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No, she is specifically saying that the virus is going to be just like any of the other coronaviruses that cause the common cold: "These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top She is also saying that the virus will become less lethal, not more, as it mutates: “We normally see that viruses become less virulent as they circulate more easily and there is no reason to think we will have a more virulent version of Sars-CoV-2,” she said.

Are you vaccinated?

These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top Lol.

Lol, as Professor Gilbert has said it will just become a common cold. You got vaccinated for, well, what will be a common cold. "These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top

Why, the vaccinated don't keep infections to themselves. Or were you not aware that the vaccinated spread the virus? In fact since the vaccines only protect 49% against the Delta variant 51% of the vaccinated will spread the virus, more than half. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-covid-variant-and-less-likely-to-infect-others-study-finds/?sh=299660bd281c

Obviously you missed the part where she says: “If it changes its spike protein so much that it can’t interact with that receptor, then it’s not going to be able to get inside the cell. So there aren’t very many places for the virus to go to have something that will evade immunity but still be a really infectious virus,” she said. "These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top Either that or you don't understand what she's saying. She's saying the virus is running out of options, dangerous mutations are unlikely and it will be like a common cold.

I already did, see above, where you'll find this: "The new coronavirus is unlikely to mutate into a variant that can evade vaccines because there “aren’t very many places for the virus to go”, the creator of the Oxford jab has said. Dame Sarah Gilbert, speaking yesterday on a Royal Society of Medicine webinar, played down fears of a more deadly new variant. “We normally see that viruses become less virulent as they circulate more easily and there is no reason to think we will have a more virulent version of Sars-CoV-2,” she said. Gilbert suggested, however, that illness caused by the virus would become ever milder. She said: “We tend to see slow genetic drift of the virus and there will be gradual immunity developing in the population as there is to all the other seasonal coronaviruses.” These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” She argued that the spike protein targeted by vaccines had only limited ability to mutate while still allowing the virus to get inside human cells. “If it changes its spike protein so much that it can’t interact with that receptor, then it’s not going to be able to get inside the cell. So there aren’t very many places for the virus to go to have something that will evade immunity but still be a really infectious virus,” she said. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top

My quote of Gilbert was 100% accurate and supported by links. Kindly show where I misrepresented her, with an exact quote of what I said.

From your own link: "In today’s publication we used three different approaches to estimate the number of people experiencing long COVID symptoms. These show that between 3% and 12% of people infected with coronavirus have symptoms 12 weeks after the initial infection; or between 7% and 18% when considering only people who were symptomatic at the acute phase of infection." So indeed, all under 20%. Do you even read your own links?

Yes, in fact this pandemic is very much like the Spanish Flu pandemic, which had 4 waves. Once we see the fourth wave for Covid most likely that will be the last one and the virus will become a common cold, as Gilbert said.

Of course, everyone who subscribes to quality newspapers is a troll. Naturally.

No, the point rather is that if you were to be so unfortunate as to get a blood clot in the brain and have a stroke no amount of numbers vodoo would be a consolation, it's much harder to recover from a stroke than from what we are now told will be akin to a common cold. In fact 80% of people who have Covid have a very mild course of illness or are even asymptomatic. "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext

Not at all. Most estimates for Long Covid are way below 20%, however, in reality nobody really knows. The public health cost of not treating the much more numerous, much more serious health problems that have been put off to deal with, what we are now told will be a common cold, is in fact astronomical. Those who hysterically hype Covid have done so at the cost of millions of people who did not get much needed operations and treatment for serious illnesses other than Covid.

Actually it was a very strong statement to say the virus was running out of options and will be like a common cold. The writing is on the wall in terms of what the virus will become. If we've learned anything it's that it is never as bad as those who believe in worst case scenarios would have you believe.

Yes, and indeed well over 92% of people who have Covid survive it. In fact 80% have a very mild or asymptomatic course of illness. "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic " https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext

Not at all, I think you're not understanding what Gilbert said, she actually said the virus is running out of options. So the demotion to the common cold is very near at hand. It is not a very distant event 6000 years into the future. Read the article again. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top

Of course its relative to an unvaccinated person, no misinterpretation at all. Again, the study was linked to, I'll do it again for you. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-covid-variant-and-less-likely-to-infect-others-study-finds/?sh=299660bd281c

Sure, you know better than Professor Gilbert, the inventor of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, of course. How funny that all those who said it was like a common cold got shot-down by wise guys 18 months ago, only for top academic researchers now to turn around and say the same thing, Covid will be like getting a cold.

Again, clearly you fail to comprehend the simple fact that you can recover from Covid fairly easily, 80% of people who have it have mild or no symptoms. Whereas the odds of surviving a stroke from a blood clot in the brain are much smaller. You can't reduce everything to numbers. It's not just blood clots. Israeli researchers have found that Pfizer can cause heart inflammation. The EMA has just added a paralysis syndrome to the long list of side-effects and "adverse events". If you want to run that risk on the off chance of getting something which 97.1% of the population don't have, and which Professor Gilbert, who invented Astra-Zeneca, said will be effectively like a common cold, then it's your life. But don't pretend you can tell others what to do. Because it certainly looks like those who have decided not to vaccinate have made the right decision. If the virus is going to be like a common cold, if vaccines only protect 49% from infection but come with very serious side effects, and if natural immunity is stronger than vaccine immunity, why should anyone risk these very serious side-effects from the vaccinations?

I have not twisted what Professor Gilbert has said, I have in fact quoted it and provided the link to her statements. You are in fact misrepresenting my posts, which is indeed lame.

I'm very clearly about what I wrote: 1. Professor Sarah Gilbert, the inventor of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine has said that the virus will become more like a common cold: "Gilbert suggested, however, that illness caused by the virus would become ever milder. She said: “We tend to see slow genetic drift of the virus and there will be gradual immunity developing in the population as there is to all the other seasonal coronaviruses.” These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top 2. Natural immunity is longer lasting than vaccine induced immunity "Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 3. Vaccines only provide 49% protection against infection from the Delta variant "The researchers estimated that two doses of a Covid-19 vaccine are 49% effective at preventing infection with the delta variant, in line with recent data from Israel and much lower than previous estimates." https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-covid-variant-and-less-likely-to-infect-others-study-finds/?sh=299660bd281c Given the fact that only 2.9% of the world population even have the virus, meaning 97.1% do not have the virus, and given data form the Lancet that of those who have the virus 80% only have a mild or asymptomatic course of illness, hospitalisation of those who have it is only required in 14.2% of cases, and of those only 2.2% have to go to the ICU it is very clear that the risk of dying of Covid is considerably smaller than initially reported. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext Given that Professor Gilbert further underlines that the virus will be akin to the common cold indeed one has to conclude that those who have decided not to vaccinate got it right, and those who decided to vaccinate did so for very little protection against a very small risk, yet took on new risks. Clearly those who decide not to vaccinate have come out on top.

Sorry, I only speak English. Please try to maybe put your query in Dutch so I can understand it.

You have completely misrepresented my post. I wrote of those who go to hospital, ie of all hospitalised people 7.5% died, not those in the ICU only. It's not my fault if you can't read English, Roblok. I quoted 7.5% quite clearly above, and obviously it was of all cases.

This is about on a par, as outrageous lies go, as your repeated call for those who do not want to vaccinate to die, but nobody takes that seriously anyway. I had posted the links of all the statements I quoted quite carefully, nothing was misrepresented. You are misrepresenting my posts. If you had read the Lancet study properly you would have seen "Therefore, analyses were restricted to confirmed cases with complete data on underlying conditions.", which explains why they had a 7.5% death rate, whereas globally it is 1.9-2%.

As I made clear, you can not recover from a stroke caused by a clot in your brain. It is a fallacy that you can weigh that up with quantification. You can recover from covid easily. You can not recover easily from a stroke caused by a blood clot in the brain. If you think the risk of a blood clot in the brain, paralysis, heart inflammation etc is to be quantified away I disagree. That's why I told Roblok, it's not all about numbers. The seriousness of some of the side effects also needs to be considered.