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EU tells Netanyahu it rejects Trump's Jerusalem move

By Robin Emmott and John Davison

 

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Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini brief the media at the European Council in Brussels, Belgium December 11, 2017. REUTERS/Francois Lenoir

 

BRUSSELS/CAIRO (Reuters) - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took his case to Europe to ask allies to join the United States in recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital, but met a firm rebuff from EU foreign ministers who saw the move as a blow against the peace process.

 

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, meanwhile, took his own case to Egypt on Monday and was expected to fly to Turkey for a meeting of Muslim countries this week, cementing support from leaders who say the U.S. move was a dire error.

 

President Donald Trump announced last Wednesday the United States would recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital, breaking with decades of U.S. policy and international consensus that the city's status must be left to Israeli-Palestinian talks.

 

Palestinian militants in Gaza fired a rocket into Israel and the Israeli military said it responded with air strikes and tank fire targeting a position of Hamas, the Islamist group that controls the enclave.

 

On the ground in the Palestinian territories, violent clashes with Israeli security forces in which scores of Palestinians have been injured and several killed since the U.S. announcement last week appeared to have mostly subsided.

 

Netanyahu, on his first visit to EU headquarters in Brussels, said Trump's move helped peace, "because recognising reality is the substance of peace, the foundation of peace".

 

Israel, which annexed East Jerusalem after capturing it in a 1967 war, considers the entire city to be its capital. Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future independent state.

 

The Trump administration says it remains committed to the peace process and its decision does not affect Jerusalem's future borders or status. It says any credible future peace deal will place the Israeli capital in Jerusalem, and ditching old policies is needed to revive a peace process frozen since 2014.

 

But even Israel's closest European allies have rejected that logic and say recognising Israel's capital unilaterally risks inflaming violence and further wrecking the chance for peace.

 

After a breakfast meeting between Netanyahu and EU foreign ministers, Sweden's top diplomat said no European at the closed-door meeting had voiced support for Trump's decision, and no country was likely to follow the United States in announcing plans to move its embassy.

 

"I have a hard time seeing that any other country would do that and I don't think any other EU country will do it," Margot Wallstrom told reporters.

 

Israel's position does appear to have more support from some EU states than others. Last week, the Czech foreign ministry said it would begin considering moving the Czech Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, while Hungary blocked a planned EU statement condemning the U.S. move.

 

But Prague later said it accepted Israel's sovereignty only over West Jerusalem, and Budapest said its long-term position seeking a two-state solution in the Middle East had not changed.

 

On Monday, Czech Foreign Minister Lubomir Zaoralek said of Trump's decision: "I'm afraid it can't help us."

 

"I'm convinced that it is impossible to ease tension with a unilateral solution," Zaoralek said. "We are talking about an Israeli state but at the same time we have to speak about a Palestinian state."

 

The Palestinian president, Abbas, met Egypt's President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi in Cairo, as well as the head of the Arab League. Egypt, a U.S. ally with a peace treaty with Israel, has brokered Israeli-Palestinian deals in the past.

 

"DUNGEON FOR MUSLIMS"

 

Moving the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem would have "dangerous effects on peace and security in the region", Sisi said on Monday at an earlier meeting with visiting Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

Abbas was also due to fly to Turkey. Trump's announcement has triggered a war of words between Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan and Netanyahu, straining ties between the two U.S. allies which were restored only last year after a six-year breach that followed the Israeli storming of a Turkish aid ship.

 

On Sunday, Erdogan called Israel a "terror state". Netanyahu responded by saying he would accept no moral lectures from Erdogan who he accused of bombing Kurdish villages, jailing opponents and supporting terrorists.

 

On Monday Erdogan took aim directly at Washington over Trump's move: "The ones who made Jerusalem a dungeon for Muslims and members of other religions will never be able to clean the blood from their hands," he said in a speech in Ankara. "With their decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital, the United States has become a partner in this bloodshed."

 

Trump's announcement triggered days of protests across the Muslim world and clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

 

In Beirut, tens of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets to protest at a march backed by Hezbollah, the heavily-armed Iran-backed Shi'ite group whose leader called last week for a new Palestinian uprising against Israel. An announcer led the crowd in chants of "Death to America! Death to Israel!"

 

Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah told the crowd by video link the group was turning its focus back towards the fight against Israel: "Today the axis of resistance, including Hezbollah, will return as its most important priority ... Jerusalem and Palestine and the Palestinian people and the Palestinian resistance in all its factions."

 

"STOP PAMPERING"

 

Netanyahu, who has been angered by the EU's search for closer business ties with Iran, said Europeans should emulate Trump's move and press the Palestinians to do so, too.

 

"It's time that the Palestinians recognise the Jewish state and also recognise the fact that it has a capital. It's called Jerusalem," he said. In comments filmed later on his plane, he said he had told the Europeans to "stop pampering the Palestinians", who "need a reality check".

 

The decision to recognise Jerusalem could also strain Washington's ties with another of its major Muslim allies, Saudi Arabia, which has sought closer relations with Washington under Trump than under his predecessor, Barack Obama.

 

Saudi Arabia shares U.S. and Israeli concerns about the increasing regional influence of Iran, and was seen as a potential broker for a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace deal. But Saudis have suggested that unilateral decisions over Jerusalem make any such rapprochement more difficult.

 

Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former Saudi ambassador to the United States and veteran ex-security chief, published a strongly-worded open letter to Trump on Monday.

 

"Bloodshed and mayhem will definitely follow your opportunistic attempt to make electoral gain," the prince wrote in the letter, published in the Saudi newspaper al-Jazeera.

 

"Your action has emboldened the most extreme elements in the Israeli society ... because they take your action as a license to evict the Palestinians from their lands and subject them to an apartheid state," he added. "Your action has equally emboldened Iran and its terrorist minions to claim that they are the legitimate defenders of Palestinian rights."

 

Iran's defence minister said Trump's recognition of Jerusalem would hasten Israel's destruction, while a top Revolutionary Guards commander, Qassem Soleimani, phoned two Palestinian armed groups and pledged support for them.

 

(Additional reporting by Alastair Macdonald, Philip Blenkinsop, Nidal al-Mughrabi, Maayan Lubell, Sami Aboudi and Babak

Dehghanpisheh,; Writing by Peter Graff; Editing by Andrew Heavens, Larry King, William Maclean)

 
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"EU tells Netanyahu it rejects Trump's Jerusalem move"

 

Benjamin Netanyahu will reject Trump Jerusalem move when the Palstinians Hamas and Hezbollah will reject terrorism, Assad will stop slaughtering his people, and Iran and  Russia will stop meddling in countries they have no business being there except for their selfish expending, controlling agendas....

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52 minutes ago, ezzra said:

"EU tells Netanyahu it rejects Trump's Jerusalem move"

 

Benjamin Netanyahu will reject Trump Jerusalem move when the Palstinians Hamas and Hezbollah will reject terrorism, Assad will stop slaughtering his people, and Iran and  Russia will stop meddling in countries they have no business being there except for their selfish expending, controlling agendas....

 

I've always understood that Solomon was a wise king.

 

Not sure that "Benjamin I" will be remembered like Solomon with what you wrote...

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2 hours ago, ezzra said:

"EU tells Netanyahu it rejects Trump's Jerusalem move"

 

Benjamin Netanyahu will reject Trump Jerusalem move when the Palstinians Hamas and Hezbollah will reject terrorism, Assad will stop slaughtering his people, and Iran and  Russia will stop meddling in countries they have no business being there except for their selfish expending, controlling agendas....

Someone has to keep an even hand on the whole situation, otherwise the US who puts in business in every corner of the world, will take over. The fact that Russia and China have kept them at bay is a blessing, you will now see other countries of the world who sit on the UN start to wake up to the fact that the UN is not worth anything, especially as the US does what it pleases against the vote, and veto's continuously, it was set up for failure from day one, although stacked in the US's favour.

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LOL@EU politicos. Never has a group of bureaucrats been so out of touch with the sentiments of the people it claims to represent. The majority of EU citizens are fed up with the middle east, the millions of illegal immigrants and economic migrants and the ethnic communities who reject  European culture in favour of their own caliphate culture.

The reality is that outside of  the violent ethnic power group who have the EU politicos running scared scared and the usual extreme left wing groups, no one cares. The average European doesn't care at all about Palestine, Jerusalem or Israel.  A meteroite could land in the region killing everyone, and the only concern the Europeans would have is; Will this cause the  price of oil to increase and does it mean that  they can return to the beach resorts  without fear of being  slaughtered by a crazed jihadist.

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49 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL@EU politicos. Never has a group of bureaucrats been so out of touch with the sentiments of the people it claims to represent. The majority of EU citizens are fed up with the middle east, the millions of illegal immigrants and economic migrants and the ethnic communities who reject  European culture in favour of their own caliphate culture.

The reality is that outside of  the violent ethnic power group who have the EU politicos running scared scared and the usual extreme left wing groups, no one cares. The average European doesn't care at all about Palestine, Jerusalem or Israel.  A meteroite could land in the region killing everyone, and the only concern the Europeans would have is; Will this cause the  price of oil to increase and does it mean that  they can return to the beach resorts  without fear of being  slaughtered by a crazed jihadist.

What tosh

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1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL@EU politicos. Never has a group of bureaucrats been so out of touch with the sentiments of the people it claims to represent. The majority of EU citizens are fed up with the middle east, the millions of illegal immigrants and economic migrants and the ethnic communities who reject  European culture in favour of their own caliphate culture.

The reality is that outside of  the violent ethnic power group who have the EU politicos running scared scared and the usual extreme left wing groups, no one cares. The average European doesn't care at all about Palestine, Jerusalem or Israel.  A meteroite could land in the region killing everyone, and the only concern the Europeans would have is; Will this cause the  price of oil to increase and does it mean that  they can return to the beach resorts  without fear of being  slaughtered by a crazed jihadist.

 

Duuuh, it's not the "Middle East".

 

It's the millions of ordinary, law abiding, non-violent, non-extreme Muslims in the EU who just became politicised and susceptible to "turning" because of what Trump did.

 

Geddit?

 

 

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4 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL@EU politicos. Never has a group of bureaucrats been so out of touch with the sentiments of the people it claims to represent. The majority of EU citizens are fed up with the middle east, the millions of illegal immigrants and economic migrants and the ethnic communities who reject  European culture in favour of their own caliphate culture.

 

yeah that's why the far right is in power in most of the EU countries...oh wait...

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4 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL@EU politicos. Never has a group of bureaucrats been so out of touch with the sentiments of the people it claims to represent. The majority of EU citizens are fed up with the middle east, the millions of illegal immigrants and economic migrants and the ethnic communities who reject  European culture in favour of their own caliphate culture.

The reality is that outside of  the violent ethnic power group who have the EU politicos running scared scared and the usual extreme left wing groups, no one cares. The average European doesn't care at all about Palestine, Jerusalem or Israel.  A meteroite could land in the region killing everyone, and the only concern the Europeans would have is; Will this cause the  price of oil to increase and does it mean that  they can return to the beach resorts  without fear of being  slaughtered by a crazed jihadist.

Far as I can work out the average person does not know or care about anything other than what they'll have for dinner.

I don't see what that has to do with bureaucrats that are paid to make decisions deciding not to follow the US to Jerusalem.

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the Palestinians have always been on a rampage about Jerusalem and have always considered it their capital too............sorta like I still think of Texas as "northern Mexico."...the EU has no right to stick their big nose into this controversy.......let this remain a two state argument and let the rest of the world go to hell in a handbasket..what the rest of the world thinks is of no consequence or solution in this matter.................merkel is still a nazi as far as i am concerned.....do we go after her too?

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An excellent article from an Israeli online magazine suggests some of the tough questions they ought to be asking Netanyahu at their breakfast conference, after he lectures them about moving EU embassies to Jerusalem....

 

"Europe, wake up and smell the coffee
Netanyahu’s Israel openly mocks the values that Europe claims to hold dear. When will European leaders stand up and reject the unacceptable reality of the past 50 years?"

 

https://972mag.com/europe-wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee/131407/

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8 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Someone has to keep an even hand on the whole situation, otherwise the US who puts in business in every corner of the world, will take over. The fact that Russia and China have kept them at bay is a blessing, you will now see other countries of the world who sit on the UN start to wake up to the fact that the UN is not worth anything, especially as the US does what it pleases against the vote, and veto's continuously, it was set up for failure from day one, although stacked in the US's favour.

 

That's the same UN that has Saudi Arabian, Qatar, and the Russian Federation representatives on their Human Rights Commission!!!  The UN is a worthless organization, self serving, self important, and sucking millions of $$ out of countries for very little to nothing, except being told what to do, often against the countries' own interests. They're a bunch of self important clowns.

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12 minutes ago, drchuckknisley said:

the Palestinians have always been on a rampage about Jerusalem and have always considered it their capital too............sorta like I still think of Texas as "northern Mexico."...the EU has no right to stick their big nose into this controversy.......let this remain a two state argument and let the rest of the world go to hell in a handbasket..what the rest of the world thinks is of no consequence or solution in this matter.................merkel is still a nazi as far as i am concerned.....do we go after her too?

I do believe it was Netanyahu who went to the  EU asking them to stick their noses into the controversy.

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1 hour ago, drchuckknisley said:

the Palestinians have always been on a rampage about Jerusalem and have always considered it their capital too............sorta like I still think of Texas as "northern Mexico."...the EU has no right to stick their big nose into this controversy.......let this remain a two state argument and let the rest of the world go to hell in a handbasket..what the rest of the world thinks is of no consequence or solution in this matter.................merkel is still a nazi as far as i am concerned.....do we go after her too?

Kindly explain why you think Merkel is a NAZI. Failing which I shall complain about your post

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8 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

Duuuh, it's not the "Middle East".

 

It's the millions of ordinary, law abiding, non-violent, non-extreme Muslims in the EU who just became politicised and susceptible to "turning" because of what Trump did.

 

Geddit?

 

 

So just because a person becomes upset about something they are allowed to become violent and extreme?

 

And you are OK conforming with their sensibilities, no matter how ridiculous, in order to keep them from choosing to "turn"?

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13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm pleasantly surprised. It'll be interesting to see if Britain is still a US poodle though.

I hope they don't back down.

 

Nothing to be surprised about, that was always the EU's position, same goes for the UK. But on the other hand, I think neither will come forth with a new initiative or offer of their own design. They'll wait for Trump's peace plan to be rolled out first.

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5 hours ago, dexterm said:

An excellent article from an Israeli online magazine suggests some of the tough questions they ought to be asking Netanyahu at their breakfast conference, after he lectures them about moving EU embassies to Jerusalem....

 

"Europe, wake up and smell the coffee
Netanyahu’s Israel openly mocks the values that Europe claims to hold dear. When will European leaders stand up and reject the unacceptable reality of the past 50 years?"

 

https://972mag.com/europe-wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee/131407/

 

It's a run of the mill rant, rather than an "excellent article". As expected, it raises one set of "tough questions", but totally ignores others. Nothing in the "excellent article" refers much to the other side of the equation. I can see the allure from your point of view, as it avoids all them complications making the conflict a wee bit harder to resolve than slogans suggest.

 

And before expected nonsense, no - that is not an endorsement of either Trump's move, Netanyahu's fantasies or Israel's occupation of the West Bank. It a position acknowledging one-sided BS isn't helpful.

 

 

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