Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

You are nature Sir. Nature is not just an alligator or a flower, it includes you.

 

This is our golden chance. The amount of people that now see through the hoax of the covid nonsense and the pandemic, is now huge. We are the many. They are the few. Can we unite and move towards our meaning; that is intrinsically entwined with nature?

 

Our true destiny is in our own hands. Only truth, love, and understanding that nature is our very reason for existence can we fulfill the wonderful opportunity we have. Let's not waste our time here. We must get off our knees and unite. Cast aside apathy and ignorance.

 

Love nature = love oneself.

 

 

Is that all from The Watchtower.........?

 

 

 

52 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

The last recorded/known case was in 1977??

Yes Will but it is still around contained in 2 labs 1 in Russia and 1 in the US. the last person to die from Small Pox was a lab worker who was exposed to the spore. Even now it is alive but contained.

I thought this thread was about Anti Vaccines It's turned into a Covid thread. Spanish flu killed thousands in the 20s Guess what stopped the Deaths ??

Just now, BarraMarra said:

I thought this thread was about Anti Vaccines It's turned into a Covid thread. Spanish flu killed thousands in the 20s Guess what stopped the Deaths ??

Don't confuse them with actual facts................😉

45 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

47 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Like all anti-vaxxers, you’ve cherry-picked a ‘factoid’ to make it sound effective, but it’s fundamentally flawed because - yes, you guessed it - you didn’t really think it through. You don’t truly know the full facts; you just know a few minor details and use them selectively....

 

Before 2002, most Thai children over 35 today received childhood vaccinations through the Expanded Programme on Immunisation (EPI), run by the Ministry of Public Health.

Vaccines like BCG, DTP, polio, and measles were provided free at district hospitals, rural health centres, and through mobile outreach, often with the help of community health volunteers.

 

Coverage improved steadily through the 1980s and 1990s, but rural and poorer families sometimes faced access challenges, and record-keeping could be inconsistent.

 

Thaksin’s Universal Coverage Scheme in 2002 didn’t create immunisation programmes but greatly expanded and equalised access.

 

By guaranteeing care for all citizens, strengthening district health services, integrating vaccinations into routine primary care, and improving monitoring systems, the UCS ensured virtually every child could receive their full schedule of vaccines. It also allowed the introduction of newer vaccines like Hepatitis B and MMR nationwide, leading to over 95% coverage and effectively closing the gaps between urban and rural areas.

 

 

So... Your claim that before 2002 there were no vaccinations it an outright fabrication - you have now highlighted the extent of your ignorance or that you are quite happy to be intellectually dishonest.

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IF you look at my post 'generally' is in it.

 

Ah, I see… In that case, you 'generally' tend to be intellectually disingenuous, selectively presenting information while deliberately omitting other relevant facts....

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Ah, I see… In that case, you 'generally' tend to be intellectually disingenuous, selectively presenting information while deliberately omitting other relevant facts....

No, I only care about me and my welfare.

You can inject yourself and your kids with as much poison as you like.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

You really should know better than to rely on anecdote when discussing matters of public health.

 

Last year, my parents – both in their eighties – caught Covid-19. They tested positive, suffered mild cold-like symptoms, and recovered at home. It could have been far worse, but they were vaccinated and boosted.

 

Of course, someone else’s anecdote would read differently: “My parents were vaccinated and still got Covid.” And so, the personal narrative becomes a weapon, used not to illuminate but to obscure.

 

 

The only legitimate way to assess a public health measure is through aggregate data – broad, population-level evidence. Yet the moment such data is presented, the anti-vaxx chorus begins: the numbers are fabricated, the definitions are rigged, the studies manipulated.

 

Even when faced with mountains of evidence, disbelief remains the refuge of the wilfully blind.

 

Ask for new studies, and the pattern repeats. Any fresh, transparent research that doesn’t align with the rhetoric is instantly “debunked” with the same tired conspiracy script.

 

It’s like arguing with someone who insists that π isn’t 3.142 because “the authorities adjusted the figures” – and that, somehow, the circle is still a square if you believe hard enough.

 

 

One of the most common sophistic approaches is omission, i.e. the willful ignorance of a valid element in an attempt to make a more compelling point.

 

The above-mentioned anecdote was given as an empirical illustration of an aggregate stat which you should theoretically find notable: the fact that authorities worldwide stopped reporting the vaccination status of hospitalised people in 2023.

 

Because it is not convenient for you, you simply chose to ignore it. Just as you ignored the study I posted a couple of months ago showing Spike protein persistence one year after inoculation. Just as you omitted my mentioning yesterday of thousands of medical personnel being opposed to mRNA jabs.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

No, I only care about me and my welfare.

You can inject yourself and your kids with as much poison as you like.

Did you have any injections after your motorcycle accident, be honest now....?  🤭

8 minutes ago, transam said:

Did you have any injections after your motorcycle accident, be honest now....?  🤭

Intravenous morphine and fluids. 

Just to be clear Stiddle Mump  If your kids come down with Measles or Mumps because you failed to innoculate them when they were young who will you blame ? or in your world will you let there body cure itself without the MMR Vaccine ?

9 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I thought this thread was about Anti Vaccines It's turned into a Covid thread. Spanish flu killed thousands in the 20s Guess what stopped the Deaths ??

Spanish flu was not caused by a virus Sir. It was not -as far as my research goes - an infectious disease.

Just now, BritManToo said:

Intravenous morphine and fluids. 

Did you ask the contents of the jabs to make sure it wasn't against your stance, or did you leave it up to the experts, no, not Red Phoenix......................?   

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Just to be clear Stiddle Mump  If your kids come down with Measles or Mumps because you failed to innoculate them when they were young who will you blame ? or in your world will you let there body cure itself without the MMR Vaccine ?

Measles and mumps are tell-tale signs that the body is trying to get back to normal good health.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Did you have any injections after your motorcycle accident, be honest now....?  🤭

Intravenous morphine and fluids. 

 

A tetanus booster....   its incredibly likely you were given one as simply a matter of course, you may not know about it, thats all.

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

A tetanus booster....   its incredibly likely you were given one as simply a matter of course, you may not know about it, thats all.

No, they asked I refused that one, said I already had one.

I always refuse tetanus boosters, easier to lie than to argue with them.

 

And my ethnic background makes the morphine ineffective.

Usually by the time it has any effect, whatever they were doing has finished.

Same with cannabis, I finish the joint before it has any effect.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Measles and mumps are tell-tale signs that the body is trying to get back to normal good health.

You should try reading the facts, not The Watchtower...........🤥

 

 https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/15007-mumps

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

No, they asked I refused that one, said I already had one.

I always refuse tetanus boosters, easier to lie than to argue with them.

 

You may as well not bother with seatbelts or a helmet at this stage...      fortunate is the word.

 

If you were to get bitten by a dog or monkey thats known to be rabid, would you take the Rabies vaccine, or let nature take its course ?

 

I'm just curious to what extent the anti-vaxx delusion extends...

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

You may as well not bother with seatbelts or a helmet at this stage...      fortunate is the word.

 

If you were to get bitten by a dog or monkey thats known to be rabid, would you take the Rabies vaccine, or let nature take its course ?

 

I'm just curious to what extent the anti-vaxx delusion extends...

They are Fruitcakes.......🥺

You will find Spanish Flu was caused by the Airborne virus H1N1 Influenza Virus. Next ??

 

 

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You may as well not bother with seatbelts or a helmet at this stage...      fortunate is the word.

 

If you were to get bitten by a dog or monkey thats known to be rabid, would you take the Rabies vaccine, or let nature take its course ?

 

I'm just curious to what extent the anti-vaxx delusion extends...

I've always said no to rabies vaccine.

Rabbit bit me last year, vet wanted me to have rabies vaccine, I said no.

Just now, BritManToo said:

I've always said no to rabies vaccine.

Rabbit bit me last year, vet wanted me to have rabies vaccine, I said no.

I have no doubt you did............

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm just curious to what extent the anti-vaxx delusion extends...

I've always said no to rabies vaccine.

Rabbit bit me last year, vet wanted me to have rabies vaccine, I said no.

 

Thank you for the confirmation.

What Dodgy sites did you get your Research from ? because what ever it was you were given false info. You want more evidence Stiddle ?

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Thank you for the confirmation.

My pal was bitten by a dog while walking up the Pilgrims Trail last month.

He didn't get vaccinated either, he's still alive.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

My pal was bitten by a dog while walking up the Pilgrims Trail last month.

He didn't get vaccinated either, he's still alive.

Not all dogs have rabies, I suppose you ask them if they get too close, eh..............

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

My pal was bitten by a dog while walking up the Pilgrims Trail last month.

He didn't get vaccinated either, he's still alive.

 

I had a mate who was in a car accident and wasn't wearing his seatbelt - he's still alive.

 

Now...   given your previous comments in other (non-vax) threads, I know for a fact you are not stupid - so why insist on presenting the most unintelligent arguments you can find ????

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Covid was a military operation, run by the US. Nothing to do with health, or a virus.

 

They claim the lockdowns "destroyed the world". 

The world is still here, last time I checked. The lockdowns disrupted the status quo. But so what? 

I'm not watching all of this.

The guy's accent gets on my nerves and it's mostly bs. 

 

11 hours ago, transam said:

The vax does not stop you getting Covid......🤒

exactly my point!! so it's not a real!

12 hours ago, ericthai said:

exactly my point!! so it's not a real!

I think you should do some research on how the covid vax works........🙄

7 minutes ago, transam said:

I think you should do some research on how the covid vax works........🙄

Yes, it surely works - but not in the way it is told/sold to you. 

The shots are not only unsafe and ineffective, but more importantly: they are also totally unnecessary.   

Sure, they are great for virtue-signalling and showing your compliance to clueless Public Health authorities.  If that makes you tick > keep on boosting!