Thailand Faces Alarming Graduate Unemployment, 65% Struggle to Find Jobs

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It was you who wanted unemployed 18 years old to visit your house and earn some money doing an undisclosed unpublicised  job 

 

and it was you who projected your sick desires in response.

you need help.

[atpeace]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

My experience was that I would hire a contractor for a specific job (painting for example)….they would then subcontract it to someone else who would then further subcontract it to a supervisor and workers.  It was absolutely ridiculous.  I went through 4 different painting crews that didn’t even have a notion of painting in a straight line and not slopping it on window frames and door frames that were a different color.  I did my best job supervising but my (now ex) girlfriend would chastise me for doing so.  One of the workers literally told her the following day that he was so stressed that he couldn’t even eat that night….and of course, it was all my fault 🤦‍♂️.

 

There wasn’t a single thing in my 2 million baht renovation that wasn’t a complete snafu.  From the painting, to the flooring, the kitchen, the countertops, the electrical….all of it.

 

I think that when you have the lowest iq people doing the work at the bottom of a chain of people taking their cut, you basically have monkeys doing the job.  Even trying to supervise them directly and showing YouTube videos of how a job is supposed to be done correctly I would be told “This is not how we do this in Thailand”. And when there would be times that they would say “yes…I understand”….they would then just continue as usual.   That is when Rampant told me that it’s just best to do the job myself.  In the end, with so many re-dos of things that I couldn’t do myself (such as the countertops that had to be replaced, wiring redone, etc etc….I doubt there was very much profit in it for anyone.

 

So…what does this have to do with university grads who can’t find jobs?   They should go into the trades and do things right the first time and at a level of quality (that requires some amount of intelligence/IQ) to where they can actually make better money…and much better than being a desk jockey where they probably don’t contribute much and have little job satisfaction.   Wishful thinking I’m sure because any manual labor is “low class” which is why you see them grow their pinky fingernails long as a sign that they don’t work with their hands.

 

Back in the US, I renovated a mid century modern doing the lions share of the work myself and I agree….the people who worked with me were for the most part useless with the exception of one contractor who lived in the neighborhood who would actually come, look at a job…and if it was something he thought I could do myself, he would recommend I do so.

Sensible post and I bet I'm a little more accepting of imperfections for better or worse.  Smiled at the GF comment.  I adore my woman and decided that a house wasn't worth recking a relationship. I live in a small Thai tourist town and people aren't familiar with westerners.  She accepts imperfection ( she is with me 🙂 )and is fine paying too much at times.  I've adapted 🙂

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

and it was you who projected your sick desires in response.

you need help.

 

   So, what work was you going to offer the young girls ?

Its not me who wants young unemployed girls to visit my house to do some "work" 

[proton]

8 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Hmmmmmmmmmm how to answer, none so blind  that they cant see. Or lets  say "standards" vary between people. Most work here is crap. Oh and to the other poster commenting on language abiliuty, doesnt matter what language you speak it makes no difference to the outcome of the job..........Wife spends  all day trying to find workers to do jobs  let me find some pics of what she sends me of Thai repair work....its comical.... here few  weeks  ago workman fittined new hob............. the quality shines thru! but wait let me guess its my Wifes  fault for this almost weekly occurence, and that of her friends in the same line of  business and all the other lnadlords she's known over the last 20 years. No wait again , let me guess, you get what you pay for right..........so 1000 baht for fitting a  hob in a hole thats already there. Got it, I mean it is a whole hours work  after all ( sarcasm off)ok last try "would you work for 1000 baht  a day" yes  happily as its  not relevant, in the UK Id  be happy to get double the usual daily rate..........  neve r mind Im  sure they can do grouting right ......oops maybe not.........as an insight wife rents rooms out as do all her friends this is the " quality" they normally get. Three different rooms, the last "leaking" one had been "fixed" days before............yes  siliocne fixes everything in Thailand, the room this happened in they gave up an asked me to fix it, I told them silocone wont fix  it you need to retile your balcony which had been done by the developer  years ago " badly" nas in most cases Thai tiling whilst looking pwetty is not done well, tap all the tiles in your hosue and see how many are  hollow..........They asked me to strip and retile their balcony in the end , which I did for free as they were nieghbours in the same building. The tiles literally fell off their balcony My Re tiled photos, 30+ years on construction in the UK. all these photo just in the last few months but this goes on month after month. The  leak in the ceiling the office told them was !silicone" round the neighbour aboves windows so they neatly resealed it............I told the neighbour it was the balcony tiling that was <deleted>, and as soon as I ripped the floor out there was a great big  tennis  ball sized hole under the tiles into the room underneath letting in water with heavy rain on their balcony..........never mind the office " fixed" it with silicone..........except it did nothing.

But my personal favourite and outright winner for the year is the fitting of an extractor fan, the owner of this room wanted it through the ceiling or boxed in but got this,,, several attempts mistakes  later the brackets  really make it shine......what she requested was in the last photo of a kitchen I did boxed in with REd section highlighted........Oh yeah I have  nothing to do with this quality work but I send  my Wife photos of what she wants to show them before any work is done. grout etc Last shots the balcony I was asked to fix, tuiles  fell off, floor  jet washed, sealed with pva and retiled with proper tile adhesive not slop cement.....hole in corenr that was letting in water UNDER the loose  tiles, that according to " maintenance" was leak round window (NOT)

 

 

Looks pretty typical for here. My best laughs were also tiling where he did not even use the correct trowel and adhesive, would not use spacers insisting string was better. An 'electrician' who when told to make sure a shower heater was earthed asked what that meant, and the patio extension cracked and falling away as is the roof over it. For some reason I have found them excellent at wallpapering though.

Edited Wednesday at 03:05 PM by proton

[Bobthegimp]

13 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

I asked what job she would do after getting her degree and she could not answer as she did not know

 

Waiting for her inheritance from you, of course!

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

They use the same formula as that for traffic deaths. 😋

Ahhhh

[Ralf001]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So, what work was you going to offer the young girls ?

Its not me who wants young unemployed girls to visit my house to do some "work" 

 

you brought girls into your sick desires... not me.

[Nick Carter icp]

16 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Uni grads are typical 18+ years old ?

 

Ive some part time work they can help me with at my house !

 

15 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

you brought girls into your sick desires... not me.

 

   Your post before I posted . 

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   Your post before I posted . 

 

can please show me where in my post genders were mentioned.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

can please show me where in my post genders were mentioned.

 

   What job are you going to offer the males ?

[Celsius]

On 11/26/2024 at 8:18 PM, saakura said:

Graduated from which University, what faculty and grades will make a huge difference. We just recruited a gold medallist graduate engineer (specializing in engines) from a prominent Bangkok based university at a starting salary of 38,000 Baht plus small perks.

 

My wife deals with Thai engineers all the time. Some of the stupidest people around. I guess that is why her salary is 100k a month because she needs to teach them basics when she goes and visits factories. Every single engineer her company hired in the past 15 years has been fired, yet they kept her - a simple girl who started as a simple sales woman.

 

Oh, and they also like to scam. Watch your back.

Edited Thursday at 01:14 AM by Celsius

[Rampant Rabbit]

On 11/27/2024 at 6:00 PM, atpeace said:

but I still wonder how all his projects were a disaster.  Were they supervised?

you seem to be under the impression these are "my" jobs, theyre nothing to do with me, my Wife  works in real estate she regularly gets asked to fix  things for owners in numerous rooms , all these are of rooms in the last few months where workmen have turned up to " fix"  stuff, sometimes its  the buildings  technical man whose done the work other times other contractors, some even from Homepro.

If she mentions the work being wrong they ALWAYS say that another way it either cant be done  that way ( which is  usually a lie and they think what does she know etc) or they dont know how to do it themselves or are too lazy or a combination of all three, and sometiomes theyll just plain  leave, they dont do criticism well at all NO MATTER how you put it and as shes Thai she knows only too well anything has to be said in extremely gentle  ways. Its not just her, nuemrous ladnlords have the same issue, its at the point now when they ask her she'll either decline or say she'll try but cannot guarantee itll be good as the landlord themselves have tried and also failed to find a single decent worker.

Its been like this for YEARS think 15+ as shes been doing that kind of work since the days when new condos  announced were sold out and people used to queue down the road to put down a deposit on them. Who remembers that period?

I have almost nothing to do with any of it but  show her how it should be done usually with photos and you tube videos which she'll show the workers who of course " say can do" as we live far apart ie  250km but meet  up  every few weeks as I dont want to live in BKK.

You can see the same mistakes over and over through hundreds of rooms. An easy example is  look at  where Thais put a  door stop.............right close to the bottom door  hinge so when the door  hits it it starts to rip off the bottom hinge using the power of leverage when it should be farthest from the hinge at the end of the door arc. Go check your own door stops

[Rampant Rabbit]

On 11/27/2024 at 6:00 PM, atpeace said:

That is going to be extremely difficult to fix because the wires are in the walls

No, if  in conduit you can just  pull thru the new cables.

[Hummin]

A cousin of wife, finished university 2 years ago, and got a degree in law. Was prospected for work with emigration at Suvarnabhumi for the cost of 100k to be an apprentice, but got work at a clinic, who do cosmetic beauty make overs and surgery. First in sale, but now operating different stimulating machines, and have a salery around 40k in a month. 

 

They wanted to borrow money from us, but wife told them no, and now she is gratefull we didnt pay up for her. 

Edited yesterday at 01:25 AM by Hummin

[Hummin]

On 11/26/2024 at 10:20 PM, Chris Daley said:

Most graduates are rich.  They have had dad pay for everything since birth and they will never work a day in their lives.

 

The gap between the rich and the poor is disgusting.  I saw one of them standing next to his super car then he started kicking a dog for no reason.  Scum of earth.

Oh really? How do you know? 

 

Poor people do not send their kids to university now? 

[Hummin]

The problem with Thailand, the numbers of slots for each and one subject, doesnt mirror the needs for now or in 10 years. 

[connda]

Unless you are a STEM graduate, a university degree is no better than tissue paper.

[Hummin]

On 11/28/2024 at 7:39 AM, Ralf001 said:

 

you brought girls into your sick desires... not me.

Boys then? 

[connda]

Thailand Faces Alarming Graduate Unemployment, 65% Struggle to Find Jobs

 

Always can work in the fields.  Take one of those jobs that Myanmar migrants do.

[Airalee]

On 11/28/2024 at 8:08 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What job are you going to offer the males ?

Pay no attention to the gaslighting narcissist

[atpeace]

5 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

No, if  in conduit you can just  pull thru the new cables.

A man just showed up and will be doing it now 🙂  Other than having the hots for my wife, he seems to be OK.

[atpeace]

5 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

you seem to be under the impression these are "my" jobs, theyre nothing to do with me, my Wife  works in real estate she regularly gets asked to fix  things for owners in numerous rooms , all these are of rooms in the last few months where workmen have turned up to " fix"  stuff, sometimes its  the buildings  technical man whose done the work other times other contractors, some even from Homepro.

If she mentions the work being wrong they ALWAYS say that another way it either cant be done  that way ( which is  usually a lie and they think what does she know etc) or they dont know how to do it themselves or are too lazy or a combination of all three, and sometiomes theyll just plain  leave, they dont do criticism well at all NO MATTER how you put it and as shes Thai she knows only too well anything has to be said in extremely gentle  ways. Its not just her, nuemrous ladnlords have the same issue, its at the point now when they ask her she'll either decline or say she'll try but cannot guarantee itll be good as the landlord themselves have tried and also failed to find a single decent worker.

Its been like this for YEARS think 15+ as shes been doing that kind of work since the days when new condos  announced were sold out and people used to queue down the road to put down a deposit on them. Who remembers that period?

I have almost nothing to do with any of it but  show her how it should be done usually with photos and you tube videos which she'll show the workers who of course " say can do" as we live far apart ie  250km but meet  up  every few weeks as I dont want to live in BKK.

You can see the same mistakes over and over through hundreds of rooms. An easy example is  look at  where Thais put a  door stop.............right close to the bottom door  hinge so when the door  hits it it starts to rip off the bottom hinge using the power of leverage when it should be farthest from the hinge at the end of the door arc. Go check your own door stops

No argument here.  I've just had better experiences than you it seems and we get lots of work done for little money vs the USA. Subcontractors are in high demand in Thailand and the USA which enables them to treat clients poorly and do shoddy work  if they are that type of person that doesn't care.  You and your wife are doing many more projects and can't supervise each job closely which is not my situation. I have too much time 🙂

[rickudon]

Back to the original post, yes, hard for graduates to find Jobs. My Thai nephew finished technical college in 2019, and was promised a government civil engineering job, but told had to wait for new year when they would have funding for the post. Then Covid. Job never happened. He spent 3 years killing chickens for his Dad part-time, apart for a few months doing some dodgy online computer stuff ( I think it was for an online gambling site). Finally got a job in Bangkok end of 2023 using his qualifications.

Two nieces both did accountancy, elder one got a good job, the younger one got exploited by employer who demanded overtime every evening and never paid for it, also often not paid on time. In the end just left and got a shop job.

 

I do agree too many do crap degrees with little chance of related work.

 

In the UK graduates also find jobs hard to get. These days often need to do over a hundred applications to get a decent job. Son had a first Batchelors degree and then a masters from Cambridge, still took him a couple of years, eventually became a civil  servant (but not in his speciality). Now, with a 3 year University degree costing you 50,000-60,000 GBP, then taking 20 plus years to pay off, it is questionable if a degree is a sensible financial decision, except for a few subjects.