JimCM

Your position misunderstands the reality faced by Palestinians in Gaza and the broader dynamics of displacement. First, the idea that Palestinians should just “voluntarily leave Gaza” ignores the fact that they are living in a territory under blockade, with restricted movement, limited access to basic necessities, and no viable options for relocation. Gaza is not simply a place where people can just “move somewhere else”; it’s a besieged enclave, where basic human rights are violated daily, and even attempts to leave are often thwarted by Israel’s military and political controls. Suggesting voluntary emigration also implies that Palestinians have the luxury of choice, which they do not. It's not just about "wanting to live elsewhere" - it’s about the fact that their homes and land are being systematically taken from them, their families torn apart, and their entire way of life under constant threat of erasure. What you’re proposing is not voluntary emigration; it’s an attempt to shift the blame onto the victims of an ongoing occupation, while denying them their right to resist. Calling it anything less than forced displacement is misleading. As for the term “genocide,” the intentional destruction of a people, their culture, and their way of life is exactly what has been occurring under Israeli policies in Gaza, even if not all forms of genocide involve mass killings. What we are witnessing is a deliberate campaign to dehumanize and displace a population- and that, by definition, meets the criteria of genocide. To suggest that Palestinians simply "move" is to disregard the systemic oppression that prevents them from doing so, and to ignore the realities of an ongoing crisis that they did not create. The real question here is why you’re more focused on scapegoating the victims of occupation than on addressing the actions of those responsible for their suffering.

Backing a state or military that engages in systematic human rights violations and war crimes, as documented by various international bodies, cannot and should not shield anyone from criticism or scrutiny. To defend such actions, or to ignore the suffering of those who are targeted, is to condone injustice. Supporting a government that perpetuates violence doesn’t make one immune from being held accountable for that complicity. The idea that someone’s identity or affiliations should protect them from facing the consequences of their support for violence and oppression is an affront to basic principles of justice.

So what if Hamas members were killed, it doesn’t give Israel the right to break international law.

Yes you are, it’s plain to see, there in black and white.

Oh, poor you. I suggest you watch the facts. Why would the truth upset you so much, do you support what Israel are doing? You do know what is happening- Gaza has been flattened and 10s of thousand of woman and children have been killed. Maybe you cover your eyes when deaths, starvation are in the news as it makes you fed up. Strange.

I agree. I’m now logging off 555

We need more prohibition, it worked in the good ol USA. Lets make guns legal too.

No, Chavalit or Big Jiew was PM during the Asian financial crisis in ‘97. Chuan Leekpai became PM after it in Nov 97.

Alcohol abuse and dependence causes far more misery and death to the user and family than any other substance, including heroin or ganja. Stricter controls are needed. Anutin cares more for profit than wellbeing of the people. Only alcoholics are rejoicing at this decree.

Nothing surprises me anymore regarding this monster. Israeli prime minister signs agreement to move ahead with expanded settlement plan that would bisect the occupied West Bank. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/11/israels-netanyahu-says-there-will-be-no-palestinian-state

This is simply not true, you are distorting the facts. It’s not accurate to say only the Arab side started the violence. History is much more complicated: 1948 (War of Independence / Nakba): Arab states rejected the UN partition plan and invaded. But for Palestinians, Israel’s founding meant mass displacement — over 700,000 fled or were expelled. From their perspective, Israel’s creation was the first act of aggression. 1956 (Suez Crisis): Israel, alongside Britain and France, launched a pre-emptive strike on Egypt to regain Western control of the Suez Canal. That wasn’t simply defensive. 1967 (Six-Day War): Israel struck first with a pre-emptive air assault on Egypt and Syria. Militarily justified perhaps, but undeniably aggressive in execution. Israel then occupied the West Bank, Gaza, Sinai, and Golan Heights — territories it still holds in part. 1973 (Yom Kippur War): Egypt and Syria attacked Israel, aiming to regain lost land. That time the Arab side did initiate war. 1987 & 2000 (First and Second Intifadas): Palestinian uprisings were sparked by decades of occupation and settlement expansion. Israel responded with overwhelming force, fueling more violence. Ongoing issues: Settlement growth, blockades in Gaza, targeted assassinations, and pre-emptive strikes show Israel has acted aggressively, not only defensively. So, yes, Arab states often rejected Israel’s legitimacy and used violence. But Israel has also taken aggressive steps, not just responses, that have prolonged conflict. To say “the Arabs started it” oversimplifies a long, tangled history where both sides have, at different times, chosen force over peace.

Yep, and pay back all taxes due.

There were many accusations at the time of Square head and Big Jiew benefitting from Tom Yam Kong, and in fact deliberately starting it by not defending the baht. Thaksin was surely involved, whatever position he held.

So you think Israel never started any of the conflicts, oh well. After the UN Partition Plan (1947), Zionist militias (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi) launched operations in Palestinian towns and villages before Israel declared independence in May 1948. Israel started the 1967 war, Israel launched pre-emptive strikes against Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. Israel occupied Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem, bringing millions of Palestinians under military rule. Since Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, Israel has launched multiple large-scale offensives: Operation Cast Lead (2008–09) Operation Pillar of Defense (2012) Operation Protective Edge (2014) Operation Guardian of the Walls (2021) Oh, and the Nakia. oh, and the 1982 Lebanon war. Oh, Suez crisis too in 1956.

Who started the previous ones?

If they succeed in their ethnic cleansing things will get bad. I blame scumbag Israeli cabinet ministers like Ben Gvir and Smotrich for stirring up hate. The minister of national security travelled to the holy site and prayed there with a reported group of 1,250 people. Police were pictured alongside Ben-Gvir. Under a delicate decades-old “status quo” arrangement with Muslim authorities, the al-Aqsa compound is administered by a Jordanian religious foundation and Jews can visit but may not pray there. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/aug/03/israel-gaza-war-live-netanyahu-hostage-video-famine-latest-updates-news When asked to describe his idea of an Israeli victory, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said he envisions Gaza being "completely destroyed" and its residents displaced. https://www.dw.com/en/israels-smotrich-says-victory-means-gaza-fully-destroyed/live-72452267

Of course and Israel will be suffering the consequences of their evil govt. for many decades

How many babies were actually killed. Israel have killed more babies under 1 year old than total civilians killed on Oct 7. https://www.savethechildren.net/news/gaza-20000-children-killed-23-months-war-more-one-child-killed-every-hour At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said.

Israel (and Biden) lied about many things - 40 beheaded babies, put in microwaves, raped etc, all our Israeli propaganda.

Which countries did you work and how long ago? The Middle East is diverse, and public opinion varies widely between countries, communities, and over time. Before claiming “no support whatsoever,” it is important to ask - are you fluent in the languages of the region, familiar with local media, and aware of the nuances of public opinion?

How many Israelis have died in this war compared to Palestinians?

Disgraceful - conflating the action of a couple of soldiers of the terrorist wing of Hamas to the peaceful religion of Islam. Surely this hate speech is against forum rules.

Israel is guilty of the same crimes against Palestinian civilians. Entire families have been wiped out in airstrikes, babies pulled from rubble, and hospitals bombed. If killing innocents makes a people untrustworthy, then Israel is equally guilty. As for Palestinians being “neither liked nor trusted” – that claim is false. Across the Middle East, public opinion surveys consistently show deep solidarity with the Palestinian cause. It is governments, often allied with Israel or the U.S., that are cautious – not the people.

It’s misleading to say Palestinians “refuse” a country. What has been offered historically were not viable, fully sovereign states - they were fragmented territories without real control over borders, resources, or security. No nation would accept an “independent” state under another’s military control. As for refugees, the answer is straightforward - Palestinians are still considered refugees because they were displaced from their original homes in 1948 and 1967, and the international community - through the UN - still recognizes that unresolved status. Living under limited self-rule in parts of the West Bank or Gaza does not make those areas a sovereign country, so their refugee claim remains. Palestinians have not rejected “a country” - they have rejected incomplete offers that deny genuine independence. And until they have a truly recognized state and their refugee rights addressed, they remain refugees under international law. The issue is not about Palestinians refusing peace - it is about them being denied a real and sovereign country. Refugee status continues because the root causes of displacement remain unresolved - borders, security, resources, and the right of return. Until Palestinians are offered genuine independence, it is inaccurate to claim they have simply refused a state. What they have rejected are partial deals that no people would accept as true freedom.

Since 1948, Palestinians have also endured mass displacement, occupation, land confiscations, and thousands of civilian deaths from Israeli military actions. To say Palestinians are uniquely defined by hatred ignores the reality of living under decades of occupation without equal rights or sovereignty. Settlements are not a defensive measure - they are illegal under international law and are built on occupied land that was supposed to form a Palestinian state. Expanding settlements does not make Israelis safer - it deepens resentment, fuels radicalization, and makes peace harder to achieve. If you ask how it feels to live next to people who want to destroy your country - imagine how it feels for Palestinians to live under military occupation, checkpoints, home demolitions, and settlement expansion. Both peoples deserve security - but security cannot come through domination. It can only come through a just peace that respects the rights and humanity of both Israelis and Palestinians.