Mel52

But I’ve never lived in Texas the southern red necks in the south east United States are worse and without as much education. I’ve driven through Texas before and I know a lot of people from Texas. I’ve spent enough time in Texas to understand the culture.

 
 
From the looks of it those women wouldn't make me feel any safer at all.
 

You don’t know, because there is probably nothing that can be done legislatively that will treat the root problem.

You can gather up all the guns, and that will likely reduce gun deaths (at least the suicides) but it does not really address the problem.

Semi-automatics have been around for well over 100 years. The percentage of homes with guns has not really gone up, in the last 50 years, and the overall murder rate has gone down in the last 40 years, so while it’s easy to focus on guns, it’s probably not going to help much. Of course if it gets one leftist elected, all the rhetoric and grandstanding will have been worthwhile.

I know the police can’t be everywhere but we might need to hire more cops good ones though

Obviously we shouldn’t arm teachers that’s stupid they need police guarding schools and other crowded public places more security. That’s what I meant by more security in the short term because that’s all we can do at the moment. The real tough question is what do we do in the long term? That’s where it gets political and very complicated because of the gun control stuff.

And if the police were there in seconds how did this idiot have 20 minutes to shoot over 40 people? Never mind don’t answer that.

Okay, what would you have them do?

They being who?
Top-down solutions generally don’t work for bottom-up problems.

Eliminating guns will not reduce the number of nut-sacks wanting to kill people.

I don't get your point. 
If you're talking about policy changes, that always must involve politics.
 

See now someone finally brings up a smart point. And this is why I don’t like discussing the politics of it because it’s EXTREMELY COMPLICATED and no one has all the answers to it.

Except for jingthing lol [emoji23]. But it’s a major tragedy and there’s nothing funny about it which is another reason why I don’t like discussing the politics of it.

Point is that the diversity in America is the root of all the violence and it always has been since the beginning of time throughout the world. Different people have been killing each other simply because they are different people throughout the world for centuries and America is extremely diverse and extremely divided currently. We’re more divided now than we’ve ever been since the civil war so that’s the cause of the violence now we just have to figure out realistically what do we do about it. If they tried to confiscate all guns now and if they stopped selling all guns now for a while you would be seeing A HELL OF A LOT more violence for years to come and possibly another civil war for real. The point is that we have to stop the violence not make it worse by imposing our will on everyone.

How many people would die while you're trying to take away the guns?
I'm thinking more than are killed in the random shootings.
Or do you think everyone will peacefully hand over their guns, if you ask them nicely?

and europe isn,t?

It won’t work because it won’t stop 100%? I would not expect it to stop 100%.


So if gun control won’t stop 100% of shootings we should not pursue it, correct? Same thinking, yes?

Even I agree that if we could get rid of all the guns there would be a lot fewer tragedies like this but how? How is it possible to get rid of all the guns out there now? You can’t at least not in this generation anyway it would probably take at least a century to get rid of all the guns so if we’re going to discuss it let’s at least get real about it. But I’m done discussing the politics of a national tragedy like I said.

Scary in America is a matter of race.  Many towns are not welcoming for whites or blacks. 

You would think that a lot of these Europeans and Australians would at least understand how diverse America really is. Even some Americans I don’t think truly understand that.

Republicans and NRA don't have veto power and the Democrats in the congress don't have the balls to write legislation.  You  must not be an American because you know nothing about our legal system.  

You mean like Fast & Furious?

Right now at the moment the fastest things we can do is beef up security and focus harder on mental health throughout the world
 
Fastest things.........beef up security and focus on mental health. If those are the fastest things we can do then there is absolutely no hope!!!
 
Gun control is a quick way and far faster than your suggestions, but the Repubs and NRA veto it!! Go figure!

So the obvious answer is let’s ban all guns right now right? Sure ok fine if that would actually work right now but it won’t because what about the billions of guns that are already out there and have been for years? What do we do about it right now? Right now at the moment the fastest things we can do is beef up security and focus harder on mental health throughout the world especially in some people on this forum. Then as time goes on and yes sooner the better we have the gun control debate but while they are still picking up dead bodies off the ground we can at least wait till we mourn first jeez.

And this is exactly why I don’t like discussing the politics of a national tragedy. So I am done reading all this nonsense because now I’m doing it to I’m feeding into this bs. This is exactly what the ass holes who do these things want us to do and we do and it continues on an endless cycle of these nuts who just want people talking about what they did.

What makes me mad is how when something terrible happens especially in America people just start saying with that little smirk on their faces how terrible and violent America is. People like some of the people on here that I’ve read posts from before that are always the first to jump up and shout something stupid.

Then don't. 
The old thoughts and prayers, don't talk about the issues right away noise, is totally PASSE.
That happened after Parkland.
The friends of the student victims clearly said -- let's talk about it and do something about it -- RIGHT NOW. 
That was some kind of progress but so far very little in results. 

All I can say to you at this point is that the Ignore List is your friend. 

Then don't. 
The old thoughts and prayers, don't talk about the issues right away noise, is totally PASSE.
That happened after Parkland.
The friends of the student victims clearly said -- let's talk about it and do something about it -- RIGHT NOW. 
That was some kind of progress but so far very little in results. 

Jeez.....that has to be the most laughable yet screwed up post on the thread!!!
 
Improving border security won't help those immigrants already in the US, and the racist rhetoric from the orange clown will ensure more deaths occur. Border security has nothing to do with the nationalist/racist element that this clown appeals to.
 
This clown has said he will veto any move to improve the gun laws to make the US safer.......and you say the left are sabotaging what this clown is trying to do???? He is the problem because he is in the pocket of the NRA.
 
As for dividing the country..........he is the most divisive president you have had by far, polls and feedback show it and as if that wasn't enough he is just plain dumb:-
 
A few Trump memorable quotes: (And you voted this clown in????).........
 
In his speech Trump claimed, “the 1775 revolutionary army 'took over airports'. Dumb or no functioning brain?
 
Inventing a new word…….CORFEFE.
 
We could do with some ‘global warming” when the weather became cold in a few US states. Yeah right. Absolutely no understanding of that whatsoever.
 
“I even thought of Ivanka for the World Bank,” he added. “She would’ve been great at that because she’s very good with numbers. Now how dumb is that?
 
Then there's his reference to the Prince of Whales. And many more.
 
You have got a dumb, racist idiot as a leader and it is plain for all to see (apart from those who are so blind that they will not see).