On 10/25/2024 at 10:08 PM, Yellowtail said:

I don't know what moderate means. 

 

How much bode contact are you expecting on the first date with a collage girl, unless it's a dating site, in which case take them for lunch and back to the room service. yuou

 

Are you wanting a relationship or a sausage casing?

I had put aside 2500 baht per date, but it came out much less. The flight and hotel were the main items, the whole trip was 560 baht. 

 

I did expect full sex on the first date and indeed aunch or dinner was planned in. I actually was not averse to either. 

On 10/25/2024 at 10:27 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

When you meet them ask them for a BJ. Look how they react. And then continue from there. 

Rather oddly this may have been the best advice of the whole thread. Snoopy refused at first, but when asked she delivered rather well. 

On 10/26/2024 at 6:39 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Have you seen them on webcam? they will look different to the photos, so first date is best to be a quick coffee, if they are ok then go to a more impressive place

This also excellent advice. I did check them both on webcam before the trip. Snoopy actually looked worse on webcam than in real life. Way worse. 

 

On 10/26/2024 at 7:37 PM, CharlieH said:

 

You obviously don't know that that the Premier Cinema has double beds not seats !

I did not know that Charlie, but it suspect getting in on there is rather frowned upon and could get you thrown out. Thanks for the tip though. 

18 hours ago, Dan O said:

Hahaha your paying them anyway so why the "dating info " request? 

I did not pay them, apart from taxi fare and lunch or dinner, kanom etc. 

14 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Don't waste your time and money. Ask them to come to meet you at BKK, one or more at same time...):

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Excellent advice but the girls were at opposite ends of Bangkok, so I had to be in the middle to keep trip times doable. 

I just asked AI to write a summary:

 

Day 1: Arrival

• Took BTS to Silom but found a taxi would be better next time due to walking in the heat.

• Stayed in Silom to minimize travel times between appointments with different people.

• Arranged to meet Miki, an Isaan student, at the hotel, but she got into a family dispute and couldn't come.

Day 2: Miki shows up

• Met Miki at Imperial World Samrong after a long text exchange.

• Went to a fair in Samrong, which was extremely crowded and hot.

• Returned to the hotel after, where Miki was impressed by the Premier suite. Had a memorable night together.

Day 3: Snoopy arrives

• Met Snoopy, a 7-11 worker, at the hotel.

• Spent the day together, mostly in bed, and went for dinner.

• Snoopy found out you'd arrived in Bangkok earlier than she thought, causing her to get upset and leave.

Day 4: Exploring Bangkok

• Explored Bangkok as plans with a Filipina fell through.

• Had lunch at Din Tai Fung and did some sightseeing.

• Despite some hiccups, the trip was enjoyable and the budget stayed reasonable.

The main takeaway: Bangkok is filled with stunning experiences and interesting people, but always be cautious about personal details.

45 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I did not pay them, apart from taxi fare and lunch or dinner, kanom etc. 

Yeah but will it turn out that way?

Some outtakes you won't find in AI:

 

I had been chatting a few days with Snoopy via Line and she seemed very clear she wanted a long term rel.

 

At one point she asked if I want to be her friend, I said sure, and she came down on me like a tonne of bricks, "what do you mean friend, lovers are lovers and can never be friends, friend are friends"...

 

She made clear she was okay to move to Chiang Mai but would need 10000 Baht a month because she had a bought a condo and she had  to pay the mortgage. She made 18000 at 711.  I said no problem, but let's take it step by step, and again she lost it, interpreting that as a sign I was not fully committed.

 

She was quite intense, just like her love making. She must have been disappointed when she found out I'd lied and arrived 2 days early, clearly to meet another girl, but I was still disappointed she did not show up for day 2.  It did not seem like such a terrible thing. But she'd had 7 boyfriends she said and was clearly in no mood to take anything less than total truthfulness. I tried to persuade her and would have scuceeded if it had not been for her fat roommate/tenant interfering and asking her to come eat Shabu.

 

How strange, that a girl can go from 12 hours of intimacy, submission and sweetness to rock hard rejection for such a small thing. Even though she was not really material for a long term rel, still, she was quite a strong character. A bit too strong perhaps.

On 10/26/2024 at 11:20 AM, NowNow said:

If it's a real date: https://www.dreamworld.co.th

 

But what happened to your girlfriend?

 

On October 6th she told me she had to go to Roi Et because the land her father left her had to be transferred, sub-divided. I lived with her for a year by then and though I have a rule not to let them travel alone, I had to work and I trusted her. So I got a ticket for her, gave her travel money and she left.

 

Despite me making clear I wanted regular updates, she texted sporadically and did not call. This made me uneasy and I pushed hard for her to update me. I asked for photos. She did not send them. Her story started to become increasingly incredulous. I openly asked her if she was having sex with someone, of course she refused. She would disappear 16 and 20 hours at a stretch. Clearly something was amiss.

 

She returned, not after 7 days but 13. After the first day I asked to see her phone. She gave it to me. I found a video she'd sent to her sister. Her face was an inch from a pug faced Euro dude of about 50 years of age, her arms around him, he kissed her as she collapsed in laughter. 

 

I confronted her. She admitted she slept with him. At that point I screamed at her to pack and get out of the house. She did. As she left the house I gave her a light kick in the derriere. At first I refused to give her the phone I had bought for her and told her to f off, but I took pity and threw the phone in the street for her. She left. After 15 minutes I felt bad, how I threw her out. I knew she had only 300 Baht at most. I drove after her and asked her if she wants a ride somewhere. She said to the bus station. As she sat crying in my car I asked her for some more details. She claimed she spent only a day with him, but I don't believe her. How can you believe anything she says at this point? Anyway, I drove her to the bus station. She had to buy a ticket but had no money. 

 

I bought it from a short old lady. She asked "VIP"? I said, do you have a cheap category for cheap cheaters who bang Farangs secretly, but apparently they don't have this category. I got the ticket. She said "Bye". I said Bye with a look of disgust and left. She had to wait 5 hours for the bus and had 100 Baht.

 

This is what happened with my girlfriend.

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

On October 6th she told me she had to go to Roi Et because the land her father left her had to be transferred, sub-divided. I lived with her for a year by then and though I have a rule not to let them travel alone, I had to work and I trusted her. So I got a ticket for her, gave her travel money and she left.

 

Despite me making clear I wanted regular updates, she texted sporadically and did not call. This made me uneasy and I pushed hard for her to update me. I asked for photos. She did not send them. Her story started to become increasingly incredulous. I openly asked her if she was having sex with someone, of course she refused. She would disappear 16 and 20 hours at a stretch. Clearly something was amiss.

 

She returned, not after 7 days but 13. After the first day I asked to see her phone. She gave it to me. I found a video she'd sent to her sister. Her face was an inch from a pug faced Euro dude of about 50 years of age, her arms around him, he kissed her as she collapsed in laughter. 

 

I confronted her. She admitted she slept with him. At that point I screamed at her to pack and get out of the house. She did. As she left the house I gave her a light kick in the derriere. At first I refused to give her the phone I had bought for her and told her to f off, but I took pity and threw the phone in the street for her. She left. After 15 minutes I felt bad, how I threw her out. I knew she had only 300 Baht at most. I drove after her and asked her if she wants a ride somewhere. She said to the bus station. As she sat crying in my car I asked her for some more details. She claimed she spent only a day with him, but I don't believe her. How can you believe anything she says at this point? Anyway, I drove her to the bus station. She had to buy a ticket but had no money. 

 

I bought it from a short old lady. She asked "VIP"? I said, do you have a cheap category for cheap cheaters who bang Farangs secretly, but apparently they don't have this category. I got the ticket. She said "Bye". I said Bye with a look of disgust and left. She had to wait 5 hours for the bus and had 100 Baht.

 

This is what happened with my girlfriend.

 

 

 

I don't know what else to tell you other than you are thinking with your little brain. Best you get yourself a Sugar Daddy cap and be done with it. Don't fool yourself anymore.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She made clear she was okay to move to Chiang Mai but would need 10000 Baht a month

Thai yield curve, forsake money in the short term for a bigger payoff down the road.

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Thai yield curve, forsake money in the short term for a bigger payoff down the road.

 

10k per month, all expenses paid. A real girlfriend 😊

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

 

10k per month, all expenses paid. A real girlfriend 😊

..and of course she's going to need a car as all her friends have one.

15 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Thai yield curve, forsake money in the short term for a bigger payoff down the road.

 

No, she bought a condo. If she moved to another city that would mean losing her job. But she'd still have to make the repayment on the condo.

 

So, 10000 would have been perfectly reasonable. A typical moderate allowance. After all she'd have given up her job to move where you are. 

 

I don't think that was gold digging or unreasonable.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, she bought a condo. If she moved to another city that would mean losing her job. But she'd still have to make the repayment on the condo.

 

So, 10000 would have been perfectly reasonable. A typical moderate allowance. After all she'd have given up her job to move where you are. 

 

I don't think that was gold digging or unreasonable.

So you met her once for the first time and she is moving to be with you, but at a cost of Bt10,000/month. I'm sure no other financial commitments/requirements will emerge.

6 minutes ago, mokwit said:

So you met her once for the first time and she is moving to be with you, but at a cost of Bt10,000. I'm sure no other financial commitments will emerge.

 

No, no, no, I felt something was "off" about this girl. Her demand for the 10000 upfront was very unusual and direct. She was also very intense when she doubted if I wanted a long term rel. Despite being unbelievably good in bed, she had some skin issues and she was only a 7 in the grand scheme of things.

 

So I did not consider her real long term rel material in the end. However, I respect her honesty and upfront attitude.

 

Ultimately she snooped through my papers, which is a big "no-no" for me. So yah, she was not my preferred option. Though a wildcat in bed.

 

I mean there is a reason why I saw her second, and not first. My qualifying was spot on.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Though a wildcat in bed.

Sometimes the only way to shut this  off is to build her a house and buy her SUV, after which it shuts off. In more serious cases you have to build the Mother and the Aunt a house before it shuts down.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, no, no, I felt something was "off" about this girl. Her demand for the 10000 upfront was very unusual and direct. She was also very intense when she doubted if I wanted a long term rel. Despite being unbelievably good in bed, she had some skin issues and she was only a 7 in the grand scheme of things.

 

So I did not consider here real long term rel material in the end. However, I respect her honesty and upfront attitude.

 

Ultimately she snooped through my papers, which is a big "no-no" for me. So yah, she was not my preferred option. Though a wildcat in bed.

 

Whereas you being a cheat is indicative of you being relationship material? 

 

 

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Sometimes the only way to shut this  off is to build her a house and buy her SUV, after which it shuts off. In more serious cases you have to build the Mother and the Aunt a house before it shuts down.

 

Family really is the ultimate nightmare. The family of the first girl ruined my first night. I like that girl, but I would forever be at war with her family. I understand they keep borrowing money from her as well.

 

Friends and family, are the ultimate enemies of the boyfriend. Time and time again, this has proven to be the case.

Just now, NowNow said:

 

Whereas you being a cheat is indicative of you being relationship material? 

 

 

 

Now it's "cheating" if you have sex BEFORE you meet her? Before you even have a relationship?

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Family really is the ultimate nightmare. The family of the first girl ruined my first night. I like that girl, but I would forever be at war with her family. I understand they keep borrowing money from her as well.

 

Friend and family, are the ultimate enemies of the boyfriend. Time and time again, this has proven to be the case.

 

No. The mother is good and saved her daughter from a cheating and lying predator with an STD. Honesty...remember?

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

 

No. The mother is good and saved her daughter from a cheating and lying predator with an STD. Honesty...remember?

 

Not honesty, pure nonsense.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Now it's "cheating" if you have sex BEFORE you meet her? Before you even have a relationship?

 

 

 

Yes. You know that you are deceitful on many levels. Trying to rationalise it here, is a bit sad really.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not honesty, pure nonsense.

 

So you aren't a cheating and lying predator?

Just now, NowNow said:

 

So you aren't a cheating and lying predator?

 

Definitely not a cheater. I may have withheld one small detail from the second girl, that I arrived two days earlier. That was purely to spare her feelings.

 

I did it for her, as Patrice O'Neal said. 

 

I'm a humanist really.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Definitely not a cheater. I may have withheld one small detail from the second girl, that I arrived two days earlier. That was purely to spare her feelings.

 

I did it for her, as Patrice O'Neal said. 

 

I'm a humanist really.

 

 

Did you tell her that you still had a Filipina to meet and that you would let her know if she got the job?

Just now, NowNow said:

 

 

Did you tell her that you still had a Filipina to meet and that you would let her know if she got the job?

 

By the time I met Snoopy the Filipina had not confirmed and had not responded to texts anymore, so I understood the likelihood of her turning up in Bangkok like she said she would was close to none. 

 

Unfortunately, my carelessness of not checking a receipt for a deposit by the hotel, coupled with Snoopy's snoopiness, led to her not returning to the hotel for day 2, as we had agreed. 

 

I was quite taken aback by this, because even if one withheld the info of arriving 2 days earlier, she had no proof of me having another girl in the room. She simply took no chances. Despite offers of Michelin starred restaurant, shopping trip at Siam Paragaon, apologies on bended knees, nothing would sway her. 

 

She would not have got the job, maybe she could sense that.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

By the time I met Snoopy the Filipina had not confirmed and had not responded to texts anymore, so I understood the likelihood of her turning up in Bangkok like she said she would was close to none. 

 

Unfortunately, my carelessness of not checking a receipt for a deposit by the hotel, coupled with Snoopy's snoopiness, led to her not returning to the hotel for day 2, as we had agreed. 

 

I was quite taken aback by this, because even if one withheld the info of arriving 2 days earlier, she had no proof of me having another girl in the room. She simply took no chances. Despite offers of Michelin starred restaurant, shopping trip at Siam Paragaon, apologies on bended knees, nothing would sway her. 

 

She would not have got the job, maybe she could sense that.

 

Did you tell her that you also had a third girl organised...just in case?

 

Did you tell her about your STD issue?

 

All these 'little' omissions....

25 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Yes. You know that you are deceitful on many levels. Trying to rationalise it here, is a bit sad really.

 

How can it be "cheating" if we've not even met  yet? And we're not in a relationship yet? It's just normal dating.

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

How can it be "cheating" if we've not even met  yet? And we're not in a relationship yet? It's just normal dating.

 

 

 

Your standard is low. You cannot expect a high standards when you come with such low standards. One day you might understand. But I doubt it.