Gonsalviz

i learned that you cant trust any thai women and that all thais are inferior to farang and that farang are not treated fairly by thais and that thais are horrible terrible people

Must have been reading the whining and complaining that the Brits call 'humour'.

Has anyone seen south Korea cleaning up there mess, they are probaly the worlds best, they pretty much all clean up mess after events

Haha Koreans freak out even if the end of the jeans is dragging on the ground. It 10 years ago it uses to be a dump. Now its like sparking clean. My cozens on the Korean counsel in Thailand and they have talks on these matter it's very likely they might use a few clean up methods in Thailand.

Only been to Seoul.^

Has anyone seen south Korea cleaning up there mess, they are probaly the worlds best, they pretty much all clean up mess after events

Never been to Japan.^

Gonsalviz - 9 or 10 rai? - I have zero experiance growing rubber, and very limited theoretical knowledge of it, but I can tell with some degree of certainty that 9 or 10 rai will not be wirth the effort you put into it.

Jungle - as in rural/isolated with good dense forestry type natural growth? - that would be far preferable, wouldn't it? Well, other than for the South Thailand, the more North and North East you move the more you will find what is dense and green in the wet months becomes very dry and barren in the dry months. Move towards Chang mai and Chang Rai and you get growth like that in the South - but with greater temp variation from season to season.

So - just what areas are you looking in(?) - sounds like you are confined (for some reason) to having to settle in some place. If circumstances permitt you to go property hunting in the Chang Rai region, you can find really rural original jungle type land, that is unspoilt, isolated and very attractive (nice and cool) - where you could put up a small house for very little and live quite peacefully.

As I said, I haven't bought yet. Also, I have never been to CM. Maybe in October I'll check it out.

I would gather that you have not spent much time in a rubber plantation. It would be the last place you would want to live. First it's hot and humid, with lots of mosqitoes in the wet season. Plus the tappers start tapping before anyone in his right mind would be up.

If you still want to live in a plantation I have a place you can rent dirt cheap and you will not be disturbed by neighbours as there isn't any JIM

I have spent quite a lot of time around rubber trees and making the mats and all. I know quite well what time the work starts. I don't have any plans to involve myself in it and plan to have a house with indoor plumbing.

I have always been associated with southern Thailand and I like the people, even their funny slangy way of talking. Most of the foreigners I know are around the southern resort areas. I don't want to be there, just close enough to go visit. No neighbors is my dream.

I only wish there was some jungle left.

I am sure this forum was set up to help people with legitimate questions and maybe to inject some nuances and humor.

But I am certain that it was not set up to entertain the whining and bickering that eventually takes a post in a completely different direction.

Like mama said," if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it."

i cant fathom having to live in america. its a souless place and money has nothing to do with it. the food is horrible. the religion. the lack of culture in the face of sheer consumerism. the government. jesus. i get the shakes just thinking about it. thank god i escaped at a young age.

HERE,HERE.

merely to live far from the beaten path............?

Then almost certainly not. Rubber margins (like most ag margins in Thailand) are so tight that anything less than a committed and professional approach (as well as a good understanding of the subject) is not ike to be successfull as a business. So - no, not likely.

But should this dissuade you from purchasing land in a rural area, and realising your dream to get out the rat race? No - I hope not, just that I think you should give some more thought to options that you can make a living from.

.....and even i thought you could make a business out of rubber trees, their are a whole bunch of questions that need some clarification - for example:

a) you don't say how much land it is?

you don't say what sort of lifestyle you would like to maintain (some ex-pats living in Thailand survive on next to nothing and are quite happy with that, others want a bit more than the basics)?

It really isn't as straightforward and as simple as you have put it...... come back with some additonal detail, in the meantime welcome to the farming section of the forum - theres a ton of advise and experiance(s) here which will go a long way to helping you realise your ambition. Best of luck

MF

I don't really need a job or even income. The land just has latex trees on it. Seems to be all I can find. Jungle would be better. Just wondering if there was any money in it. I haven't bought yet, but only looking at 9-10 rai.

I am sure only locals would be able to work it. I just figured they could add a little to their pockets. If there was any left over I could maybe afford an extra liter or 2 of fuel for my motorcycle.

I am purchasing some land (through a Thai of course) with latex trees on it merely because I want to live far from the beaten path.

Is it possible to create a business from this?

...In my case...

I believe you have not stated your case, at least not in this thread, and therefore I regrettably cannot answer your question.

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Maestro

Considering that the seasoned money will always be in place, am I, or am I not, able to travel out and back into Thailand while on a retirement extension without reapplying for another retirement extension each time I return?

1. From the end of the current permission to stay.

2. The change of visa is always a change to the equivalent of a single-entry non-immigrant visa (fee 2,000 Baht) and is available only if the applicant meets the requirements for an annual extension of stay, except that the requirement for seasoning of funds in the bank, where applicable, will need to be met only on the date of the subsequent application for extension.

3. You will have to start all over again. There have been cases where in exceptional circumstances an immigration office accepted an application for annual extension earlier than 30 days before the expiration of the permission to stay, and this avenue should certainly be explored when the need arises.

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Maestro

I am unclear on point 2.

In my case, I will need to travel out of Thailand each 90 days or so for approximately 90 days. My location outside of Thailand will make it impossible to obtain a 3 month visa each time I come back. The 800,000 will be in the bank the entire time. Is it possible to apply for a re-entry visa before I leave?

I guess I am trying to circumvent the 2,000 Bt fee everytime I come back.

I do not have a Thai spouse and I have a US passport if this helps.

If you got this impression from reading other posts then the poster probably wrote retirement visa when he meant retirement extension (happens all the time). So-called piggy-backing, known as extension of stay as a dependant, is available for some relatives of the holder of certain types of extension (see paragraph 7.19 of Royal Thai Police Order No. 606/2549)

The website of the Thai consulate in Hull says nothing about piggy-backing. At any rate, for definitive information on extensions of stay it is preferable not to rely on information posted on the websites of consulates but instead to refer to the aforementioned Police Order. Consulates deal with visas, immigration offices with permissions and extensions of stay, and from experience it appears that neither of the two are very knowledgeable about the work being done by the other.

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Maestro

Although I have spent many years dealing with Thai authorities, I am surely getting the bigger picture.

Thanks again,

Somewhere I read that a spouse may piggy back on the others retirement visa.

This attachment has a stipulation of the piggybacker having to do 90 day visa runs. It is from the Thai immigration dated July 07.

Is this still in effect?

Thai_Retirement_Requirements.pdf

Maybe this thread will give you some guidance.....

Thanks

Yes, absolutely. If you meet the requirements for the extension of stay based on retirement (see paragraph 7.21 of the Royal Thai Police Order No. 606/2549), with at least 21 days remaining on your permission to stay go to your local immigration office in Thailand, apply for a change of visa to non-immigrant visa (cost 2,000 Baht), then apply for your annual extension of stay for retirement (cost 1,900 Baht).

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Maestro

1. In this case, is the non-immigrant visa good for 90 days after you recieve it or from the original date of entry?

2. Then, can I apply for a multi entry annual extension? What is the fee?

3. If I happen to not be in country at the time of the annual extension time, can I notify immigration some other way or will I have to start all over again?

Somewhere I read that a spouse may piggy back on the others retirement visa.

This attachment has a stipulation of the piggybacker having to do 90 day visa runs. It is from the Thai immigration dated July 07.

Is this still in effect?

Thai_Retirement_Requirements.pdf

Yes, absolutely. If you meet the requirements for the extension of stay based on retirement (see paragraph 7.21 of the Royal Thai Police Order No. 606/2549), with at least 21 days remaining on your permission to stay go to your local immigration office in Thailand, apply for a change of visa to non-immigrant visa (cost 2,000 Baht), then apply for your annual extension of stay for retirement (cost 1,900 Baht).

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Maestro

That certainly makes things handier.

Thanks

40,000 baht a month income for a married visa. 800,000 in a bank in Thailand for retirement visa, or 65,000 baht a month income.

May I ask you, for a Canadian, farang married couple, aged 62 and 66,

is there still the option available, of showing 1.6million, cash at bank, certified by bank plus evidence of that amount being in the account for at least 3 months prior to the retirement visa renewal date?

it used to be certificate of cash at bank, OR certificate of monthy/yearly income. what happens if you have the 1.6 million in the bank but you do not have 130,000 baht a month income? thanks, Paddy.

The requirement for you 2 would be 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank OR 65,000 Baht a month income.

Only one of you need to meet the requirements. The other one "piggy backs" on the other spouses extension.

Thai_Retirement_Requirements.pdf

In a closed thread, someone said you can come into the country on a tourist visa and go to immigration to obtain an O visa for the intent of obtaining a retirement visa.

Is this possible?

I walked into Kasikorn Bank in Patong. They asked for a work permit and I told them I did not work there. Why would I need a work permit?

I did have a Thai national friend's address and a copy of his house registration, a copy of his ID card and his phone number. They called him to verify me. I had a 30 day tourist pass.

I got a bank account and a Visa debit card.

Is there such a thing as a decent pickup in Thailand that has an automatic transmission?

Nothing special, 4X2.

Put 4 monkeys in a cage. Hang a banana and put a ladder below it.

When a monkey tries to get the banana spray the other 3 with cold water.

Repeat until none tries for the banana.

Remove one monkey and put in another. When he tries for the banana the others will attack him.

Remove another monkey. When he tries for the banana the other 3 will attack him.

Continue removing monkeys until none of the monkeys are the original 4.

Now, when any monkey tries to get the banana he will be attacked but none will know the reason they are attacking and the one trying

for the banana has no idea why he is being attacked.

Which explains why anyone new at your job asks why things are done a certain way, everyone says "It's always been done that way."

And it never changes.

Sound familiar?

For what? With what qualifications? Work? Thai spouse? Tourist?

Well, I plan to to retire there soon (US Passport), Spouse is Malaysian. For a while, in preparation, I just plan to stay for 3 months at a time. She, full time, except for whatever visa runs required.

No residence in Malaysia.

What would be the type of visa for the longest stay in Thailand and how long could one stay? Anybody know?

Thanks again.

I just like to make sure I don't get any government hassles.