Chaturon warns junta of ‘total collapse’ if NACC members allowed to remain in office

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Chaturon warns junta of ‘total collapse’ if NACC members allowed to remain in office

By The Nation

 

 

Chaturon Chaisang, a key figure from the Pheu Thai Party, has warned the ruling junta of a “total collapse” if current National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) members are allowed to continue working even though they do not meet the qualifiying criteria under the new Constitution.

 

He suggested on Monday that the bill on the NACC, which was recently passed by the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), should be amended to reflect the relevant constitutional clauses involving the qualifications of NACC members.

 

The NACC bill exempts some members of the agency from complying with the Constitution’s tough clauses regarding required qualifications and prohibited qualities.

 

NACC president Watcharapol Prasarnrajkit, for example, lacks certain qualifications and also has a prohibited quality, having been out of political office for less than the 10 years required by the charter for someone to be eligible to work as a commissioner.

 

In a Facebook message, Chaturon said that by passing the bill, the NLA members in effect had allowed the existing NACC membership to remain in office until their term ends, although they do not meet the tough qualifications set by the 2017 Constitution.

 

He added that the charter set high standards for NACC members with the goal of preventing possible political intervention from people in power.

 

“It is against the Constitution for the NLA to allow the existing NACC members to remain in office until their term ends,” Chaturon insisted.

 

He also noted that the NACC chief is close to the ruling junta, and by allowing him to remain in office, the junta would undermine the Constitution’s checks-and-balances system aimed at preventing government corruption.

 

“If the existing NACC members are allowed to remain in office, without the NACC bill being revised, the NCPO should brace for a total collapse,” Chaturon said, referring to the ruling National Council for Peace and Order.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30336346

 

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[tracker1]

Hope the indians arn't getting to restless !

[baboon]

They even ignore their own constitution. What a pointless exercise that was.

[AGareth2]

collapse?

not going to happen

they can do what they like!

[seminomadic]

NACC has now outed itself as nothing but high priests....supplicants condescending to the populace, legitimizing the rule of the soldier.

 

There. That's my best Jim Morrisson impersonation.

[Jimbo in Thailand]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

the junta would undermine the Constitution’s checks-and-balances system aimed at preventing government corruption.

LOL, bizarre statement considering the fact that the junta wrote the new "Constitution".

[Eric Loh]

33 minutes ago, baboon said:

They even ignore their own constitution. What a pointless exercise that was.

That would trigger a coup in normal times. This abnormal times where the law makers are also the law breakers with guns. 

[yellowboat]

Think you might be seeing a new PTP.  One that is taking the high road, which does not look very difficult, given that they now are telling those who wrote the law to follow it. 

 

The disobedience will probably turn to things like strikes, peaceful protests and demands for debate.  All things the junta are ill equipped to deal with.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, yellowboat said:

Think you might be seeing a new PTP.  One that is taking the high road, which does not look very difficult, given that they now are telling those who wrote the law to follow it. 

 

The disobedience will probably turn to things like strikes, peaceful protests and demands for debate.  All things the junta are ill equipped to deal with.

 

A little ironic isn't it. The PTP with it's immoral leadership and propensity for ignoring and breaking laws trying to "take the high road". About as high as a slugs belly can get off the gutter.

[yellowboat]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

A little ironic isn't it. The PTP with it's immoral leadership and propensity for ignoring and breaking laws trying to "take the high road". About as high as a slugs belly can get off the gutter.

Not sure if the PTP has flagrantly broke laws they themselves wrote though.  There are good Thais out there like Toon and Yinglucks transportation minister who could do great things for Thailand, but the country is now stuck with conniving, inept band of idiots on both sides.  Saying that, it could be a new dawn for the PTP.   They could smarten up. 

[Chris Lawrence]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

In a Facebook message, Chaturon said that by passing the bill, the NLA members in effect had allowed the existing NACC membership to remain in office until their term ends, although they do not meet the tough qualifications set by the 2017 Constitution.

Cracks appearing in the new constitution?

 

As long as the hypocritical oath is taken, no problem.

[Eric Loh]

Cryptic message from Chaturon. He may know something that we don’t. But the writing on the wall for a total collapse even from the Privy Council. The NACC bill if passed into law may just be the spark. But I think the NLA will back off and avoid a catastrophe. 

[Baerboxer]

17 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Not sure if the PTP has flagrantly broke laws they themselves wrote though.  There are good Thais out there like Toon and Yinglucks transportation minister who could do great things for Thailand, but the country is now stuck with conniving, inept band of idiots on both sides.  Saying that, it could be a new dawn for the PTP.   They could smarten up. 

 

There are lots of good Thais out there indeed. But whether they can ever break the grip of those who control things for their own ends is another matter. They would need to make fresh starts with new political parties intent not just on political reform but also serious reforms to the justice system, civil service and culture of corruption acceptance. 

 

As for PTP, they can't really change whilst the ownership hasn't changed. Same same, not different.

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

“It is against the Constitution for the NLA to allow the existing NACC members to remain in office until their term ends,”

It's not really against the Constitution. Rather it's an enhancement to the Constitution under the moral authority granted by elite minority, aka the "good people" who can transcend the Constitution. This is an example of Prayut's Thai-Style Democracy.

Still doesn't make it right.

[yellowboat]

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

There are lots of good Thais out there indeed. But whether they can ever break the grip of those who control things for their own ends is another matter. They would need to make fresh starts with new political parties intent not just on political reform but also serious reforms to the justice system, civil service and culture of corruption acceptance. 

 

As for PTP, they can't really change whilst the ownership hasn't changed. Same same, not different.

I agree with your first paragraph, but taking the high road is an easy step for the PTP now, given the lame junta .   Time will tell.   

[Baerboxer]

5 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

I agree with your first paragraph, but taking the high road is an easy step for the PTP now, given the lame junta .   Time will tell.   

 

I can't accept that PTP suddenly become virtuous overnight, regardless of how lame the Junta might or might not be.

 

Given the chance, they would grab power back and probably try and get their boss an amnesty and resurrect the 2.2 trillion ThB loan as before.

 

 

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I can't accept that PTP suddenly become virtuous overnight, regardless of how lame the Junta might or might not be.

 

Given the chance, they would grab power back and probably try and get their boss an amnesty and resurrect the 2.2 trillion ThB loan as before.

 

 

If they get in power first thing they will do is try to put as many of their own people in places of power to influence things.. just like the junta has done. PTP / Junta / democrats... all the same.. just want to be in power to feed from the treasury.  

 

Dont forget 30 billion baht in corruption money from the rice scheme.. into the hands of Thaksin allies. PTP is like a leopard.. it wont change its spots. Neither are the other parties.. if change comes.. it comes from a new party and fresh faces.. but will they be able to resist temptation.....

Edited January 16, 2018 by robblok

[yellowboat]

11 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I can't accept that PTP suddenly become virtuous overnight, regardless of how lame the Junta might or might not be.

 

Given the chance, they would grab power back and probably try and get their boss an amnesty and resurrect the 2.2 trillion ThB loan as before.

 

 

Grab ?  The PTP were elected or attained office legally.   The junta grabbed power and now has defiled representative government by adding non elected MP's.  As I said, the high road is their's if they wish to take a stroll.  There is not much in their way.

 

Well, if you want rule of law and a sound government system, you must put up with the legal proceedings of amnesty. 

[candide]

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

If they get in power first thing they will do is try to put as many of their own people in places of power to influence things.. just like the junta has done. PTP / Junta / democrats... all the same.. just want to be in power to feed from the treasury.  

I have no doubt they would wish to to it, but they are not allowed to do it, in particular for members of agencies such as NACC, EC, NHRC, etc.... That's the big difference with the Junta who will have stacked all agencies with its puppets.

So in case PPT gets in power, they will be flanked by a Junta-appointed senate, Junta-appointed agencies, Junta-appointed Strategic Committee, etc...

[Happyman58]

Bit like a street cleaner putting in for a directors job But then again in Thailand a street cleaner would be over qualified for the job Does any body take that NACC seriously? Just a group of yes people

[gamini]

7 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

A little ironic isn't it. The PTP with it's immoral leadership and propensity for ignoring and breaking laws trying to "take the high road". About as high as a slugs belly can get off the gutter.

Is not Chaturon under investigation for massive corruption in the construction of the airport, Luggage scanners?

[chama]

On 1/15/2018 at 11:24 PM, AGareth2 said:

collapse?

not going to happen

they can do what they like!

Yes, they can do what they like...after all isn't that what the bottom line is? The rest is all smoke and mirrors until the Thai people say emphatically that they have had enough and move the election process along. Even then there will need to be caution that it is done in a way that they get to pick their leaders, contrary to what some of the recent proposals would produce.