Elon Musk Demands Federal Workers Justify Their Jobs or Face Dismissal

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, amexpat said:

Please point out the lie. 

 

 

[WDSmart]

I'd like to see Musk and the team at DOGE answer such an email...and Trump!

[rudi49jr]

Apparently Trump can waste as much (taxpayers) money as he likes. Kristi Noem, the head of Homeland Security, says that Trump instructed her to make ads that ‘thank him for closing the border’. To the tune of a mere $200 million. Money well spent, I’m sure…

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-kristi-noem-200-million-dhs-ad-campaign-thanks-president-1235276324/

[Tidal wave]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Certain depths to plumb require superior intelligence. I doubt I will see you there.

Oh god another Bob full of the brown stuff

[Yagoda]

25 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

Oh god another Bob full of the brown stuff

1, Who is Bob

2. If thats the best you can do, clearly we have another one who wants to keep being made a fool of

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Tidal wave said:

Oh god another Bob full of the brown stuff

At least Bob thinks it has a sense of humour unlike that poster.

[Cryingdick]

Anybody with half a brain could make an email with 5 bullet points in a few minutes. Even if you are unwilling or somehow unable use AI. The gnashing of teeth over this is just moronic. 

 

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[Cryingdick]

Me: Write a short email describing what I did lastl week using five bullet points. Make me sound like an important government official while not disclosing any actual position i hold.

 

ChatGPT:

 

Dear Mr. Musk,

Last week, I executed a series of high-priority initiatives essential to ongoing objectives. Key actions included:

• Overseeing critical infrastructure assessments to ensure operational readiness and long-term resilience in key locations.
• Facilitating high-level discussions with key stakeholders to advance strategic interests and maintain stability in evolving scenarios.
• Conducting on-site evaluations to reinforce compliance, efficiency, and alignment with broader directives.
• Reviewing intelligence reports and logistical frameworks to optimize resource allocation and enhance situational awareness.
• Implementing targeted measures to mitigate emerging risks while strengthening core capabilities for future contingencies.

Further briefings can be arranged upon request.

Best,
Cryingdick.

 

This is a piece created by chat gpt if it wasnt already obvious.

[Harrisfan]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Me: Write a short email describing what I did lastl week using five bullet points. Make me sound like an important government official while not disclosing any actual position i hold.

 

ChatGPT:

 

 

Dear Mr. Musk,

Last week, I executed a series of high-priority initiatives essential to ongoing objectives. Key actions included:

• Overseeing critical infrastructure assessments to ensure operational readiness and long-term resilience in key locations.
• Facilitating high-level discussions with key stakeholders to advance strategic interests and maintain stability in evolving scenarios.
• Conducting on-site evaluations to reinforce compliance, efficiency, and alignment with broader directives.
• Reviewing intelligence reports and logistical frameworks to optimize resource allocation and enhance situational awareness.
• Implementing targeted measures to mitigate emerging risks while strengthening core capabilities for future contingencies.

Further briefings can be arranged upon request.

Best,
Cryingdick.

 

This is a piece created by chat gpt if it wasnt already obvious.

5 points of drivel

[Harrisfan]

This woman complains about answering an email. 

 

Should be sacked

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/25/politics/video/elon-musk-email-federal-workers-ebof-digvid

[impulse]

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Anybody with half a brain could make an email with 5 bullet points in a few minutes. Even if you are unwilling or somehow unable use AI. The gnashing of teeth over this is just moronic. 

 

That's assuming there's really an employee there, and they're even reading their e-mail.  Musk is of the belief that some employees aren't even real and paychecks are going out to nefarious actors.  And other so called employees aren't working at all. 

 

Whether he's right or wrong, I can't think of an easier way to ferret them out.  I think of it as a 2FA to get your paycheck.  If you don't respond, you won't.

 

[Cryingdick]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

That's assuming there's really an employee there, and they're even reading their e-mail.  Musk is of the belief that some employees aren't even real and paychecks are going out to nefarious actors.  And other so called employees aren't working at all. 

 

Whether he's right or wrong, I can't think of an easier way to ferret them out.  I think of it as a 2FA to get your paycheck.  If you don't respond, you won't.

 

Joe Biden wouldn't have been able to reply with in five days.

[MicroB]

This exercise has a cost.

 

1. All government departments operate a "Time Sheet" App. The data is already there for a time and motion study (which is what they used to call it). The exercise wa entirely uncessary.

2. There are about 3 million  federal employees. Most will not be in sensitive positions. Some will be in positions where some of their work is sensitive, and others will be in roles were most of their work is sensitive. The email sent requests employees not to share details of sensitive  work. Assume 30 minutes of the working day is needed to respond to the emaiil. Some will complete it very fast, others will need further checks. So 1.5 million manhours were expended on this task just sending the emails.

3. Most people are in salaried positions, 40-45 hours per week. Each hour needs to accounted for, which is part of the point of this exercise However, along with the various department time sheet Apps, the federal government is a huge user of SAP. Among many things, SAP is used for project management; team members book hours expended on a project. It can be used to analyse actual duration of tasks against planned duration. When estimating the cost of a project, necessary for setting budgets, project managers can input  hourly rates based on the senority of the resource, and number of FTEs. The rate is a combination of labour (payroll) cost and overhead (ie. the cost to the organsation of someone being in the office, so reflecting building cost, provision of services, cost of workplace insurance etc), so its often much higher that the resource's salary. In the past, I have used rates of between $60 and 150 per hour. Settling on $105/hour, this email exercise cost the tax payer $157,500,000, not including DOGE staffing costs.

4. I have not estimated the costs in analysing  around 3 million emails. The email sent includes no proforma, so responses might be in various formats and forms. I suspect not a single email will be read.

4. An imponderable cost is any resulting fraud. The email, with its header, has been published.

 

 

A criminal can use this to impersonate. Phishing attacks now can spooth genuine email addresses; you think its come from a genuine sender. Often they will have a sense of urgency,  An email could be sent suggesting a problem with the revious email, or requiring further answers. Some employees might be rash in replying. Its fairly easy to compile names of federal employees from public domain sources, such as LinkedIn, but also from US government open soucs. If an email is not available, its not very hard to guess the email. In addition, there. are thousands of personal emails available on the Darkweb. There are about 130 million people in the US of working again; so if you coul spam 100,000 gmail/hotmail/outlook accounts related to US IP addresses, then there are 2300 Marks. who are government employees, who suddently get an email on a weds asking them to urgently respond as the government has accidently sacked them and deleted their email (doesn't have to be true, though I note they were stuggling to rehire nuclear safety records as personal records had been deleted).

 

https://aag-it.com/the-latest-phishing-statistics/

 

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In 2021, the average click rate for a phishing campaign was 17.8%. Phishing campaigns that were more targeted and added phone calls had an average click rate of 53.2% – 3 times more effective

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

I heard he has a botched penis implant. 😜

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

I heard he has a botched penis implant. 😜

I heard you have one "implanted" regularly. 

[mrwebb8825]

Just how WOKE are these people? They had time to organize a lawsuit but couldn't pound out a 30 minute email of what they did for a week. To quote an old-ish movie; "Scrape them off Clair, scrape them off.".

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Just how WOKE are these people? They had time to organize a lawsuit but couldn't pound out a 30 minute email of what they did for a week. To quote an old-ish movie; "Scrape them off Clair, scrape them off.".

30 minutes for five bullet-points? 

[mrwebb8825]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

30 minutes for five bullet-points? 

many of them are DEI "Special People" so I allotted for 15-20 minutes for panic attacks, cry room visits, etc.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

many of them are DEI "Special People" so I allotted for 15-20 minutes for panic attacks, cry room visits, etc.

I loved that there was "panic and confusions" reported. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/26/2025 at 1:35 PM, MicroB said:

This exercise has a cost.

 

1. All government departments operate a "Time Sheet" App. The data is already there for a time and motion study (which is what they used to call it). The exercise wa entirely uncessary.

2. There are about 3 million  federal employees. Most will not be in sensitive positions. Some will be in positions where some of their work is sensitive, and others will be in roles were most of their work is sensitive. The email sent requests employees not to share details of sensitive  work. Assume 30 minutes of the working day is needed to respond to the emaiil. Some will complete it very fast, others will need further checks. So 1.5 million manhours were expended on this task just sending the emails.

3. Most people are in salaried positions, 40-45 hours per week. Each hour needs to accounted for, which is part of the point of this exercise However, along with the various department time sheet Apps, the federal government is a huge user of SAP. Among many things, SAP is used for project management; team members book hours expended on a project. It can be used to analyse actual duration of tasks against planned duration. When estimating the cost of a project, necessary for setting budgets, project managers can input  hourly rates based on the senority of the resource, and number of FTEs. The rate is a combination of labour (payroll) cost and overhead (ie. the cost to the organsation of someone being in the office, so reflecting building cost, provision of services, cost of workplace insurance etc), so its often much higher that the resource's salary. In the past, I have used rates of between $60 and 150 per hour. Settling on $105/hour, this email exercise cost the tax payer $157,500,000, not including DOGE staffing costs.

4. I have not estimated the costs in analysing  around 3 million emails. The email sent includes no proforma, so responses might be in various formats and forms. I suspect not a single email will be read.

4. An imponderable cost is any resulting fraud. The email, with its header, has been published.

 

 

A criminal can use this to impersonate. Phishing attacks now can spooth genuine email addresses; you think its come from a genuine sender. Often they will have a sense of urgency,  An email could be sent suggesting a problem with the revious email, or requiring further answers. Some employees might be rash in replying. Its fairly easy to compile names of federal employees from public domain sources, such as LinkedIn, but also from US government open soucs. If an email is not available, its not very hard to guess the email. In addition, there. are thousands of personal emails available on the Darkweb. There are about 130 million people in the US of working again; so if you coul spam 100,000 gmail/hotmail/outlook accounts related to US IP addresses, then there are 2300 Marks. who are government employees, who suddently get an email on a weds asking them to urgently respond as the government has accidently sacked them and deleted their email (doesn't have to be true, though I note they were stuggling to rehire nuclear safety records as personal records had been deleted).

 

https://aag-it.com/the-latest-phishing-statistics/

 

 

 

Most of the managers I worked for in the military and nursing were a waste of space. If answering an e mail is beyond the capabilities of bureaucrats in any occupation they deserve to be looking for employment in an occupation more suited to their talents, like picking fruit, or cutting grass.

[Eric Loh]

All these upheaval and chaos generated for Trump to give tax cuts to his oligarch buddies. Shameful. 

[blaze master]

On 2/23/2025 at 9:01 PM, Tug said:

Absolutely!rite after the felon justifies all the tax money Spent to haul his fat carkass around so he can golf instead of being at work.

 

Pffft. Biden is the goat.

 

Care to comment ?

 

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/biden-took-off-577-days-in-4-years-tops-modern-era-presidents/

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

At Trump's Cabinet meet, Elon Musk claims getting ‘lot of death threats’

 

Actually they're just trying to see if you even exist and you're not a robot (rumors).

 

If you have a pulse and two neurons you should be able to respond to their email. 

 

Maybe you're really 150 years old. 🤭

 

All I know is we've never seen waste, fraud and abuse on this scale before.

 

Huge waste of taxpayers money.

Party on, Garth. 🥳

[mogandave]

All of the sudden thr left is worried about taxpayer’s money. 

 

Apparently, over a million workers responded to the email…

[SiSePuede419]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

All of the sudden thr left is worried about taxpayer’s money. 

If you say so, it must be true.

Of course the facts are the exact opposite of what you claimed. 😂

 

Democrats have raised concerns about waste, fraud, and corruption in various contexts over the years. 

1. Trump Administration Oversight 

2. Pentagon Waste 

3. COVID-19 Relief Fraud 

4. Pharmaceutical Industry Price Gouging 

5. Big Oil & Environmental Fraud 

6. Police Department Misuse of Federal Funds 

7. Federal Contracting & Government Contractors 

8. IRS & Tax Fraud Investigations 

9. Postmaster General Louis DeJoy’s Conflicts of Interest 

10. Election Security & Foreign Interference 

 

Would you like more details on how you're an ignorant fool on any of these?

 

Talk to AI.  It's smarter than you. 😀

 

[mogandave]

Just now, SiSePuede419 said:

If you say so, it must be true.

Of course the facts are the exact opposite of what you claimed. 😂

 

Democrats have raised concerns about waste, fraud, and corruption in various contexts over the years. 

 

1. Trump Administration Oversight 

2. Pentagon Waste 

3. COVID-19 Relief Fraud 

4. Pharmaceutical Industry Price Gouging 

5. Big Oil & Environmental Fraud 

6. Police Department Misuse of Federal Funds 

7. Federal Contracting & Government Contractors 

8. IRS & Tax Fraud Investigations 

9. Postmaster General Louis DeJoy’s Conflicts of Interest 

10. Election Security & Foreign Interference 

 

Would you like more details on how you're an ignorant fool on any of these?

 

Talk to AI.  It's smarter than you. 😀

 

Yeah, the left always raises concerns at election time, and then just forgets about it. 

 

Now, when someone is actually trying to do something about it, the left fights tooth and nail.

 

 

[Purdey]

Reporting the last 5 days is meant to show that you really changed America or what? What does a 5-day report actually do to help understand one's job?

[SiSePuede419]

20 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Yeah, the left always raises concerns at election time, and then just forgets about it. 

When you get caught lying you always double down on another lie.

 

Once again, you are gaslighting.

It's the Republican Party that forgets about corruption 

IOKIYAR 😂

[mogandave]

11 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Reporting the last 5 days is meant to show that you really changed America or what? What does a 5-day report actually do to help understand one's job?

They are not supposed to “change” America, they are supposed to be maintaining it. 

 

It’s hard to imagine that anyone would have any reason they should not be able to come up with five bullet point from the previous week. 

 

But bt all means, please fight it loudly and continuously.

[mogandave]

3 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

When you get caught lying you always double down on another lie.

 

Once again, you are gaslighting.

It's the Republican Party that forgets about corruption 

IOKIYAR 😂

Is that you Hunter?