Trump inflated net worth by $2.2 billion, NY attorney general alleges

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Sorry I can't accept PBS as a credible or reliable souce on biden/trump issues. Just look at this absolute nonsense. Lies from start to finish and misinforming voters with dangerous conspiracy theories. Shame on you PBS

 

"And part of that effort specifically was to oust the chief prosecutor who was considered particularly ineffective. And when it came to Burisma, U.S. diplomats said that that prosecutor was ineffective because he had not pursued corruption allegations against Burisma.

So, by pushing to get the prosecutor fired, Vice President Biden was actually making it more likely that the Ukrainian government would investigate the company that had his son the board."

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/are-trump-allies-peddling-russian-disinformation-about-the-bidens

 

And for a dose of factual reality confirming the silly conspiracy theory the left establishment peddled that Burisma was paying the Biden's illicit millions to fire a complicit prosecutor in order to get a new one to ride Burisma harder (people actually believe this??!)

 

"Shocking emails reveal Hunter Biden helped coordinate a plan with Democrat strategists to 'close down any cases' against the owner of allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas firm Burisma and 'gain intelligence' on the country's top prosecutor's office."

 

Hunter Biden devised plan to 'close down' US probe into Burisma founder by Viktor Shokin - who was … https://mol.im/a/12453245

 

 

The story has internal contradictions.

[Bkk Brian]

30 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Sorry I can't accept PBS as a credible or reliable souce on biden/trump issues. Just look at this absolute nonsense. Lies from start to finish and misinforming voters with dangerous conspiracy theories. Shame on you PBS

 

"And part of that effort specifically was to oust the chief prosecutor who was considered particularly ineffective. And when it came to Burisma, U.S. diplomats said that that prosecutor was ineffective because he had not pursued corruption allegations against Burisma.

So, by pushing to get the prosecutor fired, Vice President Biden was actually making it more likely that the Ukrainian government would investigate the company that had his son the board."

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/are-trump-allies-peddling-russian-disinformation-about-the-bidens

 

And for a dose of factual reality confirming the silly conspiracy theory the left establishment peddled that Burisma was paying the Biden's illicit millions to fire a complicit prosecutor in order to get a new one to ride Burisma harder (people actually believe this??!)

 

"Shocking emails reveal Hunter Biden helped coordinate a plan with Democrat strategists to 'close down any cases' against the owner of allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas firm Burisma and 'gain intelligence' on the country's top prosecutor's office."

 

Hunter Biden devised plan to 'close down' US probe into Burisma founder by Viktor Shokin - who was … https://mol.im/a/12453245

 

 

The full lawsuit was in the link. Also available on many other media outlets. But thanks for the admission you've not read it and instead. Biden Biden biden......the cult is real....lol

[Lacessit]

21 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’d rather you stayed on topic for once.

 

 

"What about" is the stock in trade of Trump fanboys.

What I find mind-boggling are the people who contribute to his campaign fund, when they must know half of it is going in legal fees.

AFAIK he's not spending any of his own money to defend himself. Lawyers will only work for him if they are paid in advance.

It seems the more indictments that are piled on an obvious felon, the more his base sends in contributions, as witness what he raised from a scowling mugshot.

IMO his contributors set a new zenith of gullibility and stupidity.

 

[Skeptic7]

Inflated net worth, inflated ego, inflated BS, inflated abdomen, inflated jowls and scowls. This "person" is an inflated buffoon with deflated intellect. 

[Bkk Brian]

Over 2 hundred pages of direct evidence from the full lawsuit. PDF download.

 

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/tto_complaint.pdf

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

"What about" is the stock in trade of Trump fanboys.

What I find mind-boggling are the people who contribute to his campaign fund, when they must know half of it is going in legal fees.

AFAIK he's not spending any of his own money to defend himself. Lawyers will only work for him if they are paid in advance.

It seems the more indictments that are piled on an obvious felon, the more his base sends in contributions, as witness what he raised from a scowling mugshot.

IMO his contributors set a new zenith of gullibility and stupidity.

 

It's amazing to me that Trump--a self-proclaimed rich guy--has to go begging his flock to part with their measly income.  It appears even that is not enough.  His sheep will need to send more!

Trump is running out of other people's money to pay lawyers. Save America PAC is almost broke

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-running-other-peoples-money-092036400.html

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

It's amazing to me that Trump--a self-proclaimed rich guy--has to go begging his flock to part with their measly income.  It appears even that is not enough.  His sheep will need to send more!

Trump is running out of other people's money to pay lawyers. Save America PAC is almost broke

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-running-other-peoples-money-092036400.html

He's rallying the troops on truth social using all sorts of excuses to send him some dollars...

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110986448713710301

[jerrymahoney]

Well here's the bell ringer from the NY State complaint:

 

Awarding disgorgement of all financial benefits obtained by each Defendant from the fraudulent scheme, including all financial benefits from lenders and insurers through repeated and persistent fraudulent practices of an amount to be determined at trial but estimated to be $250,000,000, plus prejudgment interest;
and
Granting any additional relief the Court deems appropriate.

 

 

[Lacessit]

44 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's amazing to me that Trump--a self-proclaimed rich guy--has to go begging his flock to part with their measly income.  It appears even that is not enough.  His sheep will need to send more!

Trump is running out of other people's money to pay lawyers. Save America PAC is almost broke

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-running-other-peoples-money-092036400.html

I suspect Trump's wealth is vastly overstated, and it's a house of cards awaiting a puff of wind to collapse it.

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

Inflated net worth, inflated ego, inflated BS, inflated abdomen, inflated jowls and scowls. This "person" is an inflated buffoon with deflated intellect. 

Good one!thanks for the chuckle 

36 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I suspect Trump's wealth is vastly overstated, and it's a house of cards awaiting a puff of wind to collapse it.

Yup got 400 million and a bunch of rentals from dada squandered that now he’s reduced to grifting and duping the rubes it’s all coming to a head (collapse) it’s going to be sweet

[Peabody]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

real value is somewhere inbetween the 2 camps values

The two camps are:
1. The values submitted by him to the banks to secure loans.
2. The values stated by him on his real estate tax forms.

[billd766]

22 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

He also told them to go to Congress to fight.

 

Are you smart enough to understand that Trump gave his followers an explicit message to take the Capitol, and then threw in some weasel words to cover himself?

 

Is there any part of the above that you can't understand?

He understands it but he cannot accept it.

 

From today's (Friday) BBC News website.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66676581

 

A leader of the far-right Proud Boys has been sentenced to 17 years in prison, one of the longest sentences yet handed out over the US Capitol riot.

Prosecutors said US Army veteran Joe Biggs, 38, was an "instigator" of the storming of Congress on 6 January 2021.

The former Infowars correspondent was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other charges in May.

In court, Biggs pleaded for leniency and expressed remorse for his actions.

 

Especially for @SunnyinBangrak. More BS from Joe Biggs.

 

In court, a tearful Biggs apologised for his actions and said he was "seduced" by the crowd on the day of the riot.

"I just moved forward. My curiosity got the better of me," he added. "I'm not a terrorist. I don't have hate in my heart."

"I know that I have to be punished, and I understand," Biggs said.

 

There is more in the link.

 

 

[Woof999]

On 8/31/2023 at 9:52 AM, EVENKEEL said:

I'm sensing a lot of jealousy here regarding Trump.

Oh how I long to be orange.

 

On 8/31/2023 at 9:54 AM, EVENKEEL said:

You said yourself you're not American so you really shouldn't comment on business in the US.

Keep it in the family eh. Very American.

[Bkk Brian]

Oh dear, we all know he has no loyalty but this....................

 

Donald Trump biographer David Cay Johnston recalled on MSNBC a moment when the self-described billionaire called his sons "idiots" and anticipated that the former president will willingly throw them under the bus in the New York state financial case against the family.

Speaking on Thursday, host Nicolle Wallace cited the recently released transcript of the deposition that Trump gave to Attorney General Letitia James. She cited the bizarre moment in which Trump claimed that nuclear war might be on the horizon because he wasn't reelected in 2020.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sons-idiot/

[Lacessit]

52 minutes ago, Peabody said:

The two camps are:
1. The values submitted by him to the banks to secure loans.
2. The values stated by him on his real estate tax forms.

There is no way of knowing the full extent of the loans taken out by Trump to pay for other assets which are not part of the current indictment.

Trump refused to release his tax returns for many years. A person does not do that unless he has something to hide.

Trump has many real estate assets, acquired via loans. If those assets are losing money hand over fist, I'd say there is quite a few nervous banks.

It reminds me of a quote by Alan Bond, who went to prison for financial fraud. " If I owe a bank $50,000, I've got a problem. If I owe a bank $50 million, they're the ones who have the problem".

[Danderman123]

43 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh dear, we all know he has no loyalty but this....................

 

Donald Trump biographer David Cay Johnston recalled on MSNBC a moment when the self-described billionaire called his sons "idiots" and anticipated that the former president will willingly throw them under the bus in the New York state financial case against the family.

Speaking on Thursday, host Nicolle Wallace cited the recently released transcript of the deposition that Trump gave to Attorney General Letitia James. She cited the bizarre moment in which Trump claimed that nuclear war might be on the horizon because he wasn't reelected in 2020.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sons-idiot/

How long before the Trump cultists claim that its not Trump's fault, the idiot sons were running his business?

[placeholder]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

This Letitia James you speak of sounds familiar. There was an irrational hatefilled politician that ran for office on the fascistic and undemocratic platform of Getting Trump regardless of merit. Not one and the same surely?

 

 Anti democracy haters are naturally not very credible sources. I prefer level headed facts backed up by actual evidence.

 

 As a south Florida property owner I can state the real value is somewhere inbetween the 2 camps values. Ie both are as wrong as each other.

And if you lowball it to the feds and elevate it to bankers when seeking a loan, somewhere in there it's fraud. And tell me, did you ever take out a loan on your home based on a claim that represented it to be almost 3 times it's actual size? I think we can agree that would constitute fraud.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

There is no way of knowing the full extent of the loans taken out by Trump to pay for other assets which are not part of the current indictment.

Trump refused to release his tax returns for many years. A person does not do that unless he has something to hide.

Trump has many real estate assets, acquired via loans. If those assets are losing money hand over fist, I'd say there is quite a few nervous banks.

It reminds me of a quote by Alan Bond, who went to prison for financial fraud. " If I owe a bank $50,000, I've got a problem. If I owe a bank $50 million, they're the ones who have the problem".

As I understand it, the only reason Trump didn't lose everything in the 1980's is that banks had stupidly loaned him so much money they couldn't afford to let him fail. 

 

I also understand some bankers were doing a lot of cocaine in the '80's.  These two things might be related.

[bendejo]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

He's rallying the troops on truth social using all sorts of excuses to send him some dollars...

Full-on barking mad.

I think he was expecting there to be more 1/6 type events by now, and his head is spinning because the plan isn't happening.  Notice there are no angry patriots at his indictments, despite his call outs.  

There is the possibility that there is a pile of $$$ buried somewhere (figuratively) back 2016 when first going into the POTUS con, stashed so that if they got busted and everything was sequestered . . ..  This was possibly done via an ex-spouse of Uday and Qusay his idiot sons.  Say, how long has Don Jr been engaged to Guilfoyle?

Three things you should never pay for: religion, politics, and psychology

 

[candide]

"Trump on Truth Social accused James of defamation in an all-caps rant. "IN THE NYS A.G. LETITIA JAMES CASE, I WAS TARGETED, GIVEN NO JURY, NO EXTENSIONS, NO COMMERCIAL DIVISION, NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, NO ANYTHING!" he claimed. "THE DEMOCRAT JUDGE HATES TRUMP WITH A PASSION. THE THING I HAVE IS A GREAT CASE BASED ON PHENOMENAL NUMBERS THAT SHOW A NET WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS MORE THAN SHE VICIOUSLY & FALSELY CLAIMED, VERY LITTLE DEBT, BIG CASH, A POWERFUL DISCLAIMER CLAUSE, PAID OFF LOANS, NO DEFAULTS, 'HAPPY' BANKS, GREAT ASSETS. I WAS DEFAMED BY NYS - ELECTION INTERFERENCE!"

????

https://news.yahoo.com/defamed-trump-melts-down-truth-153129441.html

 

[Sing_Sling]

On 8/31/2023 at 1:33 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Rather have a President that falsely claims vast wealth to please his ego, than a corrupt one with vast inexplicable wealth and webs of shell companies and llc's funnelling cash to family members. For obvious reasons.

 

Basic politics 101

So, you're saying Trump has both.  Nicely done, thank you. ????

[Danderman123]

On 8/31/2023 at 2:55 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Seems like they were encouraged and egged on by agent provocateurs in the crowd like Ray Epps who were urging peaceful patriots to enter the capital building. Together with riot police not being able to step in, thanks Nancy. Sadly there was a one sided witch hunt of an inquest to present one sided garbage and no defence to keep a sense of reality. Shame really, we will likely never know the role the alphabet agencies played.

https://apnews.com/article/ray-epps-capitol-riot-jan-6-fox-38748c79cd7b6916584a5db7ca87af7a

 

It seems you are wrong.

[ozimoron]

If we need confirmation that Trump Jr is not very bright, this is it.

 

The X (formerly known as Twitter) account of former US President Donald Trump Jr was hacked for some time and a series of false posts went out from it.

 

https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/donald-trump-is-dead-claims-hacked-x-account-of-former-us-presidents-son-399116-2023-09-20

[Bkk Brian]

Donald Trump’s New York Business Empire Must Be Dissolved, Judge Rules

New York judge on Tuesday canceled the certificates of the key businesses behind Donald Trump's empire, ordering a quick timeline to dissolve the Trump Organization and other corporate entities.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron's blockbuster ruling found that the former president and his business leaders failed to correct course after being warned of a "propensity to engage in persistent fraud."

Engoron found that New York Attorney General Letitia James has proven her fraud claims without the need for a trial on that issue. Her lawsuit sought $250 million in damages, and six other counts against Trump, his family, and his business associates, who have been gearing up for a court fight in October.

https://themessenger.com/politics/new-york-trump-organization-judge-new-york-letitia-james

[Bkk Brian]

Its official, Trump has been ruled a fraudster:

 

Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating Value Of Assets: Judge

Donald Trump and his sons Eric and Don Jr committed fraud by inflating the value of the real estate and financial assets of the Trump Organization for years, a New York judge ruled on Tuesday.

The ruling by Judge Arthur Engoron is a setback for the former president ahead of a trial in the civil case due to begin on Monday.

https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-committed-fraud-by-inflating-value-of-assets-judge-4a019abe

[2baht]

On 8/31/2023 at 8:33 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Rather have a President that falsely claims vast wealth to please his ego, than a corrupt one with vast inexplicable wealth and webs of shell companies and llc's funnelling cash to family members. For obvious reasons.

 

Basic politics 101

Trump does such a good job of making his followers look absolutely stupid, how can ANYONE believe this lowlife, lying grifter??? Git er dun!

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

On 9/1/2023 at 9:15 AM, Bkk Brian said:

He's rallying the troops on truth social using all sorts of excuses to send him some dollars...

 

If I may correct you.

 

Not ‘troops’ 

 

‘Marks’.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

On 9/1/2023 at 9:58 AM, Lacessit said:

I suspect Trump's wealth is vastly overstated, and it's a house of cards awaiting a puff of wind to collapse it.

I’ve been saying for a longtime, I believe I’m wealthier than Donald Trump, as is anyone else who assets are worth more than their debts.

 

 

[Lacessit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve been saying for a longtime, I believe I’m wealthier than Donald Trump, as is anyone else who assets are worth more than their debts.

 

 

Apparently there's a judge in New York that agrees.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If it holds up, I say good... punish him to the full extent of the law.  Now let's concentrate on the rest of the story... Hunter Biden received wires that originated in Beijing for more than $250,000 from Chinese business partners during the summer of 2019 — wires that listed the Delaware home of Joe Biden as the beneficiary address for the funds

Lets see that proved in a court of law. This both sides-ism is ridiculous, really.