Zelinsky: The End Is Near

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

I think its about time some of you started watching RT and see what Putin and Lavrov have to say on the matter, you were fed BS for 3 years, so maybe now you shoold hear what the other side says and compare it with your favourite fake news outlets

 

There's a reason RT is banned in many western locales, and links to same on certain forums.

 

Compare transcriptions of speeches there to what you find in your local media.  More often than not, you'll find a "journalist's" paraphrased and quote-mined version of what was said massaged to fit the preferred narrative.

[SunnyinBangrak]

47 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

There's a reason RT is banned in many western locales, and links to same on certain forums.

 

Compare transcriptions of speeches there to what you find in your local media.  More often than not, you'll find a "journalist's" paraphrased and quote-mined version of what was said massaged to fit the preferred narrative.

Exactly like the lefty CBS did with Kamalas interview? They should be banned by the same rationale? Oh? Why not.....

[NoDisplayName]

24 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Exactly like the lefty CBS did with Kamalas interview? They should be banned by the same rationale? Oh? Why not.....

 

I'll raise you one rayciss "white hispanic" Zimmerman 911 call transcript.

 

For the confused folk, Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious person wandering in the neighborhood in the dark.

 

Very little of the conversation between Zimmerman and the 911 operator was included in the news reports, except for where the operator asked if the interloper was white black or asian.  Zimmerman responded "I think he's black."  The news agencies ran with that claiming that he was calling about BLack man in a white neighborhood, and Zimmerman's claimed ethnicity of hispanic was altered to be white-hispanic in the articles to support the raycisms.

 

As to our current topic, take any of the speeches by Lavrov warning about the dangers of nuclear armed powers getting into military encounters.  Your Mail and DailyStar and Express all print an altered quote-mined poor translation of his comments, and run headlines "Lavron/Putin Threatens Nuclear War."  

 

The echo chamber picks it up, propaganda pieces are liked and shared, and forum posters, well, you know.....the thing.  Meanwhile, access to RT is cut, and links to Russian ministry sites with the actual transcript are deleted.

 

For freedom, I guess.

[Kiwiken]

On 2/22/2025 at 9:04 PM, Harrisfan said:

US army is much stronger. US lost $200bn for nothing.

Name a War the US won on its own!

[sharot724]

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[thesetat]

Well, I guess you all were wrong about the initial story. Trumps approach with UK demanding the 500 Billion in Minerals seems to have gotten Zelenski to agree to come talk to Trump and make a deal with their countries minerals. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c337461n3xlo

 

 

Albeit, he did not yet agree to reimbursement of the 500 billion the US already gave. But i am certain with Trumps negotiating skills that this will also be something Zelenski agrees to. 

[jimmybcool]

On 2/22/2025 at 3:32 PM, stevenl said:

In the geo political area, US and Europe are, or maybe were, in general aligned. Russia and China are on the other side. So yes, Russia was an opponent and is much weaker now than 3 years ago.

 

Apparently Russia was always much weaker than Nato.  It has just been exposed by their failures in Ukraine.  Pretty clear now in a non-nuclear war between Nato (with US) and Russia it is very one sided. 

[sharot724]

So hold on!!

Not going anywhere. Where do these fools get these stupidest ideas from? Fox News maybe.

 

https://united24media.com/latest-news/uk-germany-and-france-ready-to-send-troops-to-ukraine-to-support-truce-6239

[Hakuna Matata]

1 hour ago, sharot724 said:

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[Paul52]

On 2/22/2025 at 3:21 PM, Harrisfan said:

The cold war ended 40 years ago

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

Biden had a plan? First time ever.

 

Not sure about it though. Use Ukranian blood to gum up the wheels of the Russian military....  Seems rather callous, even for a Democrat.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

Rubbish. Biden is senile and he had no plan. Lefties online making up stories 3 years later. What a joke. Many died and you don't care. Its all a plan 

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[chondan]

Corruption rating.  Ukraine  104 out of 180 countries.  Their military with the most corruption.  

[J Branche]

3 hours ago, Kiwiken said:

Name a War the US won on its own!

We won the war on Spending and increasing our National Debt to the critical point all by ourselves.

 

For our next party trick we will let Healthcare become so expensive that only the Elite and Rich can afford it.

 

Then the loan for a 4 year degree at a good college will take 20 years to repay.

 

Then the US will be like Thailand were everyone is underwater with to much Debt.  

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, mogandave said:

What does gave him “right” mean? 

 

You said Trump is giving Putin everything Putin wants.

 

Does Putin want all of Ukraine or not? 

 

No.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Shame all those people died for Bidens corrupted admin and donors.

Agree.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Paul52 said:

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

The only threat Russia needs to stop NATO invading it is the nuclear arsenal. Does any European country even have a decent military anymore? I doubt it- run down by decades of budget cuts. The Brits will be OK if it's ever down to the cavalry though- they probably have more horses than the Russians.

Cold war without any actual wars against the west is just peachy IMO. Without the boogeyman there wouldn't be any need for those honour guards for visiting "dignitaries" to inspect on arrival, LOL ( I was in a few of them, a right pain in the butt they were too ).

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Rubbish. Biden is senile and he had no plan. Lefties online making up stories 3 years later. What a joke. Many died and you don't care. Its all a plan 

The plan IMO was to make shareholders of weapons manufacturers very very rich. On that they exceeded expectations.

[J Branche]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The plan IMO was to make shareholders of weapons manufacturers very very rich. On that they exceeded expectations.

Yes SHLD paid 15% for 6 months plus a little dividend.  Not bad.  It use to be taboo to be a weapons manufacturer now everyone sees the money and wants a piece. Palantir, Anduril see the size of the checks the Military Budget is handing out and are tired of dinosaur companies getting paid.

[Sydebolle]

Well, well, the future will look back at history and find out, that Zelensky was nothing but yet another puppet. As long as you take an absolute nobody, put him into a presidential palace, let him outstay his (rigged) welcome, then you know that you're dealing with banana republics. 

Zelensky reminds me of Marcos, Lon Nol, the Shah of Persia who got massive help in unseating Mosaddegh, Vang Pao who fled his people and did not understand to the day he died, how he was puppet mastered. 

[sharot724]

2 hours ago, Paul52 said:

You would need to be very blind, dumb and ignorant to believe that ever happened.  Since its formation in the 90s the SVR has operated the same as the KGB to undermine, weaken and subvert Western interests, especially American.  The only thing that’s held Putin back from expanding his empire further west into Eastern Europe is NATO, hence the reason Putin supports his useful idiots like Trump with that goal.  

Good that Putin’s army has had the c**p fragged out of it in Ukraine.  The Biden administration’s plan worked very effectively there.  The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

The Cold War never ended because the Russians never stopped and they never will.

exactly thanks clarified

[black tabby12345]

 

When President Trump posted that President Zelensky is a dictator without elections, 

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Trump's Idiocy, at its worst.

Which country can afford the Political Blank Period(absense of the head of the state; decision maker) while facing ongoing mass invasion by land from the neighboring country?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Well, well, the future will look back at history and find out, that Zelensky was nothing but yet another puppet. As long as you take an absolute nobody, put him into a presidential palace, let him outstay his (rigged) welcome, then you know that you're dealing with banana republics. 

Zelensky reminds me of Marcos, Lon Nol, the Shah of Persia who got massive help in unseating Mosaddegh, Vang Pao who fled his people and did not understand to the day he died, how he was puppet mastered. 

Not forgetting Sadam who was the US's best bud as long as he was fighting the Iranians and a few unsavoury dictators in South America. They even preferred Pol Pot to the Vietnamese who saved the remaining Cambodians.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

When President Trump posted that President Zelensky is a dictator without elections, 

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Trump's Idiocy, at its worst.

Which country can afford the Political Blank Period(absense of the head of the state; decision maker) while facing ongoing mass invasion by the neighboring country?

 

 

UM, despite some presidents that think they are military geniuses, the general command usually manage without a president for a few weeks.

 

BTW, are you not aware that Lloyd George was elected DURING WW1?

[black tabby12345]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

UM, despite some presidents that think they are military geniuses, the general command usually manage without a president for a few weeks.

 

BTW, are you not aware that Lloyd George was elected DURING WW1?

 

As long as I know of, UK didn't become the stage of land battle(unlike continental Europe).

That's the difference(between WW1 UK and today's Ukraine).

Occasionally being air raided is one thing.

But ongoing army battle on its soil  is another.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

As long as I know of, UK didn't become the stage of land battle(unlike continental Europe).

That's the difference(between WW1 UK and today's Ukraine).

Occasionally being air raided is one thing.

But ongoing army battle on its soil  is another.

I wasn't aware that Kiev is on the front lines.

[Purdey]

America entered a long war in Vietnam because it feared the domino effect of Asia becoming Communist. Thailand was its red line. 

Now, the west sees that Russia wants to own its former East European colonies and America wants to appease Russia. Ukraine was the red line, now it's like a buffet of eat all you can. 

I worry that we are underestimating Russia.

[oslooskar]

On 2/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, steven100 said:

  spelling was not your greatest subject I see.   Did you fail English at school  ?

 

Don't make me laugh. The English-speaking world doesn’t know the first thing about proper spelling. If it did, there wouldn’t be a need for pronunciation keys in every English dictionary.

[oslooskar]

On 2/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, steven100 said:

  spelling was not your greatest subject I see.   Did you fail English at school  ?

 

Don't make me laugh. The English-speaking world doesn’t know the first thing about proper spelling. If it did, there wouldn’t be a need for pronunciation keys in every English dictionary.