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Six million more doses of Sinopharm to be procured for Thailand by August


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A total of nine million doses of China’s Sinopharm vaccine are being procured by the Chulabhorn Royal Academy (CRA), to make up for the fewer doses than expected being delivered by AstraZeneca and in an absence of other vaccines, said Ruangkrai Likitwattana, a spokesperson of the parliamentary Budget Committee today (Thursday).

 

Three million doses have already been delivered, with two million more expected in two weeks, leaving four million more to be procured, said Mr. Ruangkrai, following a meeting with CRA representatives yesterday.

 

Priority will be given to people with disabilities, monks, priests, the elderly, pregnant women and others without access to vaccination.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/six-million-more-doses-of-sinopharm-to-be-procured-for-thailand-by-august/

 

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6 hours ago, tingtong said:

A study last week, ran in Hungary, testing the development of antibodies/ immunity in elderly.

With 18000 participants.

The study found that for over 60 age group, Sinopharm were greatly underperforming, giving false sense of security.

The average in age group of 60-80 who didn't develop any immunity was some 24% with Sinopharm!!

In contrast, 

With Pfeizer, Moderna, AZ, JJ or Sputnik ( the other vaccines in use, no Sinovac there!), the numbers were 1-3 % respectively.

 

I don't want to link the source, I am sure an internet search would find it, was published earlier this week.

It was prompted by one major company testing all their vaccinated elderly, finding very similar conclusion, that this larger study in turn confirmed.

 

Since Sinopharm in Thailand isn't a free vaccine, just buyers beware if you are over 60, cos it may be not the right solution .

 

Now Hungary offers a 3rd vaccine ( Pfeizer is suggested) to these elderly, from August.

My mom will get it as well; she was vaccinated with Sinopharm ( in April).

 

Lots of food for thought! But seeing as one doesn't really get to choose which vaccine one gets (if any at all, if you're a foreigner who doesn't happen to live in BKK), and proper vaccine-for-money (mRNA) seems to be way off in the future, what options are there???!!!

 

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7 hours ago, tingtong said:

A study last week, ran in Hungary, testing the development of antibodies/ immunity in elderly.

With 18000 participants.

The study found that for over 60 age group, Sinopharm were greatly underperforming, giving false sense of security.

The average in age group of 60-80 who didn't develop any immunity was some 24% with Sinopharm!!

In contrast, 

With Pfeizer, Moderna, AZ, JJ or Sputnik ( the other vaccines in use, no Sinovac there!), the numbers were 1-3 % respectively.

 

I don't want to link the source, I am sure an internet search would find it, was published earlier this week.

It was prompted by one major company testing all their vaccinated elderly, finding very similar conclusion, that this larger study in turn confirmed.

 

Since Sinopharm in Thailand isn't a free vaccine, just buyers beware if you are over 60, cos it may be not the right solution .

 

Now Hungary offers a 3rd vaccine ( Pfeizer is suggested) to these elderly, from August.

My mom will get it as well; she was vaccinated with Sinopharm ( in April).

 

Why not publish the source? Hardly credible without.

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4 hours ago, bradiston said:

Why not publish the source? Hardly credible without.

New Hungarian Research Finds Sinopharm Ineffective in a Quarter of People Over 60

„measurable antibody levels were present in about 90% of individuals below the age of 50, but antibody production after Sinopharm vaccination was strongly reduced with increasing age. A large number of elderly subjects, reaching 25% at 60 years, and up to 50% at ages over 80 were found not to produce any protective antibodies.”

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4 hours ago, sathornlover said:

New Hungarian Research Finds Sinopharm Ineffective in a Quarter of People Over 60

„measurable antibody levels were present in about 90% of individuals below the age of 50, but antibody production after Sinopharm vaccination was strongly reduced with increasing age. A large number of elderly subjects, reaching 25% at 60 years, and up to 50% at ages over 80 were found not to produce any protective antibodies.”

So what's your point?

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Sinopharm view from WHO:

 

A large multi-country Phase 3 trial has shown that 2 doses, administered at an interval of 21 days, have an efficacy of 79% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection 14 or more days after the second dose. Vaccine efficacy against hospitalization was 79%.

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

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1 minute ago, bradiston said:

I was asking for a source link, not a selective quote in triple bold shock horror headline font.

If you had bothered to look 3 posts above your original put down (and posted well over an hour before you posted) @rabas had already posted a link.

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16 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I was asking for a source link, not a selective quote in triple bold shock horror headline font.

I have merely taken the liberty, upon request, to name another source which again points to the laboratory study and which came to the conclusion that in older people over 60 considerably fewer or no antibodies are formed in comparison to other vaccines. To what extent one can actually conclude from this that the immune defence of this group of people is only very limited or even non-existent against the virus, only time will tell - I will wait for the results with an open mind and hopefully you will too ...

 

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6 hours ago, wasabi said:

Maybe they could just put Saline solution in vials instead.

Oh we would know if they were to do that - the production of saline solution would be made a monopoly in the hands of one of the favoured clans!

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40 minutes ago, tranquilogringo said:

Sinopharm view from WHO:

 

A large multi-country Phase 3 trial has shown that 2 doses, administered at an interval of 21 days, have an efficacy of 79% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection 14 or more days after the second dose. Vaccine efficacy against hospitalization was 79%.

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

Thank you for sharing the WHO page.
On which we can read the following hint:

 

"The trial was not designed and powered to demonstrate efficacy against severe disease in persons with comorbidities, in pregnancy, or in persons aged 60 years and above. Women were underrepresented in the trial. The median duration of follow-up available at the time of evidence review was 112 days. 

Two other efficacy trials are under way but data are not yet available."

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Posts denigrating and calling Chinese vaccines useless has been removed.

Whilst it may be less effective in certain cases ie Delta strain it is by no means useless.

At the end of the day this is a Thai government sponsored vaccine and the forum and or yourself can get in trouble for comments like this so stop it.

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26 minutes ago, pissedoff2am said:

Because vaccines save lives. Are you an antivaxxer?

Not in the least, but why Sinopharm and not the ones they claim to have ordered by the millions from Moderna, Pfizer and J&J, not to forget the AZ they claimed would be delivered in the 10's of millions monthly. Oh and let's not forget the failure to join Vovax which only now they are on bended knees trying to join.  Enjoy the CCP vaccines.

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