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VICIOUS

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VICIOUS - An essay by UNBEKOMING

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Source: https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/vicious

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Very recognizable for those willing to see, and still the unmistakable truth hits you as a punch in the gut...

> The waiting room is clean. The receptionist is polite. The forms ask reasonable questions. Nothing in the physical environment suggests danger. The magazines are current. The hand sanitizer dispenser works. Someone has chosen calming colors for the walls.

A pregnant woman sits in a chair designed for her comfort. She has been told to be here. Not ordered—no one orders. Recommended. Strongly recommended. Everyone does this. Her mother did this. Her friends did this. The women in her prenatal group compare notes about their appointments the way they compare notes about nursery furniture. Which provider did you choose? What tests have you had? The questions assume the answers. The answers assume the questions.

She will be offered things today. Offered is the word used. The offers will come with information sheets that list risks and benefits in tabular form. She will sign consent documents. Everything will be voluntary in the legal sense. No one will hold her down. No one will threaten her. She will choose, and her choices will feel like choices, and she will leave feeling she has done the responsible thing.

What she will not feel is the weight of what has been arranged before she arrived. The scheduling software that ensures the appointment is short enough to be profitable. The protocol that determines which tests are “standard” regardless of her individual circumstances. The liability calculations that make defensive intervention safer for the provider than watchful waiting. The training her provider received, which did not include the word “cascade” and did not question the premises. The pharmaceutical representative who visited last month. The professional guidelines written by committees with financial ties to the interventions they recommend. The insurance code that reimburses procedures but not conversations. The architecture of the building itself, which presumes birth is a medical event requiring medical facilities.

None of this is secret. All of it is documented, published, occasionally debated in journals that no one outside the profession reads. The machinery operates in plain sight. It has operated for so long that its operation feels like nature—the way medicine works, the way pregnancy is managed, the way responsible people behave.

She cannot see it because she is inside it. The water she swims in. The air she breathes. The climate of her experience.

You can read the full article after that introduction here > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/vicious

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The article mentions Gardasil.

I remember when this became free in Australia - it was a big deal.

Here are a few facts;

There is extensive, high-quality evidence that the Gardasil HPV vaccine has worked in Australia, which was the first country to introduce a national, free, school-based HPV vaccination program in 2007. 

Research conducted over the past 15+ years shows substantial declines in HPV infections, genital warts, and pre-cancerous cervical abnormalities, placing Australia on track to become the first country to eliminate cervical cancer as a public health problem by 2028–2035. 

It's ok to be cynical about the processes described but this is a pretty good news story eh. Nature didn't have the answers we seek on this occasion.

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

VICIOUS - An essay by UNBEKOMING

image.png

Source: https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/vicious

= = =

Very recognizable for those willing to see, and still the unmistakable truth hits you as a punch in the gut...

> The waiting room is clean. The receptionist is polite. The forms ask reasonable questions. Nothing in the physical environment suggests danger. The magazines are current. The hand sanitizer dispenser works. Someone has chosen calming colors for the walls.

A pregnant woman sits in a chair designed for her comfort. She has been told to be here. Not ordered—no one orders. Recommended. Strongly recommended. Everyone does this. Her mother did this. Her friends did this. The women in her prenatal group compare notes about their appointments the way they compare notes about nursery furniture. Which provider did you choose? What tests have you had? The questions assume the answers. The answers assume the questions.

She will be offered things today. Offered is the word used. The offers will come with information sheets that list risks and benefits in tabular form. She will sign consent documents. Everything will be voluntary in the legal sense. No one will hold her down. No one will threaten her. She will choose, and her choices will feel like choices, and she will leave feeling she has done the responsible thing.

What she will not feel is the weight of what has been arranged before she arrived. The scheduling software that ensures the appointment is short enough to be profitable. The protocol that determines which tests are “standard” regardless of her individual circumstances. The liability calculations that make defensive intervention safer for the provider than watchful waiting. The training her provider received, which did not include the word “cascade” and did not question the premises. The pharmaceutical representative who visited last month. The professional guidelines written by committees with financial ties to the interventions they recommend. The insurance code that reimburses procedures but not conversations. The architecture of the building itself, which presumes birth is a medical event requiring medical facilities.

None of this is secret. All of it is documented, published, occasionally debated in journals that no one outside the profession reads. The machinery operates in plain sight. It has operated for so long that its operation feels like nature—the way medicine works, the way pregnancy is managed, the way responsible people behave.

She cannot see it because she is inside it. The water she swims in. The air she breathes. The climate of her experience.

You can read the full article after that introduction here > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/vicious

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If only your mother had to give birth against a tree in a clearing in winter we might not have to continue to deal with your anti science anti medicine waffling…

Used to be a tough road to get to 5 yrs of age.

Used to be sad when your aunt scratched herself on a rose bush and died of sepsis… ohh but they were good them ol days weren’t they ?

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20 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The article mentions Gardasil.

I remember when this became free in Australia - it was a big deal.

Here are a few facts;

There is extensive, high-quality evidence that the Gardasil HPV vaccine has worked in Australia, which was the first country to introduce a national, free, school-based HPV vaccination program in 2007. 

Research conducted over the past 15+ years shows substantial declines in HPV infections, genital warts, and pre-cancerous cervical abnormalities, placing Australia on track to become the first country to eliminate cervical cancer as a public health problem by 2028–2035. 

It's ok to be cynical about the processes described but this is a pretty good news story eh. Nature didn't have the answers we seek on this occasion.

Indeed the article mentions Gardasil, and also contains a link to a separate article from the same author about the 'benefits' of Gardasil. Did you check that article out > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/hpv-and-cancer

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11 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Indeed the article mentions Gardasil, and also contains a link to a separate article from the same author about the 'benefits' of Gardasil. Did you check that article out > https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/hpv-and-cancer

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I suppose it comes down to sources and whether you can give credence to the Australian figures. I think you might agree that Australia is less affected by the issues that concern you in terms of influence of pharmaceutical companies.

I know this can get down to a he said AI said but it is a useful tool to attempt to get some idea on this.

The Australian source of information for this is what I consider trustworthy sources.

  • National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS): This agency provides the Annual Immunisation Coverage Reports using data from the Australian Immunisation Register (AIR).

  • Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW): The AIHW manages national health data, including the National Cervical Screening Program Monitoring Reports and the Human Papillomavirus in Australia (2025) Fact Sheet.

  • Centre of Research Excellence in Cervical Cancer Control (C4): A collaboration of Australian leaders in HPV vaccination that produces the annual Cervical Cancer Elimination Progress Report.

  • The Kirby Institute (UNSW Sydney): Leads the Genital Warts Surveillance Network, the world’s largest study monitoring HPV vaccination impact on genital warts through 34–35 sexual health clinics.

A source used in the article from Australia is Dr Little who appears to be a GP who does have some good practical experience in this area but concerns include:

  • Lack of Causal Link: The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) and other global bodies (like the CDC and WHO) have reviewed her reports and conducted large-scale population studies. They concluded that POI occurs at the same background rate in vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, suggesting the cases she observed were coincidental rather than caused by the vaccine.

  • Case Reports vs. Population Data: In medicine, individual case reports (like those published by Dr. Little) are used to flag potential issues but are considered the lowest level of evidence. Large-scale meta-analyses, which include millions of participants, have consistently found no correlation between the HPV vaccine and autoimmune or reproductive disorders.

  • Official Responses: Australian health authorities (ATAGI and TGA) have explicitly reviewed her submissions and maintained their recommendation for the vaccine, stating her claims are "not supported by the body of evidence".

So she hasn't been ignored and scientists have addressed her issues - if you have no respect or trust for the governmental and other bodies noted then I suppose we hit a wall ...

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This lengthy article by A Midwestern Doctor addresses the disaster HPV-vaccine Gardasil. Seems we have not learned any lessons from it.

Story at Glance

  • Two decades ago, Merck introduced Vioxx, a profitable NSAID, despite knowing it could cause numerous heart attacks. After facing overwhelming lawsuits and ultimately withdrawing Vioxx, Merck quickly pushed Gardasil, an HPV vaccine, to market to recover losses.

  • Gardasil proved to be extremely dangerous, yet both Merck and the FDA ignored the alarming data and continued promoting it, even as it resulted in unprecedented injuries, including autoimmunity, POTS, infertility, and death. Notably, many of these issues mirror those associated with the COVID-19 vaccines.

  • This article examines the dangers of the HPV vaccine, the reasons behind its risks—including its tendency to cause rather than prevent cervical cancer—and the extensive negligence of the FDA and CDC. These lessons are crucial for understanding the events surrounding COVID-19.

Prior to COVID-19, I considered Gardasil (for HPV) to be the most dangerous and unjustifiable vaccine on the market. It’s truly remarkable how many parallels can be found between it and the COVID-19 vaccines, so I feel it’s critically important for this already forgotten story to be told.

> You can read the deep-dive into the whole story in this very interesting but rather lengthy article here >

 https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-hpv-vaccine-disaster-was-a-blueprint

Yet again, another topic, under the Health umbrella, that the authorities would rather not be broadcast. Well done Red; The Man. Hats off to you Sir.

Anyone remotely awake, would stop any thought pf their kids having this dreadful injection. simply toxic gruel.

Nature has the answers we seek.

15 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

This lengthy article by A Midwestern Doctor addresses the disaster HPV-vaccine Gardasil. Seems we have not learned any lessons from it.

Story at Glance

  • Two decades ago, Merck introduced Vioxx, a profitable NSAID, despite knowing it could cause numerous heart attacks. After facing overwhelming lawsuits and ultimately withdrawing Vioxx, Merck quickly pushed Gardasil, an HPV vaccine, to market to recover losses.

  • Gardasil proved to be extremely dangerous, yet both Merck and the FDA ignored the alarming data and continued promoting it, even as it resulted in unprecedented injuries, including autoimmunity, POTS, infertility, and death. Notably, many of these issues mirror those associated with the COVID-19 vaccines.

  • This article examines the dangers of the HPV vaccine, the reasons behind its risks—including its tendency to cause rather than prevent cervical cancer—and the extensive negligence of the FDA and CDC. These lessons are crucial for understanding the events surrounding COVID-19.

Prior to COVID-19, I considered Gardasil (for HPV) to be the most dangerous and unjustifiable vaccine on the market. It’s truly remarkable how many parallels can be found between it and the COVID-19 vaccines, so I feel it’s critically important for this already forgotten story to be told.

> You can read the deep-dive into the whole story in this very interesting but rather lengthy article here >

 https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-hpv-vaccine-disaster-was-a-blueprint

And poor Brandy Vaughan gave her life to bring Vioxx to public attention.

"Medical school should be renamed Pharma school. Doctors only learn to treat symptoms with drugs, while ignoring the causes. Good heath can't be found in a doctor's office."

Brandy Vaughan: Ex-Merck Pharma rep & www.LearnTheRisk.org founder.

RIP dear.

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