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  1. Help me out here. Are you suggesting that thousands of people did not chant "Hang Pence" and that because a single voice can't be discerned from the mob that nobody is guilty?
  2. the next logical extension of this comment is that only the first country they cross into which is safe should have to take them. are you starting to see a pattern here? "get off our lawn"?
  3. Why should Rwanda have to take them? The logical extension of your fallacy is that no country need take refugees.
  4. Members of the House committee investigating the Capitol riot said Sunday they have uncovered enough evidence for the Justice Department to consider an unprecedented criminal indictment against former President Donald Trump for seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The committee announced that Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, is among the witnesses scheduled to testify at a hearing Monday that focuses on Trump’s effort to spread his lies about a stolen election. As the hearings unfold, Rep. Adam Schiff said he would like the department to “investigate any credible allegation of criminal activity on the part of Donald Trump.” Schiff, D-Calif., who also leads the House Intelligence Committee, said that ”there are certain actions, parts of these different lines of effort to overturn the election that I don’t https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-adam-schiff-government-and-politics-presidential-elections-d87892379e7e81c2907edef81a3b2b86
  5. How about "the accused can't be on the jury"? McCarthy was subpoenaed by the committee.. Did you read AOC's comments?
  6. Did you not see and hear videos of dozens, if not hundreds, of the rioters shouting 'hang Pence"? Is this just part of the wilful ignorance campaign? What relevance is it that individuals were not identified and convicted? In video showed Wednesday at Trump’s second impeachment trial, rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” and “Bring out Pence!” as they roamed the halls searching for the former vice president and other lawmakers. Outside, the mob set up a makeshift gallows on the field near the Capitol. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-video-shows-capitol-mob-calling-for-the-death-of-the-vice-president-plaskett-says https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/12/trump-capitol-attack-rioters-mike-pence Trump said it was 'common sense' for Capitol rioters to chant 'Hang Mike Pence' https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/12/donald-trump-rioters-chanting-hang-mike-pence-common-sense/8594353002/ Was ‘Hang Mike Pence’ Chanted at Capitol Riot? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hang-mike-pence-chant-capitol-riot/ https://www.audacy.com/1010wins/news/politics/video-pro-trump-mob-chants-hang-mike-pence
  7. Ocasio-Cortez says Republicans who were ‘in on’ Capitol riot shouldn’t be on Jan. 6 committee “We need a Select Committee to investigate the Jan. 6th domestic terrorist attack. But we must also be careful about any Republicans that may serve on the committee. There are indications that some of these folks were in on it, & we can’t have them be a part of the investigation,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/561102-ocasio-cortez-says-republicans-who-were-in-on-capitol-riot-shouldnt-be-on-jan/
  8. Pelosi rejects GOP picks Jordan, Banks on Jan. 6 committee; McCarthy threatens to pull out https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/ "Was it Clyde? Gosar? Gaetz? Jordan? Boebert? Greene? Others? Please remind us @HouseGOP - which of your current sitting members sought pardons after the attack? In addition to @RepScottPerry of course," https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-january-6-pardon-clemency-requests-democratic-reactions-social-media-1714785 Cheney hasn’t named names … yet … but we already have a pretty good idea who those multiple other congressmen might be: House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California and Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Mo Brooks of Alabama and yep, Andy Biggs. “Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five Republican nominees, Republicans will not be party to their sham process and will instead pursue our own investigation of the facts," McCarthy said in a statement on Wednesday afternoon. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/ The accusations, however, are to some degree disingenuous: it was McCarthy who pulled all Republican participation, incensed at Pelosi’s refusals, rather than name different members https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/27/kevin-mccarthy-refuses-capitol-attack-subpoena House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy sent a letter via his lawyer to the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, outlining why he will not comply with his subpoena as it stands and delivering a list of demands in order to move forward. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/27/politics/kevin-mccarthy-january-6-subpoena/index.html
  9. Charles will be the last British king. the revulsion will be palpable once he assumes the throne. Australia will be the next Republic.
  10. It's not claiming to be any court or issuing any judgement. It's doing nothing other than revealing evidence and explaining what that evidence means. The republicans had a chance to participate meaningfully but nominated their most guilty for the job and for that reason they were rightfully rejected., then they refused participation at all. Cheney and Kinzinger nominated themselves.
  11. The kool aid is simultaneously a truth serum. They know that if Trump goes down the GOP blow any chance of regaining the house and senate at the next election, let alone the presidency itself. the more wacky and conspiratorial trump gets, the more they need to support those theories. He deliberately appealed to the lowest common denominator, fascists, incels, white supremacists, racists and misogynists were forced to the fringes of society until trump came along and gave them a feeling of legitimacy. they will repeat any lie rather than lose all that.
  12. The committee has both minimalist and maximalist aims. At a minimum, it needs to turn enough Americans away from the #biglie that it stops being the defining issue of the Republican Party, allowing the nation to stop litigating the last election and do what it’s failed to do for the first time in the country’s almost 250 years of democracy: transfer power peacefully and move on. Maximally, and simultaneously, the committee must show the American people its evidence indicting the former president on two federal charges: obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to defraud the United States. https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/06/10/january-6-committee-public-hearing-capitol-hill-donald-trump/
  13. You dodged my question in response to your allegation that I didn't watch his speech. Did you watch the House proceedings or not?
  14. "You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore." 'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore' "You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen." 'Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard' 'We are going to the Capitol' Dog whistling doesn't override the other quotes. ---------------------- He clearly knew there were people in that crowd who were ready to and intended to be violent, and he certainly did nothing to discourage that. He not only did nothing to discourage it, he strongly hinted it should happen. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55640437
  15. i listened to all of it live, and the people before him. i wouldn't participate in debate if i didn't know what was going on. How about you? Did you watch the entire House proceedings on Friday?
  16. Then he already knew that the rioters were already rioting and far from calling them to stand down he threw gasoline onto the fire.
  17. Pence-world’s final takedown of Trump’s Jan. 6 bid to remain in power revealed in his lawyer's memo Top adviser told the then-vice president that the courts would likely not support him if he gave in to Trump's pressure to delay certifying electoral votes. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/11/pence-trump-jan-6-lawyer-memo-00038996
  18. if they were serious they would follow the advice of both medical experts and climate change scientists and recommend not eating any red meat..
  19. The vote was done. he was appealing to known violent domestic terrorist groups to fight. there is no other reasonable interpretation. he even suggested Pence deserved to be hung. Furthermore, when it became clear that fighting was actually happening he refused to stop it.
  20. Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used
  21. Trump, as CIC, had a duty to prevent the riots and yet did not attempt to do so. Whatever you believe or not about his intent prior to the riots, his actions willfully aided ad abetted them.
  22. Your post is a deliberate distortion of the events and you are just torturing words. Supporters of the Jan 6 Insurrection are traitors. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html
  23. I don't see any way that Clarence Thomas gets to keep his job other than a poster boy for Russian scale state corruption. Can the Godfather remain on the Supreme Court?
  24. TV? The only TV I ever watched was cable in the Phils.
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