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What is 'good health'? Why do we get sick?

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We do get sick; some more often than others. But, what does 'getting sick/ill' actually mean? What is actually happening in our bodies to make us feel poorly? Why do illnesses do us harm, and even kill us? Why do we get the runs? Why do we get headaches? Why do we get rashes? What are coughs and sneezes actually for?

 

The dreaded cancer. What is it? Is it a good thing to detect a tumor? Obviously, it's better not to develop one. But what would have been the result if a tumor had not been formed?

 

What should we do, as we age (70+) to ensure the best of health?

 

If this topic gets you thinking, and you'd like to hear what I've got to say, and discuss aspects of it; then let's get to it. But!! Be prepared to read some stuff that you might never of thought of; and probably not read anywhere else.

 

And! Just as a side issue: I'm not one for copying and pasting huge extracts from the www. If I don't know it; I'll not be searching Google, looking it us.

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    What I think?  The truth is the truth, no-matter what I think.   Vaccines have nothing what-so-ever to do with preventing sickness, and will not keep one healthy.   Can't poison th

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    Thanks for that Sir.   I'll not be intrusive into your lifestyle and medical history, but let me say this.   The body forms the tumor itself. Quite deliberately. It does the deed f

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    TBH, I've never heard of the guy.   As for the immune system; I think the term has been hi-jacked by the immunologists and virologists. Our whole body is a defense and maintenance system. Wo

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1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

 

The dreaded cancer. What is it? Is it a good thing to detect a tumor? Obviously, it's better not to develop one. But what would have been the result if a tumor had not been formed?

 

 

yeah detection is a goood thing... I'd be dead otherwise.

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1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

yeah detection is a goood thing... I'd be dead otherwise.

Please elaborate and we can discuss.

What is good Health???

Definitely not what YOU think.

To keep yourself healthy you have to protect yourself from getting sick.

By vaccines too, if available.

 

It will for ever remain a mystery as there are no viruses or bacteria or protozoans.....

 

Who knows.......leaded petrol, unfiltered water. bad vapours....

 

If only we had a body scientific endeavour trying to discover what causes illness and disease.......oh well.....soldier on.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Please elaborate and we can discuss.

 

 

Kidney, 7cm malignant tumor, removed before spread.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

What is good Health???

Definitely not what YOU think.

To keep yourself healthy you have to protect yourself from getting sick.

By vaccines too, if available.

 

What I think?  The truth is the truth, no-matter what I think.

 

Vaccines have nothing what-so-ever to do with preventing sickness, and will not keep one healthy.

 

Can't poison the body into good health.

The OP has never mentioned hereditary ailments, why is that........?   🙄

 

Or why we are living longer, why is that..........🙄

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3 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Or why we are living longer, why is that..........🙄

Medical advancements

Just now, Ralf001 said:

Medical advancements

The OP dodges that kinda stuff......🥴

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3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Kidney, 7cm malignant tumor, removed before spread.

 

Thanks for that Sir.

 

I'll not be intrusive into your lifestyle and medical history, but let me say this.

 

The body forms the tumor itself. Quite deliberately. It does the deed for a reason. Not always specifically clear why, but usually to stop a worse event.

 

A tumor is formed when the body is under stress to eliminate something it don't want. If it can't eliminate the poison/toxins that have found their way into the body, in real time, it does the next best thing. That is to package the toxicity and tuck it away. This is extremely common. Problems arise when the root causes are not addressed. This could be outside the control of the natural body. The poisons keep arriving, in too great a quantity, or over a too long a period of time. The tumor gets bigger and causes problems.

 

The answer is to get to the root causes. Better late than never. But better not at all.

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4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for that Sir.

 

I'll not be intrusive into your lifestyle and medical history, but let me say this.

 

The body forms the tumor itself. Quite deliberately. It does the deed for a reason. Not always specifically clear why, but usually to stop a worse event.

 

A tumor is formed when the body is under stress to eliminate something it don't want. If it can't eliminate the poison/toxins that have found their way into the body, in real time, it does the next best thing. That is to package the toxicity and tuck it away. This is extremely common. Problems arise when the root causes are not addressed. This could be outside the control of the natural body. The poisons keep arriving, in too great a quantity, or over a too long a period of time. The tumor gets bigger and causes problems.

 

 

 

yeah... sounds like BS.

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6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

yeah... sounds like BS.

OK! So we don't agree. At least you are recovered.

 

BTW, did any white-coat ask you about your environment/history/lifestyle? To try to discover what caused the problem in the first place; and to prevent similar in the future?

 

What do you think were the root causes of the problem?

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

 

BTW, did any white-coat ask you about your environment/history/lifestyle?

 

Nope.

 

4cm Lump detected during lung xray (severe pnuemonia both lungs), it grew 3cm in 4 months... kidney removed weeks later at my request,

 

Thailand health care is fantastic.

59 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We do get sick; some more often than others. But, what does 'getting sick/ill' actually mean? What is actually happening in our bodies to make us feel poorly? Why do illnesses do us harm, and even kill us? Why do we get the runs? Why do we get headaches? Why do we get rashes? What are coughs and sneezes actually for?

 

The dreaded cancer. What is it? Is it a good thing to detect a tumor? Obviously, it's better not to develop one. But what would have been the result if a tumor had not been formed?

 

What should we do, as we age (70+) to ensure the best of health?

 

If this topic gets you thinking, and you'd like to hear what I've got to say, and discuss aspects of it; then let's get to it. But!! Be prepared to read some stuff that you might never of thought of; and probably not read anywhere else.

 

And! Just as a side issue: I'm not one for copying and pasting huge extracts from the www. If I don't know it; I'll not be searching Google, looking it us.

Genetics play a part. Then it's up to us to do whatever we can to protect our immunity so we don't get diseases. By vaccines, healthy diet, reduction of stress and exercise. Adopting the Blue Zone diet as soon as possible helps many live to as old an age as their genetics will allow, as we all age. The most important part of our system is our gut microbiome, and taking care of that is easy if you can eat healthy and forget the junk, as well as not smoking and drinking too much, sticking to wine, especially the reds.

 

There are things that can take over the body and weaken it. Diseases and viruses, that kill thousands yearly, including some people who take good care of themselves.

 

I've only had one problem in all my life besides the joints from lifting too heavy too long. Contracting H Pylori while living here, likely from the water. It happens to 2/3 of the population but only about 20% has it affect them negatively, where you have to undergo treatment, with 2 antibiotics and a proton pump antacid, to kill it. It then kills much of your gut microbiome so you have to eat many good things to try and get the microbiome back. If you leave H Pylori untreated, it can cause ulcers and cancer.

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6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Nope.

 

4cm Lump detected during lung xray (severe pneumonia both lungs), it grew 3cm in 4 months... kidney removed weeks later at my request,

 

Thailand health care is fantastic.

So! What's to stop the body reacting in the same way further up the line?

 

Try to get to the root causes Sir. You'll not regret it.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

So! What's to stop the body reacting in the same way further up the line?

 

Try to get to the root causes Sir. You'll not regret it.

 

Regrets ?

 

zero.

 

I will take myself out soon, bout 18 months is the plan.

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The body is an absolute fortress. It has evolved through millions of years to be our first-class defender to things that might harm us.

 

The skin is a big protector. The mucus membranes and lungs do a great job of stopping toxins getting into our blood from inhaling. The stomach will sort through the ingested grub and liquids; taking out what is needed, and sending the rest down the pan. And so on.

 

The body has intricate and complex systems. They work with each other to maintain a positive optimal state within the body.

 

To avoid getting too much complication - I'll condense it down to three, that if properly cared for, will look after us:

The chemical
The electrical
The emotional

The first concerns us with three basic entities; food, drink and air.
The second is the balance of the body's bio-electrical mechanisms.
The last is our emotional well-being and state of mind.

 

I content that it is not germs that make us sick. Not viruses that make us sick. Not epidemics that make us sick. It is the unbalancing of any the three states (above) that are responsible for sickness and illness.

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4 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Regrets ?

 

zero.

 

I will take myself out soon, bout 18 months is the plan.

Your body reacted/adapted to something. What it did, it did for a reason.

 

If you could just be fairer to your own body you might still be with us in 69 years time.

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The body is an absolute fortress. It has evolved through millions of years to be our first-class defender to things that might harm us.

Your beliefs don't begin to describe the real world and thankfully also do not impact it.  It remains what it is despite your faulty thinking.

 

In reality the infectious agents are also evolving via natural selection.  Those variants that successfully reproduce displace the less successful variants over time.  The result is a constant slowly unfolding battle between us and the 'bugs'.

20 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Your body reacted/adapted to something. What it did, it did for a reason.

 

If you could just be fairer to your own body you might still be with us in 69 years time.

 

 

I have a window of age for my deparure... living to 69... yuck.

Staying above ground level is good health i think

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9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Your beliefs don't begin to describe the real world and thankfully also do not impact it.  It remains what it is despite your faulty thinking.

 

In reality the infectious agents are also evolving via natural selection.  Those variants that successfully reproduce displace the less successful variants over time.  The result is a constant slowly unfolding battle between us and the 'bugs'.

Don't agree with you Sir.

 

I'm very much aware of the 'real world'. We are nature's children, and will take care of us. If, we look after ourselves.

 

There is no evidence that I'm aware of that shows contagious agents are all around us.

 

Why do we get sick? We get sick when the natural state of the body - that is good health - is compromised. We will get into this in-depth later in the topic. Right now I'm going out to buy some ducks with me daughter.

 

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

The OP has never mentioned hereditary ailments, why is that........?   🙄

 

Or why we are living longer, why is that.....?.....🙄

Have you all noticed that the OP has yet again not answered my questions........🙄

I'd say there are a few things that lead to bad health other than the obvious lifestyle ones that everyone knows about (like smoking, alcohol consumption, and obesity etc.).

1. If you have poor mitochondrial function, as this is increasingly being recognised as playing a large roll in many diseases. Basically, they produce energy and regulate the life span of cells etc. and when not working properly can damage organs in the body (a very basic description though, I admit). Best way to get this working properly is to have a healthy gut, so that means eating healthy, taking pro-biotics/sterols etc., amongst other things.

 

2. Poor quality of ubiquitous mass-produced food and UPF. When you look at the ingredient list of many things it reads like some long list of things you've never even heard of (i.e. Frankenstein foods) that belongs in a chemistry lesson at university.

 

3. Environmental pollution. Most people have no idea how much environmental pollution they are subjected to each day in so many different ways, especially from the air and plastics... even many food and water sources are compromised. It's impossible to avoid and can only be limited a bit through your actions. Many foods are simply toxic because of corner-cutting and greed to make profit... better to cook at home as these days you just don't know what you are eating at many (not all) restaurants etc.

 

4. Sugar. Sugar is one of the most detrimental things you can eat and has only recently found its way into our general diet to such a huge extent. It's cheap, makes things taste better, gives you instant energy and all that, but it is not in sink with our body or health. For many tens of thousands of years, there was pretty much no sugar in our diet really, other than fruit (fructose not the refined nonsense), and many places would have had little fruit, so when our bodies did get sugar the body quickly turned any excess into fat so it could be used later and helped us to survive harsher times. Nowadays, sugar is so widerspread that the very function that saved us long ago now works against us, as the body still converts any excess into fat... hence the obesity problem everywhere now. Best thing you can do is only eat limitted amounts of sugar, even though it is everywhere and in so many things... hard to avoid.

 

5. Genes and DNA. Some are more blessed with this than others and it's a spin of the wheel when born. Hard to explain sometimes when a 32 year-old athelete gets cancer and dies whereas many functioning alcoholics live into their late 70s etc.

 

There are likely others too, but that will do for today.

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

What I think?  The truth is the truth, no-matter what I think.

Well, all what you post, reflects what you think. But TRUTH??? Never ever.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Vaccines have nothing what-so-ever to do with preventing sickness

We live in 2025, not in medieval times. Wake up.

Keeping a healthy immune system is best way to avoid getting sick.  IMHO

 

Has been for me, and seems easy enough to accomplish with healthy eating choices and a wee bit of exercise.

 

Many bacterial & viral infections even easier to keep at bay, using a bit of common sense and making the right choices; foods, venues, your own personal hygiene.

12 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not always specifically clear why, but usually to stop a worse event.

 

There is nothing worse than the tumor itself. Which will kill you. 

 

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