Morch Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, dexterm said: The usual spin, deflection, hot air and personal flame. The usual nonsense one-liner when you can't counter points made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, dexterm said: As I wrote above, Morrison's cynical musings about an embassy shift were merely a suggestion. Now we have become more aware of some of the possible foreign relations consequences if Morrison attempts to jump on the Trump bandwagon for zero benefit to Australia and a considerable downside risk. One would hope he has now learned his lesson after this cheap stunt to conflate domestic politics in a byelection with international affairs. Australia needs its closest neighbor far more than vice versa...for trade, to prevent people smuggling, joint defence, and as a buffer aganst Chinese expansion. Upsetting Indonesia would seriously undermine these areas of cooperation. Indonesia's threats over Scott Morrison's Israel embassy remarks now out in the open "Of course we will adjust our policy or our actions depending on the situation, but again I'll not even try to predict or decide what actions we will take." In diplomatic terms, that is strong language. Perhaps not as blunt as the reported text message exchange between Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi and her Australian counterpart Marise Payne, in which Ms Payne was purportedly told the embassy issue, "will slap Indonesia's face" and, "will affect bilateral relations". ...and there's more... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-19/indonesia-defence-cooperation-with-australia-reviewed/10393950 The same hypocritical stance presented on many a past topic - your objections to countries or politicians addressing issues pertaining to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict only comes up when such positions are not in line with your own. Otherwise, you actually tend to commend politicians doing so. And the same hyped up scaremongering regarding Indonesia's supposed "response". Nothing in your several alarmist posts addresses the fact that relations and trade are a two-way street, meaning such a move is bound to effect Indonesia as well. Nothing in your alarmist posts which acknowledges the fact that Muslim countries failed to act on hot air issued after Trump's move. To assume that this would have been different would require more than your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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