21 minutes ago, khunphil said:

Well, as you are quite sure she will never unblock you, your story is finished. I am surprised this can sill happen in 2026. Really ? Trolling maybe ...
Post a picture ! You have nothing to loose now. Some guys in Phuket or Singapore maybe can help ... ;-)
PS : and yes, she will answer back..one day. Have you ever closed a bank account that still had money in it? NO !

To be honest I know it screams scam and you probably thinking this guy has no idea etc
At some point there was some genuine connection and she did have some trust in me (and no not just about the money)

Let's assume I least had some cred for her, the fact she has vanished quickly is a kick in the guts, I've actually known her for 3 years.

I would love to show a pic but I can't be that low, it's part of my nice guy problem even with this hurt I wouldn't do it to her :(

5 hours ago, wil iam not said:

Hope you get to see the new boobies.

Join the queue!😁

5 hours ago, hopelessthailover said:

I sent her 5,000 THB last Friday while blocked; she accepted the money.

That's good, so she can still receive money. I suggest sending her more, maybe 20,000, and then you can add a note with the transfer "Please unblock me" - maybe that will work.

4 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh goodie, another Dear Abby posting.

You're in the right place.

The Pub forum and it's knowledgeable members are here to help.

Exactly Skip, always find a sympathetic shoulder to cry on here!!😉

23 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

subbed to see the end of the tale

How do you see this playing out? How do you all see this playing out

The recap:
- Left phuket Jan 09 (she stayed with me, everything fine)
- Last spoke weds 21/01 (video and text no issues), blocked friday 23/01
- Gone to singapore I presume 23/01
- Mate (who we both know and he travelled in Jan with us) reached out to her on 24/01 asking how she is doing etc no response no block
- Looks like she met a new guy, posting pictures solo but with emoji distant love heart in one and then in another story a graphic rose on top of her solo pic

That's the gist of the situation, people (including some other thai girls that I know), keep telling me she will be back she will unblock etc etc but I can't see it happening can you?

2 minutes ago, SABloke said:

That's good, so she can still receive money. I suggest sending her more, maybe 20,000, and then you can add a note with the transfer "Please unblock me" - maybe that will work.

Unfortunately can't send note with Western Union unless someone knows how hehe not that I should be sending money anyway

Reading the follow up posts from the OP, it is clear that the hook is still deeply set and that he is still clinging to the lies of the scam. It is not uncommon for scam victims to keep searching for truth in the middle of obvious deception. The clearest and saddest sign that he is still hooked is that he hopes she will unblock him someday so she can take more money from him. In reality, her cutting him off was the best outcome possible. He is too blinded by her fraud techniques to realize how fortunate he is right now to be free from further financial loss.

2 hours ago, hopelessthailover said:

I actually did put in AI so it could

You put it through AI so it could refine your Czechoslovakian English.

1 minute ago, Terrance8812 said:

Reading the follow up posts from the OP, it is clear that the hook is still deeply set and that he is still clinging to the lies of the scam. It is not uncommon for scam victims to keep searching for truth in the middle of obvious deception. The clearest and saddest sign that he is still hooked is that he hopes she will unblock him someday so she can take more money from him. In reality, her cutting him off was the best outcome possible. He is too blinded by the fraud techniques to realize how fortunate he is right now to be free from further financial loss.

I must admit you are right, I haven't fully accepted when I should
Yes the block is what is making me keep thinking the whole thing, I feel it's so personal and yeah I would be lying if i didn't want her to unblock

I can also say it's not because I'm rushing to get her dying love back etc, it's more how did she just throw 3 years time and energy without even just saying a message... i.e I found someone else etc then block, or wait until I pay more money for the surgery then block why was it such an immediate thing?

Just now, save the frogs said:

You put it through AI so it could refine your Czechoslovakian English.

Nahh to be honest I asked AI for similar experiences then I asked it to summarise my experience never knew it would spark like doubt

Apart from shame I really don't have much to hide about the this story, I'm trying to be open and transparent and yes people think it couldn't possibly be true, but unfortunately it is
As I said it's first real relationship with thai girl from Thailand so it's been a big learning experience

5 hours ago, MarkT63 said:

Is this serious or just a wind up??

Yawn..... just another wind-up

35 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

To be honest I know it screams scam and you probably thinking this guy has no idea etc
At some point there was some genuine connection and she did have some trust in me (and no not just about the money)

Let's assume I least had some cred for her, the fact she has vanished quickly is a kick in the guts, I've actually known her for 3 years.

I would love to show a pic but I can't be that low, it's part of my nice guy problem even with this hurt I wouldn't do it to her :(

If you share her ThaiFriendly account name, I would be more than happy to step in as your mediator and facilitate the conversation effectively.

12 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

I must admit you are right, I haven't fully accepted when I should
Yes the block is what is making me keep thinking the whole thing, I feel it's so personal and yeah I would be lying if i didn't want her to unblock

I can also say it's not because I'm rushing to get her dying love back etc, it's more how did she just throw 3 years time and energy without even just saying a message... i.e I found someone else etc then block, or wait until I pay more money for the surgery then block why was it such an immediate thing?

As others have said, cut your losses and move on is the best way. There's only one real reason you were blocked. She didn't want to confront you with the truth, likely her finding another.

Thai women have done this for decades. They'll get money from various sources while you think you're the only one. All you have to do is spend time on this forum to hear the stories, one a little like yours recently.

There are decent women here and many foreigners have found them, and there are scammers all over the rest of us have hooked up with, and spent a lot of money, bought cars, built houses, gold, etc, all the while they sucked us in with no intention to stay. Or made excuses to leave, like all narcissists do, turning things around trying to make you out as the enemy.

I wouldn't recommend throwing any more money away on someone who's blocked you. She'll likely come back and make up an excuse why she did this, and they are charming to say the least. But it will surely happen again down the road. You can find many women here you can spend your money on, besides the working girls, and some are legitimate.

This incident doesn't make you stupid but unaware of what goes on here. I moved here because I created a child with my now ex, who's a covert narcissist, liar, cheater, manipulator and she's been doing this for quite awhile, according to her own family. Married again to a man living in Germany she sees a few times a year while she has a few boyfriends here he doesn't yet know about. Dangerous actions that usually backfire in time.

Judging by the little bit of information we have it is likely she has had multiple sponsors this whole time, or she met somebody who stepped up in a big way and she just doesn't have the energy or the interest in playing you anymore.

Either way you need to cut your losses and move on, if it were me I'd be blocking her, and I would never send her another baht, nor would I accept her contrition if it ever came, because it would just be another game.

It sounds like you've been coming back and forth and you haven't spent any really significant time together, which means that you've never really had a chance to get to know who and what she is.

I have so many friends, who come here, and from the very start, make the same mistakes they made back in the West. Except here, they do not need to make those mistakes. The environment does not dictate that they behave like lambs. Many do not know, or realize that, or they succumb to "force of habit". Every ship needs a captain. If the man is not willing to be the captain of the ship, the woman will take over, here in Thailand. Most women here seem to want a strong man. But, if they end up with a wimp, they will take over. They have to. Someone needs to be the captain!

So, keep your expectations low, and come here and really, really take your time getting to know her. What this means is consistent pushback from you, because she's going to want to step up the timetable, she's going to want it to move fast, she's going to want everything to happen right away, and you're going to have to be man enough to say sorry but I need a lot of time to determine whether or not you're the right woman for me, and I need a lot of time to get to know you. And I'm not going to be giving you a lot of money in the interim.

Always remember if it's good it's only going to get better, and if there are problems they're going to manifest themselves over time. So the worst thing you can do is rush headlong into this thing. Man up and do your gender justice. Make us proud.

The best chance any man has is to really be patient and really take his time. The woman is usually going to push to move things forward because she has an agenda, and the man always has to push back. Just say if you're not willing to be patient, if you're not willing to abide by my timeline then I'm just going to walk.

The biggest part of the problem here, is the extreme emasculation that is taking place in the West. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men, when it comes to dealing with their women. Their women have made their lives so difficult, and alot of women have gotten so far away from their innate femininity, and have become dominant, and super controlling, and men just go along with it. Most men have become so hungry for love, or emotionally desperate for some kindness, and TLC. And most are so desirous of being around a real woman, who knows how to act like a woman, and manifest the dignity, within femininity.

It is so easy for con artists here, to take advantage of emotionally wounded men, who seem to be willing to do anything to regain a semblance of normality in their lives, with a decent woman.

Time is our ally, not theirs, and if we constantly push back, if we insist on taking our time, that's about the only chance we have of developing a good, healthy relationship with a truly decent woman of substance.

The scammers are pretty easy to spot, you just have to know what to look for, and if you are willing to take your time, it becomes so much easier to spot the tell tale signs. Do not allow yourself to become a victim.

Wind-up.

Sounds like you temporarily lost your place in the queue. She'll be back, just don't be there for her. Move on and put it down to experience and a lesson learned.

28 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

Apart from shame I really don't have much to hide about the this story, I'm trying to be open and transparent and yes people think it couldn't possibly be true, but unfortunately it is
As I said it's first real relationship with thai girl from Thailand so it's been a big learning experience

Aha. Well there it is, we appreciate your honesty. Unless you've read at least a half dozen of the books on how to have a relationship with the Thai woman prior to engaging in one, you're just walking in blind, taking her at her word, and you have no idea what to expect or anticipate.

If there's one thing that's absolute for certain, it is that they all have a story, every once in awhile the story is true, but the vast majority of the time it's not, and most of the time they're being very well coached.

Buyer, or potential boyfriend beware. Be very careful. Take everything they are say with a grain of salt, in the beginning assume a lot of what they're telling you about their background is not true, and do your best to vet or verify some of the facts that they're telling you, if possible.

And be very hesitant to provide financial support until you really get to know them, and really get a sense of who they are, and what they're all about. Taut takes a long time. But it's also a good test, as often times if they are real they will demonstrate patience, and if they're scammers they won't.

When I lived and worked in India years ago I dealt with a lot of beggars on the street, and I started carrying around a little daypack full of fruit, and when people would beg I would offer them a piece of fruit. The ones that were real would accept it with gratitude, the ones who were scamming would look at me with scorn. The closest test to that that I can think of is really holding back on providing them support until you really get to know them.

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The biggest part of the problem here, is the extreme emasculation that is taking place in the West. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men

Could you share your insights on what it truly means to be a real man?

25 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It sounds like you've been coming back and forth and you haven't spent any really significant time together, which means that you've never really had a chance to get to know who and what she is.

Yes you are right, she wanted to come to Australia for a holiday but it's hard to get them here, in a way she is young doesn't have the maturity and I guess I just expected a bit more from her which was a mistake.

I probably saw some glimpses of her true value to me but obviously it was overshadowed but things I should of been looking at

6 hours ago, hopelessthailover said:

(from Patong)

That's all I needed to know.

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Aha. Well there it is, we appreciate your honesty. Unless you've read at least a half dozen of the books on how to have a relationship with the Thai woman prior to engaging in one, you're just walking in blind, taking her at her word, and you have no idea what to expect or anticipate.

If there's one thing that's absolute for certain, it is that they all have a story, every once in awhile the story is true, but the vast majority of the time it's not, and most of the time they're being very well coached.

Buyer, or potential boyfriend beware. Be very careful. Take everything they are say with a grain of salt, in the beginning assume a lot of what they're telling you about their background is not true, and do your best to vet or verify some of the facts that they're telling you, if possible.

And be very hesitant to provide financial support until you really get to know them, and really get a sense of who they are, and what they're all about. Taut takes a long time. But it's also a good test, as often times if they are real they will demonstrate patience, and if they're scammers they won't.

When I lived and worked in India years ago I dealt with a lot of beggars on the street, and I started carrying around a little daypack full of fruit, and when people would beg I would offer them a piece of fruit. The ones that were real would accept it with gratitude, the ones who were scamming would look at me with scorn. The closest test to that that I can think of is really holding back on providing them support until you really get to know them.

Thank you for your insights, initially I wasn't giving any more I was doing exactly that, but then she was giving the story that rent was due etc etc even sometimes if I would pay and she didn't have money for other things she would say I don't expect you to pay for anything cos you paid rent which at the time I thought was thoughtful but maybe part of the game.

At some point she did appreciate the money of course, and she did understand that can't get everything, but I guess as she got more comfortable she thought we were in a good place or she had scammed me enough that she didn't have to say anything

What you are all saying makes sense it's just the glimpses where things were a little normal and thought she was a little different and me not understand how desperate people are in patong for money I probably didn't appreciate that as much

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

The biggest part of the problem here, is the extreme emasculation that is taking place in the West. Most men, in the US, Europe, and Oz, are no longer real men, when it comes to dealing with their women. Their women have made their lives so difficult, and alot of women have gotten so far away from their innate femininity, and have become dominant, and super controlling, and men just go along with it. Most men have become so hungry for love, or emotionally desperate for some kindness, and TLC. And most are so desirous of being around a real woman, who knows how to act like a woman, and manifest the dignity, within femininity.

It is so easy for con artists here, to take advantage of emotionally wounded men, who seem to be willing to do anything to regain a semblance of normality in their lives, with a decent woman.

Time is our ally, not theirs, and if we constantly push back, if we insist on taking our time, that's about the only chance we have of developing a good, healthy relationship with a truly decent woman of substance.

The scammers are pretty easy to spot, you just have to know what to look for, and if you are willing to take your time, it becomes so much easier to spot the tell tale signs. Do not allow yourself to become a victim.

More feminism doesn't mean more men aren't real men . That's a generalization as you only really know a few men in the west , out of the millions.. I've never seen this in any of the countless men I've known in the states. Women have become stronger and more independent, which doesn't weaken men. It makes women more equal, which should happen.

If you talk to or read any books from counselors or psychologists, you'll see the problems these days are still the same as they've been for decades. Women complain their men spend too much time watching sports, drinking with friends, or out away from the house and not contributing, which has the women getting angrier. Men who control their women, both here and back home, aren't the ones who look at women as partners but objects and slaves to do what they say.

Many men dominated over women before women started to stick up for themselves, which was the men's problems. The best marriages I've ever known had couples where the man wasn't domineering. They talked all the time, and the woman knew the man was stronger in most ways.

I've met countless feminine women all over the west. Stronger,but still feminine. Men who see women trying to get equal and panic aren't real men. They've lost that domination, which shouldn't have happened anyway. It's a long time since caveman days when that's all they thought was right.

Here it isn't a normal situation. There are women here that are legitimate and aren't looking for money first, but it being a poor country, it's to be expected, especially when many of the local men don't do much of anything, especially regarding taking care of the women and the children. the men work, and think they can do anything, and get away with not supporting children they create by the thousands.

The women here aren't more feminine than the west. they're just stronger in the west. Here it's a Buddhist country, and Buddhism looks at women as secondary from the get go, so the women have learned to be subservient, and they carry that into their marriages, especially with foreigners. where more money means more things.

Some men are controlled by their women in the west, and many women here try to control their men, especially seeing they can't get away with it with the local men, who just leave if any strife happens. Western men here are more likely to let the women get away with more, seeing their wives are usually younger than the west. This is why con artists run rampant here. The desire for a younger face and body has men losing their minds, at least for awhile.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

More feminism doesn't mean more men aren't real men . That's a generalization as you only really know a few men in the west , out of the millions.. I've never seen this in any of the countless men I've known in the states. Women have become stronger and more independent, which doesn't weaken men. It makes women more equal, which should happen.

Many men dominated over women before women started to stick up for themselves, which was the men's problems. The best marriages I've ever known had couples where the man wasn't domineering. They talked all the time, and the woman knew the man was stronger in most ways.

I've met countless feminine women all over the west. Stronger,but still feminine. Men who see women trying to get equal and panic aren't real men. They've lost that domination, which shouldn't have happened anyway. It's a long time since caveman days when that's all they thought was right.

Here it isn't a normal situation. There are women here that are legitimate and aren't looking for money first, but it being a poor country, it's to be expected, especially when many of the local men don't do much of anything, especially regarding taking care of the women and the children. the men work, and think they can do anything, and get away with not supporting children they create by the thousands.

The women here aren't more feminine than the west. they're just stronger in the west. Here it's a Buddhist country, and Buddhism looks at women as secondary from the get go, so the women have learned to be subservient, and they carry that into their marriages, especially with foreigners. where more money means more things.

Some men are controlled by their women in the west, and many women here try to control their men, especially seeing they can't get away with it with the local men, who just leave if any strife happens. Western men here are more likely to let the women get away with more, seeing their wives are usually younger than the west. This is why con artists run rampant here. The desire for a younger face and body has men losing their minds, at least for awhile.

Western women are very butch. Twice the size, weight and strength.

Asian women look 10 years younger than white women too.

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Asian women look 10 years younger than white women too.

Especially if the Asian woman is 10 years younger than the white woman.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Asian women look 10 years younger than white women too.

Until they hit 40, and by the time they're 50, if they aren't an exercise and healthy eating person, they look 10 years older. More women work out in the west by a huge margin, even if the population is comprised of fatter people there. it's slowly catching up here, as the obesity and overweight rates in Thailand have been slowly creeping up because of the influx of western junk food. Give it 20 more years and the percentage will be much higher.

7 hours ago, hopelessthailover said:

Hi everyone, I’m looking for some perspective on my current situation.

Background:
I’ve been with my Thai girlfriend (from Patong) for 2 years. I’ve supported her significantly and we’ve been very close—I was with her in Jan, and she even asked when I’m returning (planned for Sept). I’ve been her emotional rock, often staying on video calls while she sleeps. She met my friends and my friends family.

I've met her friends, she used to say I love you even in front of friends, there was no real fight to cause the trigger

Last weds she told me she hurt her foot video called me and we chatted I helped her out, we messaged a bit more everything was normal. On thursday I reached out and said good morning but never got a reply by friday she blocked me for no reason. There was no argument or a trigger to cause the block

The Situation:
She recently told me while I was in phuket 2 weeks ago she needed 60,000 THB for surgery (doctor coming from BKK to Phuket). I gave her 20,000 THB to start.
Shortly after I can see she went to singapore. Last time I went she claimed she’s staying at a "friend's condo" for a holiday, I even gave her money last time and she was so appreciative almost cried etc.

The Red Flags:

• My assumption is that she arrived in Singapore, she blocked me on everything.

• She is still posting on social media, her latest shows a love heart emoji in the distance.

• She is still wearing the jewelry I gave her in her posts.

• I sent her 5,000 THB last Friday while blocked; she accepted the money.

• A mutual friend messaged her; she didn't block him, but she didn't reply either.

• The surgery is supposedly scheduled for Jan 31st (this Saturday).

My Conflict:
I haven’t reached out since last Saturday (5 days of total silence). I’m worried she’s found someone else or has multiple sponsors, but I also wonder if she’s just in "work mode" to raise the remaining 40,000 THB for her surgery and blocked me to avoid the "guilt" or drama of me seeing her in that environment.

I’m struggling with the urge to reach out.
Does this sound like a standard "Singapore working holiday" where she’ll unblock me once she’s back in Patong, or am I being ghosted for good?

Appreciate your advice, I'm a hopeless "nice" guy

I feel for you. I truly do. So much so that I am prepared to fully reimburse you your financial losses up to now. If you could just send me your full banking details then I will arrange for prompt payment to be made.

I promise this is on the level. Would someone of such standing within the Nigerian Royal family tell a lie? I think not.

I look forward to receiving said details at your earliest convenience.

2 hours ago, hopelessthailover said:

How do you see this playing out? How do you all see this playing out

The recap:
- Left phuket Jan 09 (she stayed with me, everything fine)
- Last spoke weds 21/01 (video and text no issues), blocked friday 23/01
- Gone to singapore I presume 23/01
- Mate (who we both know and he travelled in Jan with us) reached out to her on 24/01 asking how she is doing etc no response no block
- Looks like she met a new guy, posting pictures solo but with emoji distant love heart in one and then in another story a graphic rose on top of her solo pic

That's the gist of the situation, people (including some other thai girls that I know), keep telling me she will be back she will unblock etc etc but I can't see it happening can you?

Why would you need advice from strangers about how to handle your life ???? Any question about love relationship should be directed to your mother, as she knows apparently more than you, or only to yourself.
Just realize that even if she comes back, this will happen again.

1 - don't run after a girl, except if you think you are so ugly, poor and stupid and she is so cute, clever and rich, that this is the woman no to loose !
2 - Line, block, unblock, show reception icon or not, can be easily faked.
3 - if she comes back, this will happen again, and if not, she will make your life miserable and YOU will try to get away, blocking her message, inventing stories, when you will find a genuine one !
Be a man, you are not 18 anymore.
Good luck