Denver's nut job mayor to head the resistance.

[Thingamabob]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:37 PM, Cryingdick said:

 

I have never heard a reasonable explanation off why you would willingly let anybody and everybody in unvetted, even during a pandemic.

 

Not just willingly letting them in but actively encouraging them to do so.,

In many countries the left regard the illegals as potential supporters.

[harryviking]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:10 PM, Cryingdick said:

 

Reborn into a third world hellhole rife with crime and violence. 

That is what I am afraid of. You might be correct on that one....sad but true...😖

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

It is not my job to address the problem of taking care of  the 4 million + (your figures) children you keep mentioning about.  This is why Trump has appointed Tom Homan as border czar.  As former temporary acting head of ICE he is well aware of the complexities of the job.  Since you are so worried I suggest you contact him with your concerns.

What happens to the children of regular US citizens who break the law and are sent to prison? They are not the government's responsibility except in dire circumstances. 

[cardinalblue]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:47 PM, Hawaiian said:

Seems as if you do not understand my post.  You keep repeating how the mayor is an outstanding family man, etc.  The fact is these are illegal immigrants, many of them violent criminals.  They entered this country illegally and should not be allowed to stay.  Why have immigration laws if they are not enforced?

Here is the problem I have with your post…like your resume, you inflate your statements…your “many illegals” equate to 5% of illegals have committed crime compared to adjusted data which is only half when compared to US citizens committing crimes

 

US current deportation focus is to deport all illegals who commit crimes…why you say? Because that is all the money that has been budgeted…if you want more, then increase the budget drum roll to a practical number…

 

trump makes this incredible stupid statements that’ all illegals immigrants will be imported…at what cost? Do the math 

 

that is over a trillion dollars if they deported a million a year over eleven years…who is picking up theses costs…taxpayers…trump’s history is he is the 3rd most president to increase the deficit…he is part of the problem like Biden…both presidents have continued to add to inflation/cost of living going up over the last 8 years

 

there are illegal grandmothers who have been in the country 20years…what’s the point of deporting them? The biggest issue is the illegal workforce that contributes mightily to the US surging economy…they serve a useful purpose…it’s not like they are taking desirable jobs away from citizens? If you want to clean up an area…clean up an area try work comp…the fraud by US citizens  to get disability insurance  (meaning not work b/c they don’t want to work) is off the charts…get those people back to work rather than paying then not to work 

 

don't fall for this “ throw out the baby with the bath water”  syndrome…
 

trump’s 4 years of immigrant policy and deportation already has been unimpressive…”judge them by what they do and not what they say”…one needs to comprehend that statement clearly….tell me again who paid for the existing 300 mile museum of a wall? What a waste of taxpayers money by someone who talks in generalities yet accomplishes very little 

Edited 10 hours ago by cardinalblue

[Hawaiian]

43 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Here is the problem I have with your post…like your resume, you inflate your statements…your “many illegals” equate to 5% of illegals have committed crime compared to adjusted data which is only half when compared to US citizens committing crimes

 

US current deportation focus is to deport all illegals who commit crimes…why you say? Because that is all the money that has been budgeted…if you want more, then increase the budget drum roll to a practical number…

 

trump makes this incredible stupid statements that’ all illegals immigrants will be imported…at what cost? Do the math 

 

that is over a trillion dollars if they deported a million a year over eleven years…who is picking up theses costs…taxpayers…trump’s history is he is the 3rd most president to increase the deficit…he is part of the problem like Biden…both presidents have continued to add to inflation/cost of living going up over the last 8 years

 

there are illegal grandmothers who have been in the country 20years…what’s the point of deporting them? The biggest issue is the illegal workforce that contributes mightily to the US surging economy…they serve a useful purpose…it’s not like they are taking desirable jobs away from citizens? If you want to clean up an area…clean up an area try work comp…the fraud by US citizens  to get disability insurance  (meaning not work b/c they don’t want to work) is off the charts…get those people back to work rather than paying then not to work 

 

don't fall for this “ throw out the baby with the bath water”  syndrome…
 

trump’s 4 years of immigrant policy and deportation already has been unimpressive…”judge them by what they do and not what they say”…one needs to comprehend that statement clearly….tell me again who paid for the existing 300 mile museum of a wall? What a waste of taxpayers money by someone who talks in generalities yet accomplishes very little 

Whose resume are you talking about?

If Donald Trump accomplishes very little, then why worry about his deportation plan?  And if what you say is true don't waste your time posting all those numbers since it ain't going to happen.

Edited 9 hours ago by Hawaiian

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

You act like you are an expert of U.S. criminal law.  Is that why you posted word for word from the same online source I read?

Which source is that?  

I do not purport to be a legal expert, but I am quite capable of reading statutes and making the appropriate reference.

What have I stated that is factually incorrect?

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

What happens to the children of regular US citizens who break the law and are sent to prison? They are not the government's responsibility except in dire circumstances. 

 

They are indeed the responsibility of state agencies. Where have you been for the past century? When a caregiver is incapacitated, detained or otherwise unavailable, the minor is placed in state custody.  Prior to transfer of custody of a minor, it is a requirement that a  review of the prospective caregiver be undertaken.

All of these measures requires personnel, and money.

[Patong2021]

On 11/27/2024 at 3:10 PM, Cryingdick said:

 

After all it is only a handful of apartment complexes controlled by violent Venezuelan gangs in the Denver area. 

 

The Denver area is not the city of  Denver. Aurora where the buildings are located, is its own municipality and has a Republican mayor.

The Republican mayor has never said that his city had a Venezuelan gan problem. There were only allegations made by a few people who wanted to be relocated from the slum tenements. Despite police surveillance, Aurora PD found no evidence of gang control of  the buildings.

The buildings were shut down for health reasons The landlord needed an excuse to justify the neglect of the property.