1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

IMO we should go back to the IQ classifications of idiots, morons and imbeciles.

Your words are so sweet Sir, but why not debate instead of posting silly-billy remarks?

18 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Your words are so sweet Sir, but why not debate instead of posting silly-billy remarks?

How does one debate someone who is clearly insane?

16 hours ago, TheTightArseTraveller said:

Frits is on his 9th covid booster (has had covid 13 times), wears a surgical mask and thinks the government is here to protect him

Lies, not unexpected from an anti vaxer.

 

I had 5 vaccinations and that was the last of it. 3 times covid and recovered within 3 days each time.

I don't wear masks and am a lot in public.

I don't need a government to protect me, can do that perfectly well myself.

34 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

How does one debate someone who is clearly insane?

It's true Sir, that I don't agree with you, or you with me, but we can still debate health issues; can we not?

 

What is the major sticking point for you? There is none for me. I'll debate any point, and answer any questions.

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Another great expose from Red. All be it a sorrowful one.

 

When will the white-coats stop pumping filth into babies, toddlers and kids? Do no harm? They should hang their heads in shame. And if one of my beautiful kids have been killed by a vaxx, I'd be demanding much more than them hanging heads.

You believe, just like many people do, that doctors have your best interest at heart. Many do and I wont decry the medical profession who do some outstanding work. However, basic type vaccinations are a money earner and doctors will proscribe them whenever they feel it wont do any harm but should give protection to the recipient.

If the majority of the sleeverollers that I have met weren’t fat, chinless, goiter necked examples of the merits of physiognomy….

 

Nah.  They’re gross.  Pay no attention to them.

6 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

You believe, just like many people do, that doctors have your best interest at heart. Many do and I wont decry the medical profession who do some outstanding work. However, basic type vaccinations are a money earner and doctors will proscribe them whenever they feel it wont do any harm but should give protection to the recipient.

If I fall off me ladder and broke a leg. Or, was seriously injured in a car accident, I would seek help. A dagger in me back. Where is the doctor?

 

But putting accidents aside, I wouldn't trust a white-coat as far as I could throw one. And I'll tell you why.

Firstly; there are none so blind as will not see. And these white-coats are right up there with the biggest idiots of our era.

Secondly; they are bound by protocols that stop them prescribing, even if they felt the need to, any remedy that could see them unsupported by their governing body or insurance. 

Thirdly they are controlled by Big Pharma (BP), and can only use the BP drugs.

Four; they cannot see past symptoms, and issue drugs to lessen, or eradicate them. Even though they are the body at work.

Five; they do not seem interested, in getting to the root causes of an illness.

Six; A lot of western doctors start out their careers with huge debts.

Seven; Being a white-coat should be a calling not a way to enrich oneself.

Eight; They seem to be unaware of diet, environments or nature.

 

These white-coats that relentlessly pump vaccine filth into kids and preggers women should be struck off, and denied the privilege to ever don a white coat again. They have conveniently forgotten that their first port of call is to help their patient, not enrich themselves or BP.

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Another great expose from Red. All be it a sorrowful one.

 

When will the white-coats stop pumping filth into babies, toddlers and kids? Do no harm? They should hang their heads in shame. And if one of my beautiful kids have been killed by a vaxx, I'd be demanding much more than them hanging heads.

More tosh..........

1 minute ago, transam said:

More tosh..........

Oh dear, we've woken up the obnoxious TransMan,,,

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

If I fall off me ladder and broke a leg. Or, was seriously injured in a car accident, I would seek help. A dagger in me back. Where is the doctor?

 

But putting accidents aside, I wouldn't trust a white-coat as far as I could throw one. And I'll tell you why.

Firstly; there are none so blind as will not see. And these white-coats are right up there with the biggest idiots of our era.

Secondly; they are bound by protocols that stop them prescribing, even if they felt the need to, any remedy that could see them unsupported by their governing body or insurance. 

Thirdly they are controlled by Big Pharma (BP), and can only use the BP drugs.

Four; they cannot see past symptoms, and issue drugs to lessen, or eradicate them. Even though they are the body at work.

Five; they do not seem interested, in getting to the root causes of an illness.

Six; A lot of western doctors start out their careers with huge debts.

Seven; Being a white-coat should be a calling not a way to enrich oneself.

Eight; They seem to be unaware of diet, environments or nature.

 

These white-coats that relentlessly pump vaccine filth into kids and preggers women should be struck off, and denied the privilege to ever don a white coat again. They have conveniently forgotten that their first port of call is to help their patient, not enrich themselves or BP.

Two faced, you have a one-sided agenda, but if you get a medical problem, you will waiing, waiing and waiing, just like the OP..........🤥

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

Oh dear, we've woken up the obnoxious TransMan,,,

It's transam, you, a know it all, cannot even use a correct username...🙄

 

Another nonsense thread to demonise those trained to help YOU, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

PS. You got any kids...?

I suppose you delivered them...............

Just now, transam said:

Two faced, you have a one-sided agenda, but if you get a medical problem, you will waiing, waiing and waiing, just like the OP..........🤥

You just don't get it Trans.

 

There is a reason for sickness. Find out why, and give the body every chance to right itself. Health is not difficult. It is the system, and white-coats themselves, that make it so, so complicated.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

You just don't get it Trans.

 

There is a reason for sickness. Find out why, and give the body every chance to right itself. Health is not difficult. It is the system, and white-coats themselves, that make it so, so complicated.

🤣........Unbelievable, you, the bloke whose wife was hospitalised to get an eye problem sorted, now you are going to tell us all ,her problem was caused by a life of dodgy living....🤣

You are nuts, as well as the OP..........

10 minutes ago, transam said:

🤣........Unbelievable, you, the bloke whose wife was hospitalised to get an eye problem sorted, now you are going to tell us all ,her problem was caused by a life of dodgy living....🤣

You are nuts, as well as the OP..........

First paragraph is true enough. She had the problem of Keratoconus when I met her. The damage was done when she was younger. Eye problems take a long while to sort out if the eye is damaged.

 

With most problems, an understanding of prevention is better than any cure. And early intervention is vital before more serious complications set in.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

First paragraph is true enough. She had the problem of Keratoconus when I met her. The damage was done when she was younger. Eye problems take a long while to sort out if the eye is damaged.

 

With most problems, an understanding of prevention is better than any cure. and early intervention is vital before more serious complications set in.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

I just knew it...............😂

 

You really are a very stupid person...........🤣

 

How does your theory stop cataracts forming........?

This could be fun..............😂

19 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Another great expose from Red. All be it a sorrowful one.

 

When will the white-coats stop pumping filth into babies, toddlers and kids? Do no harm? They should hang their heads in shame. And if one of my beautiful kids have been killed by a vaxx, I'd be demanding much more than them hanging heads.

albeit 

Cause of death remains undetermined. Authorities are investigating, but no official findings have been announced. Families and officials await medical examiner conclusions or autopsy results.

 

18 hours ago, TheTightArseTraveller said:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8255173/

 

I reckon pubmed is a good start

I notice the pro vaxxers don’t read, just type… hence them still being pro vax

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Health is not difficult. It is the system, and white-coats themselves, that make it so, so complicated.

Good luck with cancer, Parkinson, dementia, broken bones, rabies, ....

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It's true Sir, that I don't agree with you, or you with me, but we can still debate health issues; can we not?

 

What is the major sticking point for you? There is none for me. I'll debate any point, and answer any questions.

The major sticking point is your denial of viruses.

 

It's like claiming the sun rises in the north, and sets in the south.

 

Anyone who has used a scanning electron microscope has seen how there are viruses, identifiable by their morphology.

6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Good luck with cancer, Parkinson, dementia, broken bones, rabies, ....

 

All caused by your lifestyle and toxins apparently......so you only have yourself to blame.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

All caused by your lifestyle and toxins apparently......so you only have yourself to blame.

Not so, you forgot hereditary stuff.....🤗

Just now, transam said:

Not so, you forgot hereditary stuff.....🤗

 

I was joking.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I was joking.

Sorry.............🤭

3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Good luck with cancer, Parkinson, dementia, broken bones, rabies, ....

Good that you want to debate Sir.

 

Cancer!? Let's get to it. My take is that cancer is the accumulatio of cells that are abnormal. The body, if healthy enough, can disperse these broken, and sometimes toxic-laden cells. However, if the body is lacking, or there is too much toxicity; either too much in one go, or over too long a time period, sothere is a build up, the body has to act to protect itself.

 

How does it do this? By coating the renegade cells and storing them away. This is the start of a tumor. What happens next depends upon various things**.

 

Nature has all the answers.

 

** Beyond the scope of this thread. But on another, I'd be only too willing to investigate 'cancer' in more depth.

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

You believe, just like many people do, that doctors have your best interest at heart. Many do and I wont decry the medical profession who do some outstanding work. However, basic type vaccinations are a money earner and doctors will proscribe them whenever they feel it wont do any harm but should give protection to the recipient.

The profit margin on vaccines is considerably less than other pharmaceuticals.

 

Vaccines are usually one-off, with maybe a booster.

 

OTOH, medications for chronic conditions such as diabetes, hypertension and cholesterol are ongoing.

 

A successful vaccine by definition is self-limiting in sales.

 

As a public health measure, the cost of vaccines is usually kept down by government procurement.

 

For example, flu vaccinations in Australia are free for a considerable proportion of the population.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The profit margin on vaccines is considerably less than other pharmaceuticals.

 

Vaccines are usually one-off, with maybe a booster.

 

OTOH, medications for chronic conditions such as diabetes, hypertension and cholesterol are ongoing.

 

A successful vaccine by definition is self-limiting in sales.

 

As a public health measure, the cost of vaccines is usually kept down by government procurement.

 

For example, flu vaccinations in Australia for a considerable proportion of the population.

Except with general medications they treat the minority with the illness (yes, sometimes ongoing) but with vaccines, the goldmine is you give it to EVERYONE that doesn’t even have the disease.  

Can any pro vaxxer here justify giving a vaccine to an hours old baby for a disease that is transmitted sexually and via drug use.. ie HepB?

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Good that you want to debate Sir.

 

Cancer!? Let's get to it. My take is that cancer is the accumulatio of cells that are abnormal. The body, if healthy enough, can disperse these broken, and sometimes toxic-laden cells. However, if the body is lacking, or there is too much toxicity; either too much in one go, or over too long a time period, sothere is a build up, the body has to act to protect itself.

 

How does it do this? By coating the renegade cells and storing them away. This is the start of a tumor. What happens next depends upon various things**.

 

Nature has all the answers.

 

** Beyond the scope of this thread. But on another, I'd be only too willing to investigate 'cancer' in more depth.

I have had 4 different types of cancer. Apparently 5 is the record. Nature had no answers for them, modern medicine did.

 

Cancer cells are immortal. The telomeres that compel normal cells to die are deactivated.

 

Cancers can be put into remission by surgery, immunotherapy, chemotherapy, and radiation. I have had three out of four. No doctor ever says a cancer is cured.

 

The gold standard for cancer detection is a CAT scan with radioactive sugar. Cancer cells take up sugar far faster than normal cells.

 

If you don't believe in the evidence of a scanning electron microscope, what chance does a CAT scan have?

 

3 minutes ago, TheTightArseTraveller said:

Can any pro vaxxer here justify giving a vaccine to an hours old baby for a disease that is transmitted sexually and via drug use.. ie HepB?

Yes, the decision to give newborns the hepatitis B vaccine at birth can be justified on strong medical and public health grounds — and it’s a recommendation supported by the World Health Organization (WHO), CDC, and most national health systems.

 

Here’s why:

🧬 

1. Hepatitis B Can Be Transmitted at Birth

Hepatitis B is not only sexually or IV drug transmitted — it can be passed from mother to baby during childbirth, even if the mother has no symptoms.

This is called perinatal transmission, and if a newborn gets infected this way, 90% will develop chronic hepatitis B, increasing the risk of:

Liver failure

Cirrhosis

Liver cancer

Early death

 

➡️ The birth dose prevents this vertical transmission — it’s a critical window.

🔍 

2. Many Mothers Don’t Know They Carry Hep B

Millions of people are silent carriers, often unaware they’re infected.

Even in countries with prenatal screening, testing isn’t always done properly or on time, and in emergency or home births it may be skipped.

 

➡️ Giving the vaccine at birth is a fail-safe — even if maternal infection status is unknown or test results are delayed.

🧱 

3. The First Dose Builds Long-Term Protection

The birth dose is the first of a 3-dose series that builds lifelong immunity.

Even if not exposed at birth, early vaccination protects infants as they grow and become exposed through:

Household contacts (e.g. infected caregivers)

Shared items (e.g. toothbrushes, cuts, etc.)

Later life risks like sex or needle use

⚖️ 

4. The Risk of the Vaccine Is Very Low

The Hep B vaccine is extremely safe. It’s been used globally since the 1980s.

Side effects are rare and usually mild (e.g., soreness at the injection site).

🌍 

5. Countries That Delay the Vaccine See More Cases

Nations that don’t give the vaccine at birth tend to have higher childhood infection rates, especially where hepatitis B is endemic.

In some regions, household exposure from infected relatives (not just mothers) is a major risk.

✅ Summary:

Concern

Response

“Why vaccinate hours after birth?”

To prevent mother-to-child transmission, which causes lifelong infection in most babies.

“Isn’t Hep B only from sex or drugs?”

No — it’s also passed through birth, cuts, shared items, and blood contact.

“Why not just test the mother?”

Many mothers aren’t tested or results may be delayed, so the shot acts as a universal safeguard.

“Is it safe?”

Yes — the Hep B vaccine has been used safely in billions of doses worldwide.

Would you like a breakdown of which countries do or don’t recommend it at birth, or data on how infection rates dropped after universal newborn vaccination was introduced?