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I know Christopher Hitchens is quoted often, but.......................“Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”
He later referred to the idea of heaven, as being a 'Celestial North Korea'
Why is he often quoted? That does not sound convincing to me, so I am guessing, it's because the quoter agrees with the quotee.
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Well, he is also quoted often because he is witty and sharp as a tack, brilliantly well spoken and coming from someone who was not indoctrinated as a kid, let's face it, Hitchens was right.
Such faith is touching. Though I don't believe it's particularly constructive.
No, I'm wrong. That faith is the same as the faith of the Nazis, or the Jesuits of the Spanish Inquisition, It is dangerous.
Anyway, believe whatever guru you like. Or alternatively, form your own opinion and present it, rather than mouthpiecing for others
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Admiring somebody is not faith. Faith is blind belief in supernatural.
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I know Christopher Hitchens is quoted often, but.......................
“Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”
He later referred to the idea of heaven, as being a 'Celestial North Korea'
Why is he often quoted? That does not sound convincing to me, so I am guessing, it's because the quoter agrees with the quotee.
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Because he was a brilliant man.
Read his books!
Maybe search Youtube, there are many long clips, an hour long debates, usually held in universities, Hitchens debating religous person. These debates are hugely entertaining.
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No no,
Is Christopher Hitchins the new gospel? People seem to take his word without question.
Christopher Hitchens:Please close this thread, as its going to turn in to a group of hateful religious comments.
People have the right to practice any religion they choose. Respect it
Religion poisons everyhing!
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I question everything. But I happen to agree with Hitchens on this. Every atheist does.
I very must agree with and admire Richard Dawkins, brilliant scientist, and atheist.
Most misery and suffering in the world is caused by one religion or another.
Even Buddhists, usually considered the least hateful and tolernt religion.. But ask Muslims in Myanmar, how they feel about Budhists people passinately attacking and killing men, women, and children, just because they are Muslim minority in Myanmar.
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Please close this thread, as its going to turn in to a group of hateful religious comments.
People have the right to practice any religion they choose. Respect it
Christopher Hitchens:
Religion poisons everyhing!
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Aren't there very harsh defamation laws in Thailand? You have to be very careful if you accuse somebody, they can very easily sue, and win in court.
He wrongly charged, spent time in jail, his photo published in Pattaya paper.
After he was cleared of charges and he was freed, can he sue the paper that published a photo of him? Or it doesnt work like that?
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"Luxury" Condo For Sale! Davai! Davai!
Is this an auction JT?
Ok, Let's Go!!
I bid 10,000 100,000 Baht and you can borrow my truck to move your stuff - I'll even help you.
10 million and we've got a deal, comrade.
Maybe accept 9.5 million?
I realize this is low, but look at upside, you finally get the opportunity to drive a car in Pattaya!
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Maybe for their next story about retired people, Channel4 should send a journalist to Newcastle, UK? in January, February..
I'd love to read how people over 65 live there, and how they spend their retirement years there.
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I think, all these people ranting about...how brave they are and how they stand up against others............They are thinking of their wives!
But be careful......even she can hit you back......one day!
She probably gives her foreigner boyfriend a slap or two, but if it is something serious, then her real, Thai boyfriend will visit, and set the offending foreigner straight. Or her brothers.
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And then......on another Thread this morning, "Farang door mats".......... some wise people told me not to be afraid to confront Thais if I am offended!
That advice will get you killed faster than you can say, "<deleted>?"
Curiously that thread Costas2008 was referring, is running at General forum at TV right now. A poster there is calling foreigners to stand up, confront a local wrong doer, and not be door mats (his words) in Thailand.
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OP, before you give terrible, and dangerous advise to fellow foreigners to stand up for themselves, and not be door mats in Thailand, you my want to check out Pattaya News Clippings, news from last night.
A Thai man was complaining about the noise, coming from gang of Thai teens, drinking and partying.
That Thai man stood up for himself, he wasn't a door mat. The teens shot and killed him.
Please do not give wrong, dangerous advise!
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I think we can now assume that they wont be adding seating to the path, their tent cities leave no room for them
Probably no seating.
Benches would take away valuable space, less room for tent city, that will be constructed there once a months or so.
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I don't think most retirees come to Pattaya because of sex. They choose Pattaya, because we have large expat population, Western food available everywhere, and fairly good infrastructure here. Most people come to live in Thailand cos there is no snow, and it cheap compared to Western Europe.
Love the last sentence in Channel4 blog:
" There was a time when life over 65 was synonymous with illness and senility – but these days, senior citizens are more inclined to get busy living – even if some people do not happen to approve of the way they do it."
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One thing in life I have learnt is that cigarette smokers must be the most un-intelligent people to walk this earth
Obviously your an uneducated person.
Shouldn't that be 'Obviously you're an uneducated person'.
Grammar champ in the house!
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Why not say 'Have a smoke'?Have a fag........
Do you really feel 'fag' is an appropriate word in 21st century, when we are talking about smoking?
Why not say cigarette, ciggy, a smoke?
Oh give us a break! chill out, 'ave a puff on a fag, but you might feel a little queer.
See what I mean?
Maybe you shouldn't say 'give us a break'
Maybe you shouldn't use 'us' in your post. Most TV members wouldn't share your view, and your post as majority view of TV community, I am quite sure.
It is only your own, sad view. Don't say 'us' if you are posting your personal thoughts and opinion. Perhaps user transam shares your view, but I very much doubt anybody else does.
But I give you a break, don't worry!
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Nothing wrong with iPhone 5s. A bit pricy, agreed, but still a mighty smartphone.At the moment I wouldn't change particularly as I don't want a bigger phone. Anything larger would constitute carrying a tablet in my jacket pocket.
It is a phone with 4" displey, costing 21.000 baht, with 16 Gb internal, no SD card to expand storage.
4" is tiny. In year 2013 4" displey is unacceptable.
Iphone is beautiful phone, but 4" is tiny. And the price for this mediocre phone is rediculous.
Galaxy Note 3 cost exactly as much. Note 3 is best phone for any money right now.
iphone 5s is a joke next to Note 3.
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I'd go with the CORE at 8,000 baht.
Any and all of those would easily handle those uses.
So screen size is a big factor.
The CORE at 4.3 inches is a good size.
If you want bigger the Win and then Grand.
Ace probably smaller than she'd love.
Assuming you want a PHONE not a larger phablet in which case the Grand is getting more towards that.
No no no!
Get a phone with 1080p resolution, get a used one if budget is 10.000 or less.
This HTC One did cost 22.000 in Feb 2013, it milled from solid brick of Aluminium, 4.7" displey.. And listed right here in TV!
Why oh why buy a 480p phone for the same money?
Next to htc one, Grand looks terrible!
I know many people will never buy 2nd hand, but if this 2nd hand phone looks like new, and you getting it for fraction of the retail price.. I dont get it!
Especially if you are considering Grand, 5 inch displey, pjxel density is so low, there is no lower on the market, Grand has the lowest.
Please consider this one:
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Grand duos is a big screen and very useful for the many with 2 sim cards.
2 sims is a good start, but its all downhill from there..
5" screen is good size, but 480 - 800 resolution is rediculousy low. This was a resolution of phones in 2009.
Displey density 187 ppi is unacceptably low. There is no point for a large screen, if resolution is this low. 5 inch displey is good size, but with displey this size, 480p looks terrible mess, it looks like 2000 baht 7 inch no name tablets from China.
Displey is a blurry mess, browsing web is painful.
Please stay away from Grand, for same price you can buy much better phone.
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I see they're catching up with us again...
http://scouts.org.uk/news/2012/07/sexual-orientation-should-not-be-a-bar-to-membership/
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Nice!
UK seems to be way ahead of America in this area..
From Scouts UK:
" In the UK we have a very clear policy and practice that welcomes adults and young people (boys and girls) irrespective of their sexual orientation.
We are proud that we have had this approach in place for many years. We believe that this reflects the needs and wants of the communities in which we operate, and reflects our affirmed view that sexual orientation should not be a bar to membership.
We believe that discriminating against an individual simply on the grounds of his or her sexuality is inappropriate, and is contrary to our interpretation of the inclusivity and values of Scouting."
So nicely, and beatifully put.. love the line "discriminating an individual simply on the grounds of his or her secuality"
Statement like this proves common sense and logic prevails sometimes.
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The textbook or dictionary of dominated:
3. To enjoy a commanding, controlling position in: a drug company that dominates the tranquilizer market.
I am starting to like this game of semantics now.
Take the point 3. from the dictionary:
'To enjoy commanding, controlling position..'
I left out the owning drug company part of this dictionary quote, because they dont own anything, but they THINK they own Pattaya, Jomtien and any other resort town in the world, where they are the dominating majority.
So sadly even your own dictionary disagrees with you, ThaiBob.
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Have a fag........
Why not say 'Have a smoke'?
I'm sure you know the word 'fag' is often used as an insult towards some people, yes?
Why not say have a cigarette, have a smoke..
In England the word 'fag' was used decades ago, it had only one meaning, a cigarette.
I am not Englishman, but I know it is no longer used. People now use the word cigarette.
Many people in England, people in their 70s, 80s, 90s do not know this word is now only used as an insult, but I believe you are much younger, and you prolly know.
The word 'fag' does not hurt me one bit, but I have read, and watched YT clips about young guys, teens, who really struggle with their sexuality. This word hurts them very much. These teens sometimes end their lives at 14, 15 .. they think there is something wrong with them, but they are unable to change who they are.
Maybe you could use another word, maybe a cigarette, a smoke... a dooby, if you are into home gardening, and agriculture?
Do you really feel 'fag' is an appropriate word in 21st century, when we are talking about smoking?
Why not say cigarette, ciggy, a smoke?
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Luckily none of the places I frequent regularly allow smoking inside, and many dont allow it outside either. Even my open-air Thai noodle shop in Jomtien wont let people smoke anywhere near the tables, and anyone who tries to light up is quickly told to stop (Thais and farangs).I believe people should have a right to smoke outside, restaurant and cafe terrasses. For many people it is one of the few joys they have in life.
Does it really bother us, non smokers, so much that we ban smoking outside? I used to smoke for years, 2 packs a day, quit 4 yrs ago.
If a person at next table happens to smoke, yes I can smell it, but it is a faint smell of tobacco smoke.. I know that the health hazard of being outside, 1 meter away from exhaling sigaret smoker cant be significant. I think its mostly 'I am sitting here, how dare you light up next to me, and law is on my side' attitude.
We all break some laws sometimes. We inhale way worse crap in the air, than tabacco smoke coming from next table, or chair next to uz. It is open air, there can't be serious health damage. It is just some faint odour. We know that in Pattaya there are smells much worse than that.
Air pollution from cigarette smoke can't be the cause if smog in LA, Bangkok.
I think it is mostly selfish principle, that law is on my side, and now I can tell another guy what he is, or isn't allowed to do. Prohibiting a guy next to us to do what he likes, and what is very insignificant to us, is only a power trip. People enjoy telling others what they can or can not do, and how the should live their lives. It has nithing to do with health hazard.
Former smokers are the first ones to freak out, when they see a smoker on the open terrace. We, former smokers remember that this is somthing we used to enjoy, we quit, and now we dont tolerate others enjoying what we longer can.
On a related note, is it necessary to use the word 'fag' instead of saying cigarette, or a smoke? I know in England it used to be a common word for cigarette, but it now it is often used as an insult. But u cant argue against using that word, Englishman will insist he means no innuendo, he means no disrespect. But I think his intention is to insult certain people, and he takes pleasure in using the word 'fag', while he can easily use 'smoke' or cigarette
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One thing in life I have learnt is that cigarette smokers must be the most un-intelligent people to walk this earth
That is the strangest thing I've read all day!
Could you expand that thought maybe?
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I don't subscribe to this domination theory of yours. In actuality, the tourists numbers are probably greater for other groups like the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Indians, etc. but that is not important.
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I don't feel dominated by Russians
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You say it is not imortant. But it is very important, especially in this thread.
Number of Chinese tourists may well be higher, than number of Russians visiting Pattaya area. But there is no mention of them in Pattaya forum, there are almost no tread about Chinese tourist, and I've never read negative comments about Chinese here.
It is because they don't yell at Thais in their language, they do not insult Thais, at least not openly, I have never witnessed Chinese tourist insulting a local. I see Russians insulting and yelling at Thais several times every day.
Chinese are not dinking until early morning hours, and disturbing neighbours.
They dont walk around drunk, acting like they owne this place.
You may not subscribe to Russian dominating Pattaya area, but they do. Reading various threads at TV, it seems most Pattaya residents also think they do.
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I posted most all the dictionary definitions but being the gentleman I am and being here in Pattaya, I dropped all references to sexual domination.
So saying Russian tourists now dominate streets of Pattaya and Jomtien is not ok. Dictionary definitions and all. Ok!
Would dictionary agree if I say most of the loud, rude, drunk tourists we see in Pattaya and Jomtien are Russian tourists?
Would most Pattaya permanent residence agree, that it is Russian tourists who have changed this place for worse in last few years?
How about attitude of Thais towards foreigners is rapidly changing for worse, because Russians now dominate Pattaya and Jomtien, and they are often very rude towards Thais?
Or are we now going even deeper into semantics?
Some interesting statistics about Brits retiring to LOS
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