webfact Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 By Faisal Islam, Economics editor Vladimir Putin is "weaponising Ukraine's crops" as "a blackmail tool" for the rest of the world, Poland's prime minister said at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Mateusz Morawiecki told the BBC it was like what "Stalin did in 1933". In a wide-ranging interview, he also warned that "only Putin" would be "happy" with a UK-EU trade war over the Brexit deal for Northern Ireland. Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61562864 -- © Copyright BBC 2022-05-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) No...other countries are doing that for him. Edited May 25, 2022 by wombat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Meanwhile the con job continues 5 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 Yes, And if the world want's the wheat in Ukraine they should go get it. India should lead the pack of ships from many UN countries needed to get the grain out because Russia is still friends with India, and Russia knows it's running out of friends. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, wombat said: Meanwhile the con job continues Umm what con job ? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, wombat said: Meanwhile the con job continues That red dot also produces 10% of the worlds wheat which is being systemically strangled by Russia who is stealing it, blowing up the fields and blockading exports 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macthehat Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 7 hours ago, vandeventer said: Yes, And if the world want's the wheat in Ukraine they should go get it. India should lead the pack of ships from many UN countries needed to get the grain out because Russia is still friends with India, and Russia knows it's running out of friends. Rather than losing friends , BRICS expansion could have the opposite effect & ultimately challenge the economic power of the G7 nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingjai9 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 There is a revolution in progress, i.e. a revolution in the distribution of commodities and other goods on international markets. "True power rests in the hands of those who control the means of production and distribution." Regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine, changes in the worldwide distribution of goods are taking place. Price hikes in all sectors of manufacturing as well as the world distribution of energy will in all likelihood continue. The war in Ukraine will enable new monopolies and power centers to emerge as they form new channels of trade, With oligarchs all over the world walking hand in hand with their countries' leaders, new trade routes will emerge to satisfy the supply chain while spot shortages (real and staged) of essential goods will pop up from time to time while prices spike (and profits as well). The bottom line; the War in Ukraine will no doubt enable more than a few corporations and the oligarchs at the helm to tighten their grips on the levers of power as they get wealthier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: That red dot also produces 10% of the worlds wheat which is being systemically strangled by Russia who is stealing it, blowing up the fields and blockading exports Why did Ukraine mine all the ports? Seems to me that Ukraine is at fault here....let the grain ships take their chances. All this talk of EU and British navies coming to escort the grain ships is also bogus. Warships cannot pass through the Bosphorus now and Turkey have been very strict about implementing the treaty that controls the passage of warships. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said: Why did Ukraine mine all the ports? Seems to me that Ukraine is at fault here....let the grain ships take their chances. All this talk of EU and British navies coming to escort the grain ships is also bogus. Warships cannot pass through the Bosphorus now and Turkey have been very strict about implementing the treaty that controls the passage of warships. Defensive minefields have been laid, with safe paths through them, to prevent Russian ships approaching the ports to deliver/support marine invasion forces. The safe paths are easier to defend than a great frontage of open water. Friendlies may come and go as they like. It is a common practice in maritime warfare. Turkey needs to decide which side it's on.....it should remember that Russia has coveted "Constantinople" for hundreds of years. Edited May 26, 2022 by Enoon 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Pedrogaz said: Why did Ukraine mine all the ports? Seems to me that Ukraine is at fault here....let the grain ships take their chances. All this talk of EU and British navies coming to escort the grain ships is also bogus. Warships cannot pass through the Bosphorus now and Turkey have been very strict about implementing the treaty that controls the passage of warships. They mined all the ports did they? Seems the thieving Russian ships loading up with grain don't seem to worry too much. It also seems the Kremlin would allow ships carrying food to leave Ukrainian ports in exchange for the lifting of sanctions. Through the "safe corridor" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 There are a few people on here with awry views. I'm sure that some countries have their issues with despotic rulers, but let's face it prior to Russias invasion there was no impending food crisis, no world shortage of wheat, grain, fertiliser, oil or gas....plain and simple. Ukraine also provided 25% of the worlds laminated wood, amongst other things. To bring up decisions like the USA voted to spend money on Ukraine but not retail businesses is just crass and ignorant, children are being raped and murdered, I'm certain the USA can manage without some state propped up restaurants that will just lose more money. Most if not all people on this site will probably only be affected slightly by the Tsunami that is coming to the third world, maybe it will hurt you a bit more when China invades Taiwan and you can no longer get the latest tech gizmo, but probably not as you could easily fall into the category of those that died out 300 million years ago whom were so busy eating each other that they failed to notice the large rock spinning towards them....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Megasin1 said: To bring up decisions like the USA voted to spend money on Ukraine but not retail businesses is just crass and ignorant In particular when those bringing it up are pro-Republican people who (pretend to) fail to notice that It's GOP Senators who blocked the bill about retail businesses! ???? Edited May 26, 2022 by candide 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster67 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) On 5/26/2022 at 6:02 PM, Bkk Brian said: They mined all the ports did they? Seems the thieving Russian ships loading up with grain don't seem to worry too much. It also seems the Kremlin would allow ships carrying food to leave Ukrainian ports in exchange for the lifting of sanctions. Through the "safe corridor" Absolute TOSH, this grain warfare stuff is a laod of balony invented by the west to push even more propaganda onto the braindead sheep. First off this is NOT harvest season, that does not happen until October, this is PLANTING season. The Russians actually REMOVED all those Ukraine mines and opened up a safe corridor, and last week opened up a second corridor... The facts are there are NO Ukraine ships loaded with grain.... there never were. Anyway, by harvest time, ALL of Ukraine's best agricultural land will be in Russia.... So nothing to see here. Edited May 29, 2022 by Brewster67 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Brewster67 said: Absolute TOSH, this grain warfare stuff is a laod of balony invented by the west to push even more propaganda onto the braindead sheep. First off this is NOT harvest season, that does not happen until October, this is PLANTING season. The Russians actually REMOVED all those Ukraine mines and opened up a safe corridor, and last week opened up a second corridor... The facts are there are NO Ukraine ships loaded with grain.... there never were. Anyway, by harvest time, ALL of Ukraine's best agricultural land will be in Russia.... So nothing to see here. & you call my post complete tosh....lol. I provided links. You provided nothing but a nonsense rant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Brewster67 said: Absolute TOSH, this grain warfare stuff is a laod of balony invented by the west to push even more propaganda onto the braindead sheep. First off this is NOT harvest season, that does not happen until October, this is PLANTING season. The Russians actually REMOVED all those Ukraine mines and opened up a safe corridor, and last week opened up a second corridor... The facts are there are NO Ukraine ships loaded with grain.... there never were. Anyway, by harvest time, ALL of Ukraine's best agricultural land will be in Russia.... So nothing to see here. Interesting remark. However, as there is demand all year long, i would assume that the whole crop is not exported at once and a significant share of it is stored to be sold later. On top of it, markets usually anticipate on the next crop volume (in June/July, not fall), so prices go up before harvest time. Edited May 29, 2022 by candide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 4:34 PM, jingjai9 said: There is a revolution in progress, i.e. a revolution in the distribution of commodities and other goods on international markets. "True power rests in the hands of those who control the means of production and distribution." Regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine, changes in the worldwide distribution of goods are taking place. Price hikes in all sectors of manufacturing as well as the world distribution of energy will in all likelihood continue. The war in Ukraine will enable new monopolies and power centers to emerge as they form new channels of trade, With oligarchs all over the world walking hand in hand with their countries' leaders, new trade routes will emerge to satisfy the supply chain while spot shortages (real and staged) of essential goods will pop up from time to time while prices spike (and profits as well). The bottom line; the War in Ukraine will no doubt enable more than a few corporations and the oligarchs at the helm to tighten their grips on the levers of power as they get wealthier. Those who control the Arms, Commodities & Banking, continue to control the world. Nothing has changed in 1000s of year. You're either a subsistence farmer or have something worthy to barter with, or you get in line with the rest of society for your rationing ???? They provide you with just enough, as they wouldn't want a revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 6:17 AM, wombat said: Meanwhile the con job continues Actually it isn't just that little red spot. It is a whole great big country to the east called Russia which has caused the problem. If Russia had not invaded Ukraine completely unprovoked, the Ukraine would still be exporting, Russia would still be exporting, there would be no sanctions and there would be normal trade and no shortages. However, if that is what you believe, then please continue believing it. After all it is your opinion. My opinion is diametrically opposed to yours as you can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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