Wong!

76 BHP, even the 1100 V4 only 116BHP

Ever since Euro4 became standard, most diesels have been pretty similar. Caltex Techron and Shell V-power do seem to have better cleaning additives, but there's not the massive gap there used to be between them and the others back in the Euro3 days. Instead of using them exclusively, you might just want to pay the extra every few tanks for a bit of a clean out

Some PTT's also sell Euro5 diesel, but no major benefit to that unless you have an Euro import that needs it.

Caltex Techron comes at ther regular price of 29.96 Baht, where Shell V-power carries a premium.

According to the Bureau of Petroleum and Petrochemical Policy all High Speed Diesel is priced the same (29.99) today.

http://www.shell.co.th/en/products-services/on-the-road/fuels/shell-fuel-prices.html

Then I have no idea which one I used

At My Age, i dont give a Rats Ass.As long as it aint a Ford. .

So you'd only buy a Ford if it had a Mazda badge on it? Uh, ok...

I think what you're trying to allude to is model sharing between Mazda and Ford, but I'm pretty sure Ace of Pop isn't interested in pickup trucks

Anyways, engineering and manufacturing is only part of it.. it appears the biggest problems with Ford are it's pre-sales and after-sales service, not so much the product itself (outside of powershit gearboxes and Rangers with 8mm wading depth )

...or the Mazda 2 & 3. Even the Mazda 6's platform is used by Ford in some of its 2nd tier (tech-wise) markets like the US.

If you can stretch to 584k then go for the Fiesta. It's miles better than any of the eco cars. The same could be said for the Honda City at 599k, but in my experience they're a bit thirsty.

If you really don't want the Swift then maybe take a look at the Kia Picanto. They're actually a really nice little car and well within your budget. http://www.kia.com/th/MODELS/Cars/Picantok1/Gallery/Exterior/index.htm

At My Age, i dont give a Rats Ass.As long as it aint a Ford. .

So you'd only buy a Ford if it had a Mazda badge on it? Uh, ok...

Ever since Euro4 became standard, most diesels have been pretty similar. Caltex Techron and Shell V-power do seem to have better cleaning additives, but there's not the massive gap there used to be between them and the others back in the Euro3 days. Instead of using them exclusively, you might just want to pay the extra every few tanks for a bit of a clean out

Some PTT's also sell Euro5 diesel, but no major benefit to that unless you have an Euro import that needs it.

Caltex Techron comes at ther regular price of 29.96 Baht, where Shell V-power carries a premium.

According to the Bureau of Petroleum and Petrochemical Policy all High Speed Diesel is priced the same (29.99) today.

I usually go with PTT because I know they take a credit card, but I filled up with Shell today.

Made absolutely no difference yet, but I've only done about 80kms with it.

Yeah the gear box is loud as hell. I think people sitting in the cars can hear me shifting lol. Sometimes mine slips through second into third. Need to get that looked into. Remember when i shifted from 5th to 4th but it dropped into 3rd as soon as i let go clutch my rear wheel spun out i almost lost it. Was fun but scary Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Sounds like your gear selector isn't adjusted properly. I'd take it in to get looked it if you don't feel confident doing it yourself. Not having this done will probably increase the wear on your gearbox and you may chip a few cogs if you're not careful.

I have a 500F and do slip the clutch at low speeds. Quite normal on a bike and it has a wet clutch so no problemo.

The gear box is 'clunky' but accurate - nice and solid.

I think you'd get bored of the 700 and wonder why you paid so much money for a lesser bike.

i think they have red and white now and no black what i know.

Red one is OK.

of course cbr650f is a better bike but you ave to ask yourself if you need more power and weight for Bangkok.

I thought they did that nasty Matt grey one?

Some very optimistic 0-100 times there.

I hope you all realize that this is just a motorcycle for sale ad that was cleverly placed as a forum topic?

Oh no!

Harley Davidson InCorporation

Very funny, unless this article was from 1927.

Are these bikes being exported for the European market,if so I don't really see where it fits in,especially the naked version,which seems to have a bigger engine but lower spec than the already popular 600 hornet.

I also said this about the honda 150 & 250 and during the last 6 months in the uk didn't see any of these bikes on the road ,loads of the Yamaha 125 though that looks like the r6

Honda haver realised that if they want to stop the customer base shrinking they needed to make bikes that appeal to more people, especially so called 'non-bikers'. So, they have started to make bikes which are easy to ride, efficient, cheap to run, cheap to manufacture and easy to maintain. Of course, some people still want a bike that they will only ever use 40% of and that's why they still make proper sport bikes, but these are a tiny minority of Honda's target sales.

"So, they have started to make bikes which are easy to ride, efficient, cheap to run, cheap to manufacture" Honda always have.

True, in so much that Hondas have always had better ergonomics than most other manufacturers, but now they are pushing it to newer levels (the 700/750 bikes are perfect examples of this).

Should be entitled American riders, not experienced riders.

I can't think of one European rider who would come out with rubbish like that.

With real motorbikes you usually need to care for them yourself just like you would have to care for a horse. You have to learn what you can do yourself and what needs help.

Riding motorcyles is not twist and go.

What a crock.

You must look rather fetching in those bras Dog. I had never previously thought of you as that way inclined.

I have a femine side lol I am going on my first ever in my life club ride on the 19th of this month, can't wait, I think I might be the only one with this bike, by the way it's awesome!! I'm also sorting out some protection albeit a waistcoat with armour, I am not comfortable in lots of hot gear, I now wear gloves all the time, I will wear the waistcoat as it is comfortable and 100% cool, I might invest in some Kevlar jeans, boots I will not wear so it will be comfortable trainers, I just love motorbikes!!

Depending on what bikes the others are riding, be prepared to hit speeds of up to 130 / 140 kmh on these club rides if you don't want to get left behind (and to be invited for future rides). When I ride with Club Versys Thailand, we cruise at 130 kmh. On a recent trip with Real Motosports (Kawasaki - cruising speed on the highways 140 -150). PCX - 80-90 (can't do above 110 on a PCX anyway). With Ducati, anything from 100 to 150 depending on which group you get stuck in

Exactly why I prefer to ride alone of with the wife on the back. Only a complete idiot would think that doing 150 on Thai roads is sensible.

Alternatively, you could find a spark of originality and do something more along these lines...

Are these bikes being exported for the European market,if so I don't really see where it fits in,especially the naked version,which seems to have a bigger engine but lower spec than the already popular 600 hornet.

I also said this about the honda 150 & 250 and during the last 6 months in the uk didn't see any of these bikes on the road ,loads of the Yamaha 125 though that looks like the r6

The first news of the CBR 650 F came from MCM covering the Italy Milan Motor Show. It was on YouTube about a month before the Bangkok Moto Expo. These bikes will defiantly be make there way to Europe. They will probably go to America as well.

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Nope. Not going to the US, at least not in 2014.

"470 cc of course is faster than 300 cc"

Not always.

Power to weight and gearing and what matters, not capacity. Even more so when you consider that the 500s are restricted on power by design. Despite not liking Kawas, the 300 will run the CB500 very close on the track, but on the road, the 500s are a better bike for most people.

but we compare 300 cc in Thailand wong! of course a race spec or two stroke 300 cc will be faster than cbr500r.

But clearly, cbr500r is a faster bike than a ninja 300, be it high speed, acceleration and torque.

Barely.

Are these bikes being exported for the European market,if so I don't really see where it fits in,especially the naked version,which seems to have a bigger engine but lower spec than the already popular 600 hornet.

I also said this about the honda 150 & 250 and during the last 6 months in the uk didn't see any of these bikes on the road ,loads of the Yamaha 125 though that looks like the r6

Honda haver realised that if they want to stop the customer base shrinking they needed to make bikes that appeal to more people, especially so called 'non-bikers'. So, they have started to make bikes which are easy to ride, efficient, cheap to run, cheap to manufacture and easy to maintain. Of course, some people still want a bike that they will only ever use 40% of and that's why they still make proper sport bikes, but these are a tiny minority of Honda's target sales.

So basically if you buy a Tiger you have to practically rebuild it before you can be happy with it. Very bizarre.

I have had 6 Hondas. Apart from the one that had 32 years of Thai mechanics screwing it up, all were great and I didn't need to rebuild them before they worked.

The Boxer 250 has the worst sounding, tinny engine I have ever heard on anything. I've had lawnmowers with a gruntier sounding engine.

"470 cc of course is faster than 300 cc"

Not always.

Power to weight and gearing and what matters, not capacity. Even more so when you consider that the 500s are restricted on power by design. Despite not liking Kawas, the 300 will run the CB500 very close on the track, but on the road, the 500s are a better bike for most people.

Someone's nicked the gearstick.

Wonder if it will filter down to us?

It has as much bearing on the Thai market as it does on the Martian market.