheaper than cheap

1 minute ago, sailorjon said:

Hi. I will update soon.  Thanks for comments.  Deerculler, I have been taking Sheila's advice.   It's complicated. I also have to think for myself.  Being able to get to the doctor that is recommended is not always possible without a waiting weeks...  so I went to Vejthani to get tested right away for my heart as it seemed to be urgent.  There are also complex insurance concerns.

 

I  saw the orthopedic surgeon Sheila recommended and he is waiting for me to get an MRI and I am waiting to save enough money for the MRI.

 

I also had an appointment with Dr. Piyapan the G.I.that Sheila recommended on May 1st.   His conclusions warranted another opinion which I have yet to get as I have been forced to focus on the urgent heart/breath crisis I am having.  He didn't think an endoscopy would show anything and said I should first fix my fractured vertebrae problems and  lose weight and then we can discuss g.i. options.    This left me essentially where I have been left for 6 months, tests, appointments, guesses with no real diagnosis and no treatment and daily suffering with a very limited restricted life.

 

Also, I have contacted the hospital about the pulmonary specialist Sheila recommended and I am trying to get an appointment now.

 

I just got the news yesterday that the insurance company said they will not cover the angiogram test needed to check for artery blockage.  My insurance agent and I are pushing the company.  They responded with a request for 3 signed copies of an authorization form to get medical records in order to check if it is pre existing or not. So, I can do nothing else on that now as I cannot afford the heart tests at this time.

 

 

 

All above are Thailand prices Sailorjon,there are alternatives

40 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Since it has been kegged and transported half-way around the world in a controlled temperature environment, it just shows what a rip off the price of a pint is in the UK.

 

Witherspoon's OSH is horrible. I doubt they shift enough of it or change kegs often enough to clean the bloody pipes. Punch & Judy is just as bad. Manky.

Witherspoons  OSH might be horrible,but is  far better than the bottled rubbish   Thought Guinness was brewed in Malaysia also, and according to some is better tasting than the Irish stuff     

     Piss Stop  soi B  does pints of English cider for 145 baht, but bit too sweet for my platter

180 baht  happy hour                Old Speckled Hen             both Witherspoons

170 baht       same same                   Guinness         

About the same prices back 'ome,just exchange rates make seem expensive       Any other prices on offer?

11 hours ago, Flustered said:

Much as I disagree with 99.99% of what  Rajab Al Zarahni posts, I would not stoop to a racist remark like this.

 

Although his name is of Saudi origin, there is no reason why he could not be a 100% British citizen and fully entitled to post his views on this subject.

No they would not,not from living outside GB if no NI payments made