OOTAI

Here's my thoughts.

1 rai = 1600m² and 80 rai = 128000m². So to irrigate the 80 rai to a depth of 50mm the 1 rai pond would need to be 4m deep to hold enough water and that would only provide enough to flood it once.

As for yield my wife and her cousin just harvested 6.5rai and got 103tonne of cane. So between 15 and 16 tonne per rai, they received 1250 baht per tonne. It was the first years crop so the next couple should yield more. They are located in Burinam.

Last year she planted cassava at the end of the rainy season and then because it didn’t rain she needed to provide the plants with some water. We went and bought a small pump (Honda I think) together with some sprinklers and flexible hose to run them out. We had 3 sprinklers each capable of 200 litres per minute to match the pumps capability of 600 litres per minute. We had enough hose to run from my water source to the edges of the fields she wanted to irrigate. The sprinklers covered a 25m diameter circle so the total area covered by each sprinkler was 490m². So the 3 of them if you consider overlap probably covered ¾ of a rai each move and it took 2 days to water the 8 rai. If you used the same system on 80rai then you would need to pump 6400m³ or 6.4 million litres (for a coverage depth of 50mm) which at 600 litres per minute would take about 8 days pumping 24 hours a day.

In the end do I think it was worth it, answer “no”, but it did help pass some time and we have used them to water the bananas since. I think that sprinklers would give a better distribution of the water unless the land is terraced paddy, if it’s not then the water would need to be controlled to ensure coverage over the whole field.

MRnell

It may be possible that he knows what he is doing as far as drilling but does he know about where the water might be.

I would suggest that when you try again you do 2 things:

1. See if the driller you get will agree to guaranteed water or no money

2. You have done as much research beforehand to identify the best location for drilling the bore. By this I mean ask any neighbours who have bores how deep they had to go to get water, if they tell you 41m you may be able to go down the previous hole. The driller you used (with his old rig) may not be able to drill deeper than 40m. I would map all the surrounding bores and see if they form "lines" which may then help point to a "best" location.

You may have to get a drilling contractor who has the capability to drill to a much greater depth than the guys can with their simple drills on the back of a pickup.

Sorry I can't help with a recommedation for a driller and wish you all the best in your search.

in post #28 Ozzydom said

Year after year I see surrounding paddies harvested then left to dry and compact until the next rainy season is imminent ,when they burn any remaining stubble ,wait until the soil is wet enough to work,put the discs over it and plant within days using seed held back from the last harvest .IMO a sure recipe for low yields.

Made me laugh as I have seen the same thing year after year. As I am home (here in Thailand) for a few weeks I thought that this would be a good time to do what i always wanted to do and that is to get the organic material back into the soil. Last year I spent a lot of time making larger paddies (15 become 5) so now each paddy is almost 2.4 each. At the time she said why are you spending all this money on fuel? I pointed out to her that I had increased the usable land area by 2 rai, which based on an estimated cost of B20,000 meant I had "paid" B10,000 per rai. I asked her would you buy land for that, the answer "Of course im not stupid"

Anyway as soon as harvest was done I waited a week to hopefully let the ground dry a little more and then. "Where are you going darling?" "Going down to plough the paddies".

Of course I have now been banned from leaving the house after getting bogged to the axles 3 times in 2 days. The reason because is she's embarrassed by all the village talking about her mad husband who wouldn't listen when he was told the ground is still too wet. I tried to explain that I only have a small window of opportunity to plough the straw in before someone does what they do every other year and set it on fire.

So I will persevere and hopefully overcome one day, if not when they burn me up at the Wat they can all have a laugh about the mad farang that came to town and perished but never stopped trying doing things differently.

I keep telling her that farming is not my "real"job only my hobby, mind you being bogged wasn't much fun.

I should add that this year we got a 50% increase in the amount of rice from the land compared to last year. Probably still only worked out at about 400kg per rai so progress by small steps.

Just so those who I met at IA place know that i am not always just a lurker I thought I should post a reply especially to say thanks to Isaan Aussie and Jim who spent quite a bit of time talking with me and I'm sure i will get to see again one day when i get back to thailand again. Making this post from the Bali airport on the way back to work. I must say that i was most impressed by what I considered to be an odourless pigsty.

Thanks mister Isaan Aussie

I just figure that no matter what I do I will still get "cheated" somewhat. Provided I still make reasonable returns I am not to worried about it, if they start to take the piss that's when we will sell. Thus far the everything appears to be above board but until the rubber starts to flow its difficult to know how the fam damily will behave.

My missus looks after evrything for us as of course I'm not allowed to own anything and she has 3 brothers and 5 sisters (1 no longer with us) and she trusts not one of them. She is always telling me that i trust too many people too much of the time. As for the above statement about "until the rubber starts to flow", I think you shoulkd re-read Jim's comment (analogy) of the tree growing money not rubber and then you may understand that no-one cares about rubber but money now that's a different matter.

I can't believe it. I was actually visiting this Thai Visa forum to track down one of his threads to re-read some information on pig farming he had so graciously offered, to be hit with this news of his passing. A real shock, and it must be said, a great loss to this Thai farming forum. He was so very active in his participation here, and his breadth of knowledge and willingness to offer help and advice will be badly missed.

I feel absolutely gutted. Although my direct experience of Fruity has been limited and only relatively recent, I must say I feel a great loss. His contributions to the two threads I initiated were immense, but I guess that can be said of so many of the threads he contributed to here. His love of pigs shone through the series of responses and contributions to those threads, and with it, much of his admirable qualities and character as a man. Despite such a short and distant acquaintance I feel such a loss.

My commiserations to his family. And to you too Isaan Aussie, as it clear he was such a good friend and mentor to you.

R.I.P. Fruity. You'll be so missed.

In my opinion charlie has said it all for me already. The only thing i would add is if I could choose how I was to go, it would be such as this. One day doing what you love and the next.................

RIP Fruity

Thank you WatersEdge,

Your last post is save to the disk ...

Sorry for pulling you down to my level

RBH

RBH don't apologise to him as I reckon he's not really an Engineer. Engineer's are not meant to be very good with words and I loved that last post of his, especially the bit about how the yanks still insist in maintaining the imperial measurement system and then proceeded to go metric.

Watersedge I congratulate you that was one of the most humourous posts I have read.

Now in all seriousness I have a question for you. In the pdf file from engineers without borders they provided some factors for de-rating the pipes in regard to temperatures. Do you have any experince in this regard of do you bury your pipelines. I was amazed that at 38 degrees they suggest you de-rate the pipe by a factor of 0.61. If you did that then a 8bar rated pipe would be rated less than 5bar.

It truly boggles the mind.

"ONLY IF YOU HAVE ONE"

There are no performance curves available with pumps here either.

As customcurb mentioned, only the spec tag on the pump is available.

How do you know where the peak efficiency is?

I suppose the peak efficiency of the pump is of small concern

when so much greater energy is blown on friction.

In searching for the TIS Pipe Specs yesterday,

I chanced upon the Engineers Without Borders paper on Water Guidelines

http://ewb-usa.org/d...lines_Final.pdf

It is a lot of information under one cover.

Watersedge the guidelines are great, thanks, I am not sure what will happen when people see the equations towards the end!

As for obtaining a pump curve, if you have the pump make and model just gooogle it, that's what I did.

As for understanding peak efficency of a pump and reading the pump curves anyone can google "reading pump curves" and there are a myriad of sites to look at some do a very good job of explaining in layman's terms.

Just this week the missus has been installing some pipes for watering the garden, I insisted on 1inch pipe and she spat the dummy as we had some 1/2inch already. Why do you want to buy more? My answer "because!" I have given up trying to get her to understand the tradeoff between initial capitol spend and ongoing operating costs. I suppose I could have been nasty and asked why we had the small pipe in the first place (she over-ordered on a previous job) but thought better to leave the scene intact.

I think if you do a search of this forum then there are plenty of posts that detail what you should be looking for such as title type, access, water, power depends on what you want it for, are you always only going to grow rice? Around here (Buriram) the current is B50,000 per rai for paddy. Someone just bought 40 rai on Highway24 just down the road for B2million and it had to be cleared of old regrown eucalytus trees and stumps but I believe it will make good Cassava growing land.

Just remember the seller will want as much as possible so haggle. I have never ever bought anything without being willing to walk away from it if needed. I usually get the missus to offer 50% to 60% of what they are asking as a starting point but I always have a pre-determined point where I won't go any higher.

welhaven

As Isaanaussie says you need to keep the suction head i.e. the vertical distance the water level is below your pump, as small as possible. Most pumps struggle if they have a high suction head. Given that you need to make sure that your pump is located above the flood level so it doesn't go under each year.

To work out the size of the pump you will need you first need to work out the TOTAL energy or head needed. Each piece of pipe, each bend, each join adds energy loss to the sytem that you need to supply at the pump to get the water out the other end. So I would try and design you system to determine how many of each of these things you are going to have and then go to a supplier (or use Google) and get the energy loss for each piece. the loss will be expressed as "equivalent head loss in metres" once you have these numbers you can add them all together and get the ebergy in equivalent vertical head. You can then find a pump and ask the supplier for the "pump curve for that pump. The graph is normally vertical head on the vertical axis and flow rate (in litres) on the horizontal axis. You use your calculated number and find it on your pump curve the number of litres for that head is the the horizontal axis.

Different diamater pipe will have different energy loss equivalent metres, as will 90degree bends compared to 45 degree. If you can buy pipe in 100m rolls that is better than 4m lengths which give you 100 joins (each adds more loss of energy). If you can go with the bigeest diameter pipe you can (usually cost is the restriction). don't put a 1inch valve in a 3inch line etc etc. If you are going to irrigate with sprinklers then I would suggest having valves strategically placed so you can break it up into sections which get watered individually. That is a system that requires water for 40 sprinklers needs 4 times the water if only 10 are on at any one time hence a smaller pump because you have a smaller flow rate required.

It is not rocket science and I suggest (if you haven't already) you read past threads here on irrigation and the pinned one on Boreholes. Maisefarmer has in the past given some very detailed explanations on this subject.

Just keep posting your questios and I'm sure someone will point you in the right direction and before long you will be the forum's expert.

Good Luck

Isaanaussie

I didn't want to quote your last post but I seemed to have stuffed that up by hitting the wrong button.

My question to you, as someone who seems to do a lot of research on what is available and coming up with innovative ways to use same, is whether you know of any machine that just cleans rice. I posed this question in another post and pnusted replied but didn't really answer that bit specifically. As I see it hand cutting eliminates most of the weed material that the harvestors pick up but then you still get some straw when the handcut rice is put through the threshing machine. I am of the opinion that if the thresher part could be taken of then rice cut by harvestor could be fed through the cleaning section that is left behind. I hope that what I have written makes sense but I remember years ago in Australia Hannaford used to have "graders" travelling around the country cleaning and grading the wheat. Do you know what the people who buy the paddy rice do/use to clean the "trash" out of the rice?

As for drying the rice I "like" the nets especially when they spread all over the roads.

The rice farmers are experiencing a shortage of labor for the manual harvest in many areas. Thus the self propelled machines are being used (rented) even though very few farmers have ample rice acreage to pay for one themselves. The threshing of the grain when hand cut does not require that many laborers and can many times be done at a more leisurely pace. I am surprised that no one has introduced a binder machine which could be pulled by the iron buffalo and shocks of straw with grain could be thrashed manually.This would be ideal for the small rice paddy and would only require a 3 man harvest team.

With the migration of potential farm help to the cities, the 10 to 20 rai farmer would appear to be eventually doomed in Thailand, unless an affordable semi mechanized system can be established. Otherwise the custom harvestors will be the norm within the next generation or so.

There are reaper/binder attachments for the iron buffalos here that cut and tie bundles of rice. I cant remember the pricing other than it seemed reasonable at the time. There is also a range of smaller dedicated machines from Japan that do the same thing at considerable higher prices.

I agree completely that this form of harvesting for the small land holder is a practical alternative for the future. If not for the amount of water left in our low lying rice paddies at harvest and problems of lodging we have each year as a result, this is the way I would go. After looking at the amount of rubbish in the rice cut by machine near us, I decided to go manual and hired a team of people.

I doubt it will take a generation as the change to mechanisation is rapid. It is already must cheaper than manual harvesting and the number of machines around increasing. As the skill level of the operators improves no doubt so will the quality of the rice and the current price penalty for machine cut rice will decrease.

I have a metal gathering frame which attachs to the cutting head on my brush cutter. I used it last year to good effect. With a little practice you can sweep up a bundle of rice and lay it out on top of the stubble so it is easy to gather up. As a newbie against skilled hand cutters I managed to cut about twice the amount they did. Whilst I would think about using this cheap level of technology it is almost impossible to use on lodged rice.

One thought for the future is to develop some alternative for drying rice other than the blue nets used today. If farm wastes could be used for heat, such as gasifiers burning rice hulls or coconut husk then a drum drier would be good taking less time and considerable less space.

Isaan Aussie

Id be interested to know what type of Rice Combine Harvester machine cost 2.5 million baht?

This type

BTW - I see the DC95 is equipped to offload rice into a lorry, does it also have a sacking facility?

pnustedt

The 2 that cut the rice for my SIL last week didn't have any sacking facility that I could see.

Just one question though, the rice that was harvested by these DC95's seemed to me to be very "dirty" as in they had a lot of what I would call trash in amongst the rice. Is there any way that this can be minimised? In this case the "trash" was a combination of weed matter and rice straw. From what I observed (and this is the first time I have watched rice being harvested) the guys operating the harvetsors were driving too fast whever they had a straight run of 20m or so. I know that they get paid by the rai so it is their best interest to go as fast as possible but to me it would result in the feed into the "thresher" part of the harvestor would be too great for it to get cleaned well.

Do you know if it is possible to purchase a machine that will clean the trash out of the rice? Hopefully something that will not cost me the other arm as I lost the first one when I married my Thai wife, if I lost the other one then I would be "armless" and I don't want that.

Guys I wouldn't worry about IA I think he's been sniffing too much of the methane his pigs are producing. I'm an Aussie and it went over my head as well.

However I was impressed to read that Julia refused to attend church which to me in commendable as politicians usually don't wrry about being hypecritical(spelling??).

Also IA I have never heard the expression "Six axehandles across the acre" but have heard "Six axe handles across the shoulders" which means he a big mother so don't mess with him.

As for those people who had the misfortune to not be born in Aussie I suggest you should read "They're a Weird Mob" by Nino Cullatto (I think??) it is a good guide to the "Aussie" language.

IA did the pigs make better sense than the locals? I would think they would.

hi,

another topic, I have bought 17 rai -->600000 baht, that's mean each rai cost 35000 baht. What do you think about this price for a Sor por kor land located near Buriram ?

I've read some people have bought each rai 10000 baht.

Regards.

steph14

I wouldn't worry about what you read because its what you actually pay that is real. My missus just paid B49000 per rai (we're in Buriram). The price is determined by what someone will pay. In her case it adjoined land she already owned and she was the one asking if was for sale so they knew they could charge a premium.

She has paid anywhere from B12000 per rai up to B100000 per rai (she really wanted the 4 rai).

The other thing is if your wife was happy to pay that then she should know what land is being sold for in the area as Thai's are always talking about everyone else's business.

My suggestion if you are worried about leaving it for a year is to plant a few trees around the block and then if anyone asks you are testing what grows best where before you do the serious planting in a year's time (or later if the trees grow slowly).

THE lessons for building anything, anywhere:

Be completely fair & more than explicit in your expectations via professionally-prepared drawings, specs and contract. Then, during construction, never let the builder get ahead of you money-wise as the work progresses, as you lose all your leverage and they tend to lose motivation. If you have to go to lawyers/court - only the lawyers/court win. If you stay ahead on money, the builder will remain amazingly responsive!

Now, the in's and outs of being able to maintain your footing in relation to the above Lessons are the stuff of contract law, construction management and architectural college coursework and years of nose-bloodied experience. They can't be taught via web forums, else building construction would be undertaken by Girlscouts for merit badges. And based on the stakes and risks involved in building construction projects, this is why a good architect and owner's rep construction manager can easily more than cover their fees via a great set of construction documents, keeping you ahead in the cashflow, successful defenses against change orders and avoided legal claims.

Over the past 2 years I think I have read most of the posts about building a house in Thailand on this and many other forums. My wife is also almost finished building her dream house here in Buriram. The post quoted above is the single most informative and truthful statement I have read. If anyone was to follow this advice to the letter then i believe they would have a succesful outcome. My wife did almost all of the above and there have been some issues which wouldn't have arisen if she had struck to the above advice.

Thank you bbradsby.

In July 2009 I bought Thai gold (bullion ) at B14900 expecting the price of gold to appreciate with the decline in the dollar and also I expected the Thai baht to depreciate against the Thai baht giving me a double whammy but alas I have to be content with just making a profit I suppose.

Thai bullion is sold as baht per Baht with one Baht of gold being 96% and slightly more than half a troy ounce.

Lots of interesting strategies and facts on this thread...

:lol:

cloudhopper, naam

The truthful bit that I posted earlier "This statement shows why it is important for people reading these forums, to not place too much credence on the expertise of the posters" is only reinforced by my own stupidity. Maybe if I had said "the Thai baht to depreciate against the US dollar" and "that 1Baht is slightly LESS tahn half a troy ounce" it may have made sense. Just enjoy the laugh at my expense as, because I don't drink I can't blame being drunk as an excuse, so I can only confess to being stupid because I don't check my posts before hitting the "add reply " button.

This statement shows why it is important for people reading these forums, to not place too much credence on the expertise of the posters. Early last December gold in Thailand was B18600 when it peaked (at the time) at US$1180. Gold right now is US$1298 but is only B18700 so while gold has gone up in US$'s it is relatively stable in Thai baht due to the efect of the currency depreciation/appreciation.

Are you quoting the buy or selling price? Are you referring to baht gold, which is 22k (96%) or bullion, which is 24k (99.9%)? And I beg to differ on the relative stability of baht gold vs. baht currency. As recently as a few years ago, 1 baht gold was about 12,500 baht currency (about 1/3 less than today). My partner tells me of days when it was less than that. While I might be mistaken, aren't gold prices are on a worldwide basis, regardless of currency?

Spee

What I was trying to point out was the error of your statement see below.

"Let's also keep in mind that the drooping dollar is driving the cost of gold through the roof. Haven't checked lately but it's probably close to 20k ThB for 1 baht gold. Many Thai people use gold as both savings and currency, not to mention sinsod and other aspects of the culture."

While the weak American dollar means that an "American ounce of gold is now priced at US1298. The strong Thai baht means that one Thai Baht of gold (bullion not jewellery) now costs B18700. In aerly december the prices were US1180 and G18600 respectively. So you are wrong in saying that the price of goldis going through the roof, it may well be doing so in US$'s but not in Thai baht. And if you understood the pricing of Thai gold and the fact that it reflects the currency exchange element you would undertsand why, after all this thread is aboutthe "weak American dollar and its impact on Thailand".

As for your statement about the price of years ago I might ask was that a time of a strong dollar? If you are really serious about understanding the relationship between gold and dollars and baht find a graph showing gold price in US$'s versus one showing gold price of Thai gold in Thai baht it will clearly show the depreciation of the dollar against the baht.

In July 2009 I bought Thai gold (bullion ) at B14900 expecting the price of gold to appreciate with the decline in the dollar and also I expected the Thai baht to depreciate against the Thai baht giving me a double whammy but alas I have to be content with just making a profit I suppose.

For your information the price in Thailand for buying gold, bullion or jewellery can be found at the website "goldtraders.co.th"

Thai bullion is sold as baht per Baht with one Baht of gold being 96% and slightly more than half a troy ounce. It should also be remembered that the exchange rate is taken into account when the Goldtraders Association of Thailand set their price each day but I have yet to determine an exact number to use to convert the price from US$'s to thai baht. The buying rate for 1 Baht of Thai bullion gold is also 100 baht higher than the selling price which is the commision the gold shop makes.

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Let's also keep in mind that the drooping dollar is driving the cost of gold through the roof. Haven't checked lately but it's probably close to 20k ThB for 1 baht gold. Many Thai people use gold as both savings and currency, not to mention sinsod and other aspects of the culture. People that have gold as savings may be inclined to sell it now while it is high. Some people that want to buy gold perhaps now cannot afford it. Not saying this is totally good or totally bad. It's just another way the weak dollar indirectly affects Thailand.

This statement shows why it is important for people reading these forums, to not place too much credence on the expertise of the posters. Early last December gold in Thailand was B18600 when it peaked (at the time) at US$1180. Gold right now is US$1298 but is only B18700 so while gold has gone up in US$'s it is relatively stable in Thai baht due to the efect of the currency depreciation/appreciation. Why is/was the Bank of Thailand buying gold? To prevent its reserves from depreciating because they are US$'s?

I carry a $50,000,000 dollar note around in my wallet to remind me of what happens when a government turns on the money printer. Mugabe tried to print his way out of trouble and did he succeed? If people want to live beyond their means then they must borrow and then default. Does that sound like what happens regularly in Thailand? Whenever someone asks to borrow some money from my wife all I hear is "can you give me" as it rarely comes back.

Oh come on guys, someone must have a tip, advice or even an opinion?

IA

Seen as no one else wants to be the first to give you advice I'll jump in. I reckon you sit the ungrateful little bitches down and individually (I reckon you've probably given them names?) or collectively give them a stern talking to. You need to tell them that you have gone to a lot of trouble and expense building a new house for them and that if they so much as create any trouble, then they will follow their brothers to siberia. All young (gilts) Isaan girls know that the ultimate goal is to get the farang to build them a new house for them and their sisters.

Seriously, I don't think there are too many people out there who would be able to offer you an informed opinion on this as most of us would be looking to you for an answer. You seem to have taken over the mantle as the resident expert on this forum since maisefarmer's demise (does anyone know why he doesn't post anymore?). You seem to me to be someone who has done a lot of research into the details needed to make a success of your projects and as a result are a wealth of knowledge which has assited me and I'm sure alot of others here.

As for your current problem I would never have even considered this an issue during my short time working with pigs, however it seems that their welfare (mental) plays a significant part in their overall performance. So my suggestion is to pick one course of action and implement it, taking note of the outcomes and then with the next lot of gilts try the alternative and then you may finally have your answer. Given that at some time your "girls" are going to get out of synch with each other (return) then it may become very complicated to manage. If I understand your post correctly you plan to "slip" a whole group of sows if one returns to keep them together and subsitiute a group of gilts to keep the production program on track. If this correct then and you leave the late farrower in the pen and hold the others back to catch up to her then that would mean feeding the waiting sows for no return. At some point I think a decision between production and animal mental welfare will need to be made. I am sure that like kids they will sort themselves out before any major damage is done if you just throw them in the deep end.

cheers and keep posting I enjoy reading your thoughts and info

Lefty

I reckon you would be better off posting this in the "Thailand Motor Forum" and if you look through some of th eposts there you may find your answers.

Cheers

Isaanaussie

My problem here is a combination of wind and the poor soil which means we suffer lodging of the near ripen rice. I grow HM105 which is a strong plant but they basically just fall over in the local "mud"

Isaanaussie

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted and underlined bit in your reply. Also when the plants fall over in the mud is it because they fall over roots and all or is it the stalks that bend over. The main point of difference with SRI system is that because the paddy is not kept flooded the plants suposedly develop a much larger, deeper root system. Don't get me wrong at this point I really don't know as I am not there growing rice and am only going on theory but you gotta start somewhere. That's why at the moment I'm only dreaming not "living the dream".

to mailman

If I have jumped in on your post before you got an answer I am sorry, just jump back in.

to slapout, Isaanaussie and mailman

Thanks for the responses. You have answered my questions for me thank you.

I don't have an issue if the machines are slow as I have enough time however if they lose (too much) grain that is unacceptable.

It is my intention to try the SRI system of growing rice which I think would solve the issue of the rice being in nice uniform rows, it should also produce stronger plants which may reduce the bending over issue. I also intend to turn as much small lots in the paddies into bigger lots to facilitate the use of mechanised means of cultivating and harvesting. One plot we have that comes to mind is currently about 20 small paddies and I think it could be easily made into 3.

mixed breed your comment about waiting for a secondhand DC-60, I have been watching closely to see them start to appear for sale but I haven't seen one yet. I don't want to pay a million plus for a new one and then have to find work to pay for it. The only secondhand drum harvestor I have seen was (I think) on Bahtsold and it was a KPH Thai machine for 1.15 million. So it seems like I will need to book a harvester in the short term and wait for people to start flogging their unaffordable (to them) DC-60's

once again thanks for the replies

moech

As far as I know from what my missus has explained to me and I certainly must misunderstand sometimes as she regularly says to me, "Don't you listen!"

Anyway I believe before you can get electricity connected you need to have an address. So if you haven't got something such as catwho says then you can't get the electricity. I think at one time she told me something about that you can't get an address until you have a toilet but if catwho got it with just a shed maybe you don't need the toilet.

They probably need an address so they have somewhere to send the bill and because the villages are not set out to some pre-surveyed plan the address comes after the house.

In my missus village I don't know how the postman knows where to go as the numbers are given out in the order the houses are built so maybe it was meant to be that way to reflect the Thai way.

But Gotlost probably gave the best advice get your wife to ask the electricity company what they need you to do.

Cheers

Hello All, the Korat ag show(same place as I've posted before on this thread) will start July 23

and run for a week. Will try to get more info. Last year's show had been expanded to have more

of the 4-legged critters than just plant ag.

rice555

Rice

Anymore info on what is on show etc. Can you tell me where exactly its held I would love to go and have a look as hopefully I'll be in Thailand by then.

Cheers