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I recommend all IO's take a refresher course at Jomtien immigration.

Why, oh, why? You has a good thing going.

Nong Bua Lam Phu immigration office is just across the Government office complex entrance, right next to the Kerry office. 

13 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

 he's a professor at Oxford University in the UK, so hardly an idiot. 

But not street smart.

59 minutes ago, whiteman said:

Stickman latest message in print says no to Thailand as a retirement place but then again he does not have lots of money till his parents die. What would one expect as a ex teacher in Thailand for most of his working life here. Money talks

Stickman is confused. He talks about how one should do whatever one wants to while young (but where is money then?). When he is old and retired (few years in BKK) him wanting to do things as when he was young will just not cut. He says can lead a comfortable life here if live like Thai. But if live in BKK with lifestyle like in NYC then it's going to cost. Duh? BKK a cosmopolitan city too, very much like Western cities. Sure it will cost much to live in BKK. 

But he can go the other way too. Open his mind. Live on a farm in Issan. Grow organic crops, introduce better farming techniques, influence villagers to increase yield and productivity. Teach children English for free. Get into Vipassanna meditation. Give back to the world, except me, me, me.

Thia retirement blush is coming off from many foreigners due to rising costs, onerous and strong implementation (to some) of visa rules and regs., thai society's not showing sufficient deference to foreigners, thai's not behaving like citizens from third world countries (not sure why they left their own country in the first place).

41 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Indian Hindus 

Do you also say American Protestants, American Mormons, American Catholics when you write about Americans?

Wishing you a great time in Vietnam.

28 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

It would not be the first time, but so far has changed little - except you cannot pay "on the spot" to satisfy them now.

Your experience? 

It is not exploiting anything to follow the published laws and rules created by Thai authorities.  Until those rules are changed, there is nothing wrong with entering on a Tourist Visa repeatedly.

There are laws. And there are IO's. The IO's has discretion and his decision is final.

Which has nothing to do with repeat Tourist Visa use - more related to the biometric-system, which Cambodia has had for many years now.

Me thinks criminal visitors go in and out of the country frequently. Your opinion maybe different. Thats ok.

It is blatant - but I think the only reason we heard about this case, was the OP doesn't "need" to stay in Thailand.   One who did would almost certainly have paid in the future, and not reported it.

Exchanging LINE contact is more dangerous for the IO than on the spot payment. 

Maybe you can take your gf to your country. 

25 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

I have read a couple similar accounts - more from Poipet, also.  One airport-example was a cash on-the-spot offer from a Singaporean - though he was here more consistently.  

 

As to why there are not more reports like this, consider that the OP is now a marked-man, having provided so many details - unless those were fake (I hope, for his sake). 

 

But the primary reason you would not read about these stories here, is because those being targeted would be happy to have such an offer, as it removes the Constant FEAR that immigration has put into those here more-often/longer.  Almost all would pay and be quiet, so they can preserve their lives here. 

 

The mistake the IO (junior and senior) in this case made, was targeting someone who did not have connections in Thailand that could be used as leverage - living here most of the time and/or a Thai GF.   The OP's wife/family is not Thai. 

  

Provided they are sharing "properly" with the chain of command, yes.  If running an independent shop, they do risk getting busted - and sometimes are (makes good media-fodder).

 

And be sure the lower-level IO who is feeding him "leads" also gets a cut, to keep them enthusiastic about travelers like the OP  - who wasn't even a "Staying in Thailand most of the time" visitor.

 

The IOs under his command are instructed to look for anyone who can be fleeced for "being here too much before" (not a legal reason to deny-entry).    They would not need to be looking for the OP, specifically.

 

Well, it is "about the money" - but has never been about how much money we have to support our stays, or if we are a security-threat or any legitimate concern.  It is about how much corruption money they can extort from us. 

 

The apologists' crime is trying to pretend that immigration's "crackdowns" are about anything other than corruption - as they cover for them with every excuse and backhanded reason under the sun - and more "reasoning" from where the sun don't shine.

I guess most of this write up is conjecture. In the age of digital media "Blatant corruption at Svarnbhumi" headline and follow up personal story will have Thailand lose collective face internationally. "Being too much here before" on tourist visa is exploiting the system. Best to get the right visa for long term, frequent coming and going, visitors. Out of millions of yearly visitors to Thailand there are undoubtedly many foreign criminals that come here. Sure, there is corruption here. As in any other country, only the degrees vary. But for an IO to openly solicit a "target" at Svarnbhumi, exchanging LINE contact, is a head scratcher

These newbie post has click bait written all over it.

• Spare us so much winning!!
• U.S. President Donald Trump’s businesses lost a total of more than $1 billion from 1985 to 1994, according to the New York Times, which said it obtained printouts from Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts.
• The newspaper said Trump posted losses in excess of $250 million in both 1990 and 1991, which appeared to be more than double any other individual U.S. taxpayer, based on IRS data.
• Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years, the Times said.

This loser has a finger on the red button that can blow up the world. 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

Love conquers all.

If its not a big hassle you can go to the office and find out if you can apply on the 8th. GL.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

This is how some interpret the regulation, given that Imm. has us via a TM-6, TM-7 and TM-47. But not necessarily how every office seems to be invoking the zealous enforcement of this previously ignored rule.

 

Does Udon Imm. require at least one TM-30 report, within the proscribed 24-hour "return" period at this permanent residential address?

 

 

Yes, they do require one TM-30 report within 24 hr on return to permanent residential address after returning from abroad.

Good for him and good for Thailand. Win, win.

Hey man, if it was not a supportive relationship, why hang around. However, if you have sunk considerable finances (home, car(s), farm, etc.) and have a usufruct then stay in the home independently.

Whatever you do, best wishes.

Now imagine a Thai yelling/screaming at an American immigration officer. Will be escorted out if not arrested for causing a public nuisance. I wonder when Thais will level up with western standards.