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On 5/7/2021 at 5:33 PM, Jonathan Swift said:
Must be an American. People like him are why I tell people "Ma ca pracanr" I'm from the moon
Actually he's German. Probably voted for bideni
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These vaccines have been tested for how long, six months? Might be better to be in the non-vaccinated 30%. Just sayin'.
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Six months of testing is not enough.
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Here's what Dr. Fauci said about masks.
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On 4/19/2021 at 3:34 PM, WaveHunter said:
Better and safer ways to deal with the situation? Like what? Please inform us with some examples because I am aware of none at all.
This virus is not going to just disappear. It is here to stay...forever, just like the flu virus or the common cold! The only way viruses like this are brought under control is through herd immunity, and historically there are only two ways this has been achieved; Either through vaccines, or simply waiting until enough people die, as was the case in the The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918.
A lot of "slanted" and politically charged news has been coming out about the dangers of the current vaccines lately, and a lot of it simply does not hold water when you look at the cold statistics of actual deaths or adverse reactions directly attributable to the vaccines, compared to the numbers of vaccinated people that are free from any adverse reactions.
Sorry to be so cold and analytical about this but there is not a single prescription drug or vaccine ever made that has been 100% free from adverse reactions in some people or even unexpected deaths. Does that mean they should not be used at all? Of course not!
Lockdowns, social distancing, and all the other measures being currently practiced are good and well, but they don't have a chance in hell of ever leading us to herd immunity.
We've used these measures for over a year now, and they are having virtually no effect at truly reducing the R-Naught, especially in the most susceptible groups (people over 65, and/or with comorbidities).
All that these stop gap measure have really accomplished is to create an economic catastrophe that has yet to even be fully realized and will probably prove to be more devastating than the health crisis caused by the virus itself.
Unless you know something that most acknowledged experts don't know, VERY FAST rollouts of vaccines are the only way to deal with this pandemic, and IMO more importantly, the economic crisis that is about to unfold.
"In fact, as inexpensive, oral and widely available medications, and a nutritional supplement, the combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin or doxycycline, and zinc are well-suited for early treatment in the outpatient setting. The combination should be prescribed in high-risk patients immediately upon clinical suspicion of COVID-19 disease, without waiting for results of testing. Delays in waiting before starting the medications can reduce their efficacy."
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36 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:
Better and safer ways to deal with the situation? Like what? Please inform us with some examples because I am aware of none at all.
This virus is not going to just disappear. It is here to stay...forever, just like the flu virus or the common cold! The only way viruses like this are brought under control is through herd immunity, and historically there are only two ways this has been achieved; Either through vaccines, or simply waiting until enough people die, as was the case in the The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918.
A lot of "slanted" and politically charged news has been coming out about the dangers of the current vaccines lately, and a lot of it simply does not hold water when you look at the cold statistics of actual deaths or adverse reactions directly attributable to the vaccines, compared to the numbers of vaccinated people that are free from any adverse reactions.
Sorry to be so cold and analytical about this but there is not a single prescription drug or vaccine ever made that has been 100% free from adverse reactions in some people or even unexpected deaths. Does that mean they should not be used at all? Of course not!
Lockdowns, social distancing, and all the other measures being currently practiced are good and well, but they don't have a chance in hell of ever leading us to herd immunity.
We've used these measures for over a year now, and they are having virtually no effect at truly reducing the R-Naught, especially in the most susceptible groups (people over 65, and/or with comorbidities).
All that these stop gap measure have really accomplished is to create an economic catastrophe that has yet to even be fully realized and will probably prove to be more devastating than the health crisis caused by the virus itself.
Unless you know something that most acknowledged experts don't know, VERY FAST rollouts of vaccines are the only way to deal with this pandemic, and IMO more importantly, the economic crisis that is about to unfold.
HERE'S THE DEAL!
The vaccine situation in Thailand is a disaster. Expats will not be getting the vaccine any time soon. In the meantime, the virus is spreading uncontrollably. Hunker down, READ, and figure out what to do.
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12 hours ago, Brierley said:
My plan is to head to Chiang Mai RAM hospital, where I am known, along with my medical insurance. Where I might get shipped off to afterwards remains unknown, possibly Maharaj, possibly Nakorn Ping, possibly nowhere.
Very possibly a field hospital as all the beds in normal hospitals would be taken.
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19 minutes ago, loong said:
I can totally understand that with the current policy of making you stay in hospital even if you have no symptoms.
I seriously doubt that any insurance will pay out for treatment of a policy holder with no symptoms.
Agree. My insurance company will only pay for overseas claims that they deem "medically necessary."
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1 hour ago, robblok said:
Totally correct too bad a lot of antivax knowledge is not knowledge but bad science. If its even science based.
So im sorry for comparing anti vaxers with village idiots. Your right the village idiots are smarter. I appologize to all the village idiots.
Thanks for showing me the errors of my ways.
The people refusing to take these vaccines are not necessarily anti vaxxers. The COVID vaccines are NOT approved by the US FDA and that is good reason to be skeptical of them. Members of the US military cannot be forced to take these vaccines for that reason. People should read the fact sheets before taking these vaccines.
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Thailand has been hit with the UK variant and some say the existing vaccines don't protect against it. No matter since not enough people are getting vaccinated anyway.
The new variant is said to be more easily transmitted and more lethal.
Look like Thailand may end up reaching herd immunity "the hard way."
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It's important to remember that none of these vaccines are approved in the US.
The Pfizer vaccine fact sheet says the following,
"The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine."
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"There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19 "
The vaccines have been made available in the US under Emergency Use Authorization.
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On 4/2/2021 at 4:01 PM, Phoenix Rising said:
With the World News section closed I will visit this forums only if I'm after some specific information only other expats can answer. So from several visits a day I'll probably visit once or twice a month.
Only reason I visited today was to find out what happened to the World News section. Not the smartest decision TVF ever made.
It was a smart move made at exactly the right time.
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tl;dr
Ratings on news media and sites all over the world tanked after President Trump was no longer in the news. World News Forum here was no different and getting rid of it was the smart thing to do. That forum became very boring after January 20 and I would guess got very few clicks compared to the four previous years. The decision to jettison it was simply good business sense.
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How many senseless killings have to happen before we institute knife control?
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8 minutes ago, simple1 said:IMO a President who is prepared for media questions is far better than the prior incumbent who lied and misinformed the general public numerous times during each media interaction, tried to ban media reps who asked him challenging questions and so on. The former president was actively attempting to suppress free speech and non republican voters. The prior incumbent was a disgrace to the Office of the President of the USA who likely will be facing civil / criminal Courts in the months ahead, along with enablers of his corruption from his immediate family.
You miss him, don't you?
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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:Criticism of President Biden's human condition coping with old age isn't going to make him any younger. I suggest people wait until there may be evidence that his condition stops him from performing his presidential duties if ever. Occasionally cringe worthy moments dealing with the press don't even come close to rising to that level. Again Google FDR. Biden isn't the first or last president who isn't a perfect physical specimen. If there is ever evidence that he has become permanently unfit to serve I would be on board with people asking him to resign to pass the torch to Kamala Harris.
FDR *knew* he couldn't walk up the stairs. Biden had to find out the hard way.
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1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:
One of my first things to do upon arrival in the US is to buy some guns. Couple of handguns, a few shotguns and a couple rifles.
If I were moving to the US, I would do the same. 2A is still intact and is not going away.
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26 minutes ago, Sujo said:
But you dont mind horseface, fat pig, slob.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-worst-insults-toward-women-2018-10
You miss him, don't you?
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5 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:Love your signature line! Too funny....I do believe there's a new Zappa movie out?
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life."
Frank Zappa
Stop being a kiss a$$.
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3 hours ago, webfact said:"My plan is to run for re-election. That's my expectation," Biden told reporters at the White House.
ahh..No, joe, just no.
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Yep
"...Biden at his first news conference...When Biden moved on to fielding questions, the president didn’t get a single query about the virus that has rewritten the rules of society for more than a year."
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-1st-news-conference-2804de86cb2bd901c14c109efe024e5d
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Andrew Cuomo’s family members were given special access to covid testing, according to people familiar with the arrangement
Josh Dawsey, Amy Brittain, Sarah Ellison 2 hrs agoAs the coronavirus pandemic swept through New York early last year, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s administration arranged for his family members and other well-connected figures to have special access to state-administered coronavirus tests, dispatching a top state doctor and other state health officials to their homes, according to three people with direct knowledge of the effort.
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ABC’s Martha Raddatz put Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas through a tough round of questions on why the Biden administration didn’t stop the migrant situation at the U.S. southern border from escalating.
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Joe Scarborough Shreds Biden Admin Over US-Mexico Border Situation
https://ijr.com/scarborough-shreds-biden-admin-us-mexico-border-migrants/
Does anyone else agree that all 'red-light workers' should be forced to get the vaccine and show evidence before returning to work.
in ASEAN NOW Community Pub
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No one should be forced to get this "vaccine."