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4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:Wrong. Corbyn bottled it again.
Corbyn made clear his priority is preventing a no-deal Brexit. His actions are aligned with his priorities.
Johnson claims he wants an election. But he’s refusing to get an extension which would easily get him his election. He’s clearly the one who’s playing games. Nothing new here.
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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:Corbyn hasn't got the stones for an election, he knows he'd lose.
He could easily pass a law to mandate the date of the election for before Brexit, but he'd rather pretend that the reason for not having the election is because Johnson would take us out first. Not only cowardly then, but dishonest. Oh, and he's a Leaver pretending to be a Remainer, with no coherent policy on Brexit. What a mess.
Johnson could easily get an extension and parliament including Corbyn would happily agree to an election. It’s pretty clear that Johnson is the one who doesn’t want an election and is just trying to use it to force through a no-deal Brexit. One of his pathetic scam attempts; everyone can see it.
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8 minutes ago, Basil B said:As much as it sounds a good idea, it is up to Boris to request, if Corbyn went knocking on doors in Europe they would not even offer him a cup of tea...
Yes, that’s why I wrote “Johnson” and not “Corbyn”. He can request an extension now and I’m pretty sure parliament including Corbyn would agree to an election. Johnson could even trigger a confidence vote if he was really that interested in an election. It’s all just a big farce; a typical Johnson scam.
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Should the UK ever leave the EU, it will do so as a broken country. And and I’m not even talking about the economy; that will go on top.
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16 minutes ago, vogie said:
You have lost the debate, there is no need for playground behaviour.
...says the one who’s just been caught spreading lies ????
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1 minute ago, vogie said:
I can assure you that if I required a masterclass in debating (or democracy for that matter) remainers would be the last people I would ask.
You require a masterclass in sticking to the truth.
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10 minutes ago, vogie said:
Just to make it clear to you as you seem to be hankering for an arguement.
When I said parliament that is exactly what I meant, at least the Lib/Dems and the Greens have been openly honest about saying that they would not honour another referendum if leave won again. But this brings us to the other duplicitious MPs like Grieve, Soubry, Cooper and Letwing, Benn and all the other deceitful MPs who cannot be honest with themselves or the electorate for that matter, these people want to stymie Brexit and have no interest in democracy whatsoever.
So you don't need a political degree to see this, it is parliament!
And when you start calling my posts lies, it is the end of our conversation, don't forget what Socrates said "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
If you don’t want to be called a liar, don’t lie. It’s that simple. You claimed parliament said something it never did. Now you admit it was only two minority parties.
You lied and I’m calling you out for that. And as long as you and other Brexiteers keep lying, you better not cite Socrates and talk about how to have a debate.
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33 minutes ago, vogie said:
I have news for you, the Greens and the Lib/Dems belong to parliament, it is not "false information" just because you say it is, anyone who calls for a second referendum wants to stifle the first referendum.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Now away with your nonsense, I'm not interested.
You didn’t say “the Greens and the Lib/Dems”, you clearly claimed “the parliament” has stated it would ignore a new referendum. That’s a lie.
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3 hours ago, vogie said:
A second referendum that parliament have openly said they would not honour unless remain won, democracy remainer style, brilliant.
Parliament didn’t say that. Please stop spreading false information.
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27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
Wait until
How often have we heard this over the last three years... ????
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On 9/24/2019 at 6:27 PM, vogie said:
It will not re-open tomorrow, Boris has the keys and he is out of the country.
Oopsie!
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If Johnson really wanted an election as much as he pretends, he could just ask the EU for an extension and all parties would happily agree to an election. It’s pretty clear it’s just another of his scams.
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how about the public taking Parliament to court for proroguing 3 years of not respecting the wishes of the majority vote.
I’ve asked this question Brexiteers before but never ow got an answer. So tell me: why are you not going to court instead of all the moaning and whining and ranting? Because you know very well that the referendum wasn’t legally binding, parliament is acting according to constitutional laws, and only Brexiteers are breaking them. Ever since all the lies and false promises, the whole of Brexit is built on exactly not playing by the rules. And that’s the only way it can survive.
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50 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
I repeat, it was a political decision and as such, not justiciable
It is justiciable. The Supreme Court just ruled on that.
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(...) there's not a shred of evidence to support this.
Again a Brexiteer appears completely uninformed. I guess reading things that are longer than a lie on a bus is not their strength.
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1 hour ago, yogi100 said:
Don't you mean listen 'to' yourself.
There are several entries on Wikipedia relating to ‘The Establishment’ and a book called The Establishment And How They Get Away With It.
If you're unfamiliar with the term it refers to a group of elite, wealthy and influential people who have the final say about issues that affect our daily lives.
I have to disappoint you. Laws apply to everyone, even Johnson and his wealthy and influential Eton buddies trying to have the final say about how politics work. It’s good that there are courts that uphold the rule of law and stop the Elite from putting themselves above the law.
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6 minutes ago, yogi100 said:The judges and the Establishment are the ones breaking a moral law and code of honour by having done all they can for three years to defy that demand made by the British people who employ the MPs and judges.
Protecting the rule of law is a very moral and honorable thing. Much more so than the attempt to
overturn it because a group of people have demands but no majority.
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3 minutes ago, evadgib said:
I have no idea what's coming but BJ may as well blow the cobwebs off this.
If he can secure Robin Tillbrook as his lawyer, everything is possible. Any news about the UK having left already but the MSM is just not telling anyone?
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1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:
It was 11-0. There is no ambiguity in that.
What you going to do now?
Appeal to the EU courts?
Throwing the same tantrum as with the referendum: We don’t care about laws. We are above the law.
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24 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:Well, looks like the NWO and Bilderburg Group agents have got their way (not surprising really). As for unlawful, how about giving us a sodding election as that's what's needed? However, the criminals passing themselves off as MPs are scared they will no longer be able to deny us our right to vote. The tentacles of the EU/NWO and it's affiliates indeed are long.
Living under the rule of law must be difficult when you don’t like the laws. Not sure if ranting and conspiracy theories help.
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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:All the legal experts on Sky now are saying how shocked they are at the verdict.
The likes of Robin Tilbrook caliber who make desperate armchair lawyers in this forum believe the UK has actually left already? ????
3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:If the courts are seen to be biased (which this judgement has proved to be the case) then things could get ugly.
The wet dreams of a Brexiteer. Will you throw barstools in Pattaya?
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57 minutes ago, IssanMichael said:Do you have more detail as to the damage?
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What’s Cummings’ next genius move? Declaring a coup?
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3 minutes ago, JAG said:The people of the UK voted to leave. Full stop. Remember the question that was asked : " Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" No other promises or qualifying statements.
The people of the UK need to accept the rule of law and that it applies for everyone regardless you like the result or not.
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Corbyn says priority is preventing no-deal Brexit
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Oh, I’m just looking at the facts. What Corbyn does is in line with what he says. What Johnson does is not in line with what he claims. Again, no surprise here. We know him.