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https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/delta-increases-covid-19-risks-pregnant-women-pfizerbiontech-vaccine-antibodies-2021-10-01/ "Six months after receiving the second dose of the two-shot vaccine from Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and BioNTech SE , many recipients no longer have vaccine-induced antibodies that can immediately neutralize worrisome variants of the coronavirus, a new study suggests."

Absolutely. If I was thinking of going back for 6-12 months then 2 weeks in Phuket would be no barrier. As you say, this is equally true for people wanting to back to business of family. But the system doesn't work for people who want to go to Thailand for "normal" vacations. I used to spend 3-4 months of the year in Thailand in stretches of 3-4 weeks at a time. That doesn't make sense now. There is also the problem of the government closing everything down. I could handle it when I spent a few months on Koh Chang, where I was just hanging out on the beach or in little places that were ignoring the rules. But it makes it a waste of time to visit a lot of other places in Thailand.

It is fine for people who are really keen to return to Thailand but too much for casual tourists. On top of the requirements for getting CoE, people have to consider whether they will get stuck somewhere, end up in hospital for 2 weeks of their holiday (if they test positive), will have to unexpectedly quarantine on their return etc. They will be wondering if anything will be open when they get there or whether things will shut down after they arrive. The situation is too uncertain. If you look at the way that conditions for lock downs are set up, world wide, on the basis of the dodgy PCR TEST, international travel isn't going to work. I expect a lot of our countries are going to collapse.

In accordance with fair use policy on the forum, I have quoted only three sentences from this article. What I wrote in bold is my own wording. https://www.propublica.org/article/the-cdc-only-tracks-a-fraction-of-breakthrough-covid-19-infections-even-as-cases-surge#1105875 On 1st May the American CDC (Center for disease control) decided they would only count "breakthrough infections" (infections in vaccinated people) where they led to hospitilization or death. "Meggan Ingram was fully vaccinated when she tested positive for COVID-19 early this month. The 37-year-old’s fever had spiked to 103 and her breath was coming in ragged bursts when an ambulance rushed her to an emergency room in Pasco, Washington, on Aug. 10. For three hours she was given oxygen and intravenous steroids, but she was ultimately sent home without being admitted."

There will be endless boosters for people who accept the jab system. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-vaccinated-are-worried-and-scientists-don-t-have-answers/ar-AANzgN7?ocid=uxbndlbing No one said that? I think a few people might have said that. Governments all over have implied it. They are running a scam. A few weeks turned into a QR code control grid for the rest of our lives.

It is so rare that they made a news article out of it, and yet even this guy had a pre-existing condition as evidenced by his blood pressure. You are not going to convince anyone to get the jab who refused it up to this point. The jabs don't stop Covid, they don't stop transmission, they don't stop serious illness from Covid, and they require boosters every few months supposedly to be effective. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-vaccinated-are-worried-and-scientists-don-t-have-answers/ar-AANzgN7?ocid=uxbndlbing If you want a permanent QR code control grid, with check points everywhere, good luck to you. That isn't for me.

What is the body mass index of un-jabbed people getting seriously ill allegedly from Covid? What other pre-conditions are they suffering from? By the end of 2020, “388 people aged under 60 with ‘NO underlying health conditions’ have died of Covid in England’s hospitals.” That’s official data, which is obviously rigged to begin with. The American CDC admitted they are ignoring "breakthrough infections" in fully jabbed people unless they are seriously ill. They are hoaxing the numbers. They are just lying when they imply that healthy children are at risk from Covid "there were no deaths" https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/06/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html Babies IQs dropped sharply during the pandemic. They are destroying people's future over a harmless flu. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

I will never take the jab despite restrictions. You can still travel most place by showing you have anti bodies. So you can go and get infected, get a PCR test as proof, and use that to travel. Covid isn't deadly. So I don't worry about catching it (again). They will coerce people, as they are doing, but they won't force vaccinate. They can't afford to force vaccinate people and then leave potential enemies free to roam about their lines. Being able to identify the unvaxxable is enough for them. They can effectively lock you out of society with the QR code control grid they are building.

No vax pass, no supermarket. They are coercing people into taking the jab.