Popular Post snoop1130 Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Most Krabi tourism operators did not agree with the Thai government’s plan on reopening for fully vaccinated tourists on November 1st, according to prominent local tourism operator Atiphot Srisukon. Atiphot told reporters that many establishments, entertainment venues, bars, small shops on Phi Phi Island, and other tourist destinations in Mueang Krabi District had been closed for more than a year. Some shops are open, such as convenience stores, but there is no nightlife or legal alcohol sales at restaurants or bars, making the area a deserted island. Most local entrepreneurs believed that the government’s reopening plan in November will not stir tourism business and stimulate domestic income as much as they have planned because most of the small entrepreneurs have run out of the fund and materials to reopen their businesses. Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/10/15/krabi-tourism-entrepreneurs-say-they-do-not-agree-with-thai-governments-plan-for-reopening-in-november/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-10-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Some shops are open, such as convenience stores, but there is no nightlife or legal alcohol sales at restaurants or bars, making the area a deserted island. Most local entrepreneurs believed that the government’s reopening plan in November will not stir tourism business and stimulate domestic income as much as they have planned because most of the small entrepreneurs have run out of the fund and materials to reopen their businesses. A very accurate comment regarding the whole country which I doubt the so called Government will heed. Edited October 15, 2021 by fangless 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJ2U Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Many if not most won't open and will wait and see how many tourists actually arrive. Very expensive to restart a business thats been closed for a year or more. Many have moved on to other things or moved back to there parents homes in Issan. I hope its a flop. I like having Thailand to myself and this government making one mistep after another. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I can understand their reluctance to reopen. I think actual arrival numbers will stay far below expectations, at least initially, for a variety of reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) We have had domestic tourists come and complain there is absolutely nothing to do because nightlife and entertainment are still mandated closed and many business owners won’t open unless the situation dramatically improves.” well according to your big clever boss top man at TAT yesterday - he doesn't want bars and nightclubs to open at all - ever, this is coming right from the top man in charge of tourism in Thailand and he is obviously smarter than you to be in such an esteemed position Most of the stupid people who don't have big jobs like that know you are actually talking sense ???? but what do we know Edited October 15, 2021 by smedly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Caldera said: I can understand their reluctance to reopen. I think actual arrival numbers will stay far below expectations, at least initially, for a variety of reasons. Phuket is as open as they come right now and yet after the first 6 weeks of sandbox which saw about 34k people arriving they have barely broken 8k the following 6 weeks - they have exhausted the returning retirees and Thai's, very few actual tourists are willing to put up with their money gouging red tape no matter how many times they declare shut down Thailand open - it is fooling nobody 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Most local entrepreneurs believed that the government’s reopening plan in November will not stir tourism business and stimulate domestic income as much as they have planned because most of the small entrepreneurs have run out of the fund and materials to reopen their businesses. The government must think its as easy as flicking on a switch and the small businesses will be able to open again when many of these people are now on food hand outs. Whats needed is a stimulus package to them first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Most local entrepreneurs believed that the government’s reopening plan in November will not stir tourism business and stimulate domestic income as much as they have planned because most of the small entrepreneurs have run out of the fund and materials to reopen their businesses. If Thailand want to open up then open up fully. They can't say were open with closed signs on the door. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The government must think its as easy as flicking on a switch and the small businesses will be able to open again when many of these people are now on food hand outs. Whats needed is a stimulus package to them first. I really cant see any people with some kind of Business nounce opening up a Business that has been shuttered for over a Year without some kind of guarantee over their income. To open up the Business, Employ Staff, Electric Bills Etc Etc, is very expensive, and for many, the cheapest options are to remain closed, sell ( if Possible ) the Business, or to simple slide into receivership, and remain on the Food Line waiting for handouts from good Samaritans. As with nearly everything this Government has done to restart the Economy, there is no thought, or care given to the poor., who are the ones that need a little help most. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommers Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 Overseas tour operators are simply not going to deal with Thailand until the government stops putting out the fake news that the country is open. Any overseas tourist coming here will feel hugely conned because there are so few facilities allowed to open. US & European citizens are far better going to Mexico & the Caribbean or the Mediterranean countries where they can fully enjoy all the facilities that they demand for a holiday. Thailand offers nothing in comparison & the government is going to learn that very quickly. And spending 600 million to celebrate the non existent opening is sheer folly. I am an investor in a tourism related business but we will not be opening this calendar year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Covid what Covid its all been for sweet FA and clinging onto power ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 14 hours ago, fangless said: A very accurate comment regarding the whole country which I doubt the so called Government will heed. We have just had a fourth cancellation! Thank you inconsiderate Thai Government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I think that when some international travelers do arrive in Thailand in November and December and send back lots of pictures of all the closed small businesses. The big reopening of Thailand, will falter even more. I have seen many pictures already of the closed places, in Pattaya, Hua Hin, and Koh Samui, and I am waiting for 20-22, as there are still too many restrictions and rules, and risks of further COVID spikes to even want to go to Thailand this Winter. Good |Luck to all the brave travelers and expats. Geezer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The private sector knowing more about business than the government? Who would have guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The whole country is a basket case as far as tourists are concerned, who the hell would jump through the paperwork hoops presented by this stupid government, they say that they want to open up the country to tourism but make it as hard as possible with a nice Thai smile 5555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 very strange position those businessmen have. If they don't open they won't have any income. Even one person, the owner, can serve guests. Whether hotel, eatery, massage, any shop or service place. The next season will be in a year. This season they can make enough money to survive for the rest of year. It looks like they are waiting for the government handouts and are spoiled by tourist boom in the last 20 years 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaro Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 hours ago, internationalism said: very strange position those businessmen have. If they don't open they won't have any income. Even one person, the owner, can serve guests. Whether hotel, eatery, massage, any shop or service place. What about unpaid electricity bills? You're thinking of this problem is as simple as the thai government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) electricity bill can be minimal, if no AC is used (my monthly is below 500b). My friend has complained to the electric authority of his high bills above 5k per month and blaming faulty meter - he was running all day 4 aircons and the whole family were often taking hot bath (using electric heater). If there are no clients switch off aircon and all not essential appliances. Lighting with energy saving bulbs or LED doesn't use much power. My favourite guest house in kanchanaburi was cut out from electricity yet before covid, their unpaid bill was over 20k run over many months. The owner probably spend incoming money on something else, instead on his business. Edited October 17, 2021 by internationalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 7:31 AM, Bkk Brian said: The government must think its as easy as flicking on a switch and the small businesses will be able to open again when many of these people are now on food hand outs. Whats needed is a stimulus package to them first. . The only stimulus package that will attract tourists is bar girls and massage shops..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I know many on Samui who will not re-open. They put their life savings into trying to stay afloat, got little or no assistance from this stingy government, and ended up plowing through their savings, trying to keep their businesses running. Eventually they shut down. A promise from an administration that lacks even 1% credibility at this stage, is not going to be enough to get most businesses re-started. So, the tourists will show up, but what will they see? And when the word gets around, that the tourist areas of Thailand look like a post apocalyptic disaster zone, will any more come? Edited October 17, 2021 by spidermike007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/15/2021 at 5:31 PM, Bkk Brian said: The government must think its as easy as flicking on a switch and the small businesses will be able to open again when many of these people are now on food hand outs. Whats needed is a stimulus package to them first. I disagree with this and use the U.S. as an example. They gave out so much stimulus that many people do not/need to come back to work. Giving them a stimulus seems to mostly stimulate people to do more of nothing. Edited October 17, 2021 by bkk6060 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: I disagree with this and use the U.S. as an example. They gave out so much stimulus that many people do not/need to come back to work. Giving them a stimulus seems to mostly stimulate people to do more of nothing. Yea much better to let them rely on food hand outs by charitable people, this is not the US or UK where there have been good schemes in place to help.............jeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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