This is another BS story. Having a girlfriend of two years in Thailand and not aware of the scams, a person could not be that naive. Author has only been a member for 23 hours. These people that write these stories must lead a lonely life with imaginary friends.

Just now, Jack Hammer said:

This is another BS story. Having a girlfriend of two years in Thailand and not aware of the scams, a person could not be that naive. Author has only been a member for 23 hours. These people that write these stories must lead a lonely life with imaginary friends.

It's not a BS story, I swear I only joined recently cos it happened last Weds so it's fresh. It's not a story just to amuse, wish it wasn't the case. It actually did happen everything I said is true, I got suckered into it and obviously I take accountability for that part

Not sure how I have to prove it?

17 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

More feminism doesn't mean more men aren't real men . That's a generalization as you only really know a few men in the west , out of the millions.. I've never seen this in any of the countless men I've known in the states. Women have become stronger and more independent, which doesn't weaken men. It makes women more equal, which should happen.

If you talk to or read any books from counselors or psychologists, you'll see the problems these days are still the same as they've been for decades. Women complain their men spend too much time watching sports, drinking with friends, or out away from the house and not contributing, which has the women getting angrier. Men who control their women, both here and back home, aren't the ones who look at women as partners but objects and slaves to do what they say.

Many men dominated over women before women started to stick up for themselves, which was the men's problems. The best marriages I've ever known had couples where the man wasn't domineering. They talked all the time, and the woman knew the man was stronger in most ways.

I've met countless feminine women all over the west. Stronger,but still feminine. Men who see women trying to get equal and panic aren't real men. They've lost that domination, which shouldn't have happened anyway. It's a long time since caveman days when that's all they thought was right.

Here it isn't a normal situation. There are women here that are legitimate and aren't looking for money first, but it being a poor country, it's to be expected, especially when many of the local men don't do much of anything, especially regarding taking care of the women and the children. the men work, and think they can do anything, and get away with not supporting children they create by the thousands.

The women here aren't more feminine than the west. they're just stronger in the west. Here it's a Buddhist country, and Buddhism looks at women as secondary from the get go, so the women have learned to be subservient, and they carry that into their marriages, especially with foreigners. where more money means more things.

Some men are controlled by their women in the west, and many women here try to control their men, especially seeing they can't get away with it with the local men, who just leave if any strife happens. Western men here are more likely to let the women get away with more, seeing their wives are usually younger than the west. This is why con artists run rampant here. The desire for a younger face and body has men losing their minds, at least for awhile.

I guess we live in two completely different worlds. I find the women here to be much stronger than the women in the West on so many different levels, especially when it comes to their femininity and the comfort that they have and wearing it and expressing it. I find women in the west to be so incredibly weak and lightweight in that regard.

I have dozens upon dozens of friends and relatives in the West, and with very few exceptions they are all emasculated. Some of them are not even allowed to carry cash, as their wives have to monitor their every transaction, that is utterly pathetic.

I'll bet she's married and you've been milked to financial death.

I suspect she was your emotional rock and you were played from the beginning. If you don't walk away from it now you deserve everything you get. This is a typical playbook scenario and likely you are just one of many suckers she is playing.

Move on and don't look back.

3 minutes ago, wmorris61 said:

I'll bet she's married and you've been milked to financial death.

I suspect she was your emotional rock and you were played from the beginning. If you don't walk away from it now you deserve everything you get. This is a typical playbook scenario and likely you are just one of many suckers she is playing.

Move on and don't look back.

She is definitely not marries, but I see your poin about walking away and deserving what I get if I don't.
I definitely am a sucker, she has come from a broken home left home young age and I guess is resilient to this stuff

3 minutes ago, norfolkandchance said:

Spot on.

Just looked it up and yeah probably that's me gave too much benefit of the doubt and did more than the attention deserved (probably though I was helping save her) so stupid

On 1/29/2026 at 8:46 AM, hopelessthailover said:

The Red Flags:

• My assumption is that she arrived in Singapore, she blocked me on everything.

• She is still posting on social media, her latest shows a love heart emoji in the distance.

• She is still wearing the jewelry I gave her in her posts.

• I sent her 5,000 THB last Friday while blocked; she accepted the money.

• A mutual friend messaged her; she didn't block him, but she didn't reply either.

• The surgery is supposedly scheduled for Jan 31st (this Saturday).

I like that you made those Bullet Points

they are just like the "Key Takeaways" in the regular news articles on Aseannow even the formatting is the same, for example:

Key Takeaways:

• Nurse fired for TikTok advice on harming ICE agents.

• Outrage over Alex Pretti’s shooting fuels tensions.

• Contradictory evidence casts doubt on federal claims.

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I guess we live in two completely different worlds. I find the women here to be much stronger than the women in the West on so many different levels, especially when it comes to their femininity and the comfort that they have and wearing it and expressing it. I find women in the west to be so incredibly weak and lightweight in that regard.

I have dozens upon dozens of friends and relatives in the West, and with very few exceptions they are all emasculated. Some of them are not even allowed to carry cash, as their wives have to monitor their every transaction, that is utterly pathetic.

They aren't stronger here as independence makes one stronger. To get independence here for a woman, which isn't a normal thing, they either have to be born into money, or stay away from men for the most part while going to college, and finding a good paying job.

Women can be, and are, feminine everywhere. It all depends, like everything else does, on how they were raised as children. Here , its a lot less likely to be independent as they're looked at as secondary from the start. They have to fight this all their lives, separating themselves from the norm, to get independent thinking. Raised to be subservient, they do their part here to serve men, and that can get out of hand quick, with the women losing any independence they could have had, and having to rely on men, who for the most part don't do much besides work (if they do that), and look at their mothers, who were also looked at as subservient.

In the west, women are also looking at their mothers and fathers, and in the west, there are countless more fathers who are a lot more involved with their children, and also treat their wives a lot more equally than here. Buddhism has a lot to do with that in Asian cultures.

I've known women all my life in the west, and if you take aside the bitches who are abundant, there are many who act feminine but are also independent. You hear about Karens all the time, but that's a small fraction of all the women in the west, and even the women don't like them.

It's strange that your friends are mostly emasculated, as that's not something I, nor anyone else I've known, has seen. We did hear "she wears the pants in the family"or "pussy whipped", but that was the men joking if they saw their friend doing what the wife wanted them to do. That's not being whipped but a good husband.

I've never seen a husband controlled by their wives, although it does happen, as being a reader, I've heard stories from book writers, psychologists and counselors, that it does happen, but most of the time it's the man ignoring their wives in favor of a number of things, and the wives complaining their husbands do very little for them. A man gets emasculated largely because he's with a beautiful woman who demands, which is what heppens here a lot. Younger women with older men who don't match their looks.

As far as here, I have a friend, a school owner, who's a tad controlling to his students, but he's always said his wife has the money, and he has to ask for it when needed. This is a very well known, respected English teacher older than I. He's said to me, let your wife (at the time), handle the money, she'll be happier, but coming from the west, and independent, I knew what she was about and that's the last thing I would do, and as an afterthought, I found her to be a scamming liar. The women here that aren't loudmouth screamers are the ones who are doing most of the work in the household, and are pretty much slaves in action. Of course if you

are a foreigner with a younger Thai women, they'll be feminine and do a lot for you, as they're getting more than their friends who are with locals by and large. This link shows how Asian men appear.................https://www.woroni.com.au/words/an-angry-asian-man-why-is-the-idea-of-emasculation-toxic/

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

They aren't stronger here as independence makes one stronger. To get independence here for a woman, which isn't a normal thing, they either have to be born into money, or stay away from men for the most part while going to college, and finding a good paying job.

Women can be, and are, feminine everywhere. It all depends, like everything else does, on how they were raised as children. Here , its a lot less likely to be independent as they're looked at as secondary from the start. They have to fight this all their lives, separating themselves from the norm, to get independent thinking. Raised to be subservient, they do their part here to serve men, and that can get out of hand quick, with the women losing any independence they could have had, and having to rely on men, who for the most part don't do much besides work (if they do that), and look at their mothers, who were also looked at as subservient.

In the west, women are also looking at their mothers and fathers, and in the west, there are countless more fathers who are a lot more involved with their children, and also treat their wives a lot more equally than here. Buddhism has a lot to do with that in Asian cultures.

I've known women all my life in the west, and if you take aside the bitches who are abundant, there are many who act feminine but are also independent. You hear about Karens all the time, but that's a small fraction of all the women in the west, and even the women don't like them.

It's strange that your friends are mostly emasculated, as that's not something I, nor anyone else I've known, has seen. We did hear "she wears the pants in the family"or "pussy whipped", but that was the men joking if they saw their friend doing what the wife wanted them to do. That's not being whipped but a good husband.

I've never seen a husband controlled by their wives, although it does happen, as being a reader, I've heard stories from book writers, psychologists and counselors, that it does happen, but most of the time it's the man ignoring their wives in favor of a number of things, and the wives complaining their husbands do very little for them.

As far as here, I have a friend, a school owner, who's a tad controlling to his students, but he's always said his wife has the money, and he has to ask for it when needed. This is a very well known, respected English teacher older than I. He's said to me, let your wife (at the time), handle the money, she'll be happier, but coming from the west, and independent, I knew what she was about and that's the last thing I would do, and as an afterthought, I found her to be a scamming liar. The women here that aren't loudmouth screamers are the ones who are doing most of the work in the household, and are pretty much slaves in action. Of course if you

are a foreigner with a younger Thai women, they'll be feminine and do a lot for you, as they're getting more than their friends who are with locals by and large.

That's a fascinating discourse, but if you do not consider men in the west to be emasculated I believe that the vast majority of men around the world who have left the West could put up some very valid arguments about that, myself included.

The degree of emasculation that I see every day when I'm in America is astonishing, sad, pathetic, and simply not necessary, but it exists everywhere I look. And the number of American women that I run into that are truly comfortable with their own femininity is so minimal, and it takes away from their level of attractiveness to a astonishing degree for me personally.

But like you say you've been living there your whole life so you're used to it, and 99% of the men that I know there that are used to it, just don't see it.

12 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

I like that you made those Bullet Points

they are just like the "Key Takeaways" in the regular news articles on Aseannow even the formatting is the same, for example:

Key Takeaways:

• Nurse fired for TikTok advice on harming ICE agents.

• Outrage over Alex Pretti’s shooting fuels tensions.

• Contradictory evidence casts doubt on federal claims.

Just wanted to make it easier easier to read, my mistake was making AI write my initial post, I really should of just wrote it myself, didn't realise people wouldn't believe it

Just now, spidermike007 said:

That's a fascinating discourse, but if you do not consider men in the west to be emasculated I believe that the vast majority of men around the world who have left the West could put up some very valid arguments about that, myself included.

The degree of emasculation that I see every day when I'm in America is astonishing, sad, pathetic, and simply not necessary, but it exists everywhere I look. And the number of American women that I run into that are truly comfortable with their own femininity is so minimal, and it takes away from their level of attractiveness to a astonishing degree for me personally.

But like you say you've been living there your whole life so you're used to it, and 99% of the men that I know there that are used to it, just don't see it.

There's only two ways to know how men are treated. Living with them 24/7 or reading books on relationships written by the counselors and psychologists who interview the thousands of couples and see where troubles lie. I've done this for decades and they all same much the same things. men control their wives a lot more then the other way around, and it's the women who complain the most that their men don't so much yet they expect a lot from them. lack of communication does this in all relationships.I also lived in the states for 62 years, and by and large, what I saw daily was the women complaining their men weren't doing enough, which is the opposite of being emasculated. The same things I've always been reading about was what I saw and heard. It does happen a lot in black families, where the matriarch is often a demanding and abusive woman. This has the men growing up with anger against women, and they take this into their relationships.

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That's a fascinating discourse, but if you do not consider men in the west to be emasculated I believe that the vast majority of men around the world who have left the West could put up some very valid arguments about that, myself included.

The degree of emasculation that I see every day when I'm in America is astonishing, sad, pathetic, and simply not necessary, but it exists everywhere I look. And the number of American women that I run into that are truly comfortable with their own femininity is so minimal, and it takes away from their level of attractiveness to a astonishing degree for me personally.

But like you say you've been living there your whole life so you're used to it, and 99% of the men that I know there that are used to it, just don't see it.

This comes from one's opinion on what's happening, especially in those black families, and it shows how some are being emasculated by the women, and what happens afterward.............."One of my personal issues with the concept of emasculation, besides the fact it relies on traditional beliefs of toxic masculinity, is that it does not discuss how other parties are impacted by this traditional masculinity. It gives guidelines of men’s behaviors, such as be a leader, be decisive, be strong. What is the response that a woman or non-traditionally masculine person encounters when a man feels like his masculinity is being threatened? Will he resort to violence to express his authority? The traditional masculinity of yesteryear is idealized in the eyes of people who claim emasculation. Traditional masculinity is seen as the solution to all problems. Women would return to being feminine women. The world’s natural leaders would regain control of society and right social ills like increased divorce and obesity.  The idea of emasculation claims to explain why the world is in the state its in while failing to acknowledge that there are other issues at play in the nostalgia of the past. The idea that if men regain dominance in the home, then all other issues will fall into place is a near sided idea.  Not all men have experienced dominance in society, especially in the time of subjugation of people of color and women............................... Men actually continue to dominate society even if the men claiming emasculation do not see it. What men who claim emasculation want to see is the increased dominance of men. When women and people of color make steps towards equality, some people want to see time go backwards."

1 hour ago, hopelessthailover said:

Basically one of her toes got bloody, maybe small shoes etc she had to bandage it up
Just like you I thought maybe that was just a cover story, but in one of the photos in singapore you can see her toe is bandaged

Next time ask her to send the estimate from the hospital. Tell her you need a copy for your taxes to save you money.

The estimate will have her name, and other identifying info.

Likely they will say what, you don't trust or believe me. Say they didn't get an estimate or lost it. Respond it will save considerable money that would be paid to taxes. Thus more potential money for her.

Neighbor was podiatrist and actually talked about this from women wearing high heels which crammed toes together. He said most remedies are non surgical (change shoes, stretching foot, pad inserts. Possible nerve issue but unsure if this would require surgery.

3 minutes ago, J Branche said:

Next time ask her to send the estimate from the hospital. Tell her you need a copy for your taxes to save you money.

The estimate will have her name, and other identifying info.

Likely they will say what, you don't trust or believe me. Say they didn't get an estimate or lost it. Respond it will save considerable money that would be paid to taxes. Thus more potential money for her.

Neighbor was podiatrist and actually talked about this from women wearing high heels which crammed toes together. He said most remedies are non surgical (change shoes, stretching foot, pad inserts. Possible nerve issue but unsure if this would require surgery.

I should of been more clear, the toe incident is definitely from tight shoes

What she wanted to do for surgery was like this lipo thing to flatten the stomach, she did show me something from the hospital about an appointment supposedly on the 31st of jan as first option...

So the surgery is not linked to her toe, it's the stomach thing she wanted to get done. She said it would make her feel more confident. She is vane she always wants to try improve and be more beautiful because she has insecurities and believe it or not kinda shy

So based on all this I haven't tried to reach to her since Saturday, I've stayed in the dark
As of last night I have tried to stop looking at her socials (harder than it is)
I'm at a stage where I hope she would unblock me (even though it's the wrong thinking)
I'm working on myself, maybe I just need to get back on the horse and see what's out there

6 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

So based on all this I haven't tried to reach to her since Saturday, I've stayed in the dark
As of last night I have tried to stop looking at her socials (harder than it is)
I'm at a stage where I hope she would unblock me (even though it's the wrong thinking)
I'm working on myself, maybe I just need to get back on the horse and see what's out there

Either that or look for a more gullible audience.

Just now, theshu25 said:

Either that or look for a more gullible audience.

Do people think this story is made up, it's actually so true I couldn't even make it up
Basically just no more relationships with girls from patong (if it's even considered a relationship)
I just got caught up in the whole moment and thought she is doing it tough she must be looking up to me but all along she did the same thing over and over no doubt
maybe glimpses of affection but perhaps I read way too much into it and that's exactly how the whole thing goes right?

Good learning experience. It will toughen you up a bit.

28 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

So based on all this I haven't tried to reach to her since Saturday, I've stayed in the dark
As of last night I have tried to stop looking at her socials (harder than it is)
I'm at a stage where I hope she would unblock me (even though it's the wrong thinking)
I'm working on myself, maybe I just need to get back on the horse and see what's out there

Block her Line / unfriend on FB / Delete all mails / And don't read new mails (I know it is hard when you need closure, but this would be 99% sure bull<deleted>). Look at you in a mirror, move your lips and try to say "NO", "ENOUGH" ;-)

Also, get out, take one girl for the night, and have fun. Life is short. Oh and the day you will meet a normal one, good one, sincere one, you will have to wait weeks or months, before getting her in your bed ! That's true for most of the real Thai women. They need respect before you can touch them ! (raw but true, sorry)

46 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

So based on all this I haven't tried to reach to her since Saturday, I've stayed in the dark
As of last night I have tried to stop looking at her socials (harder than it is)
I'm at a stage where I hope she would unblock me (even though it's the wrong thinking)
I'm working on myself, maybe I just need to get back on the horse and see what's out there

Exactly. Not worth fretting over someone who blocks you, no matter the reason.

On 1/29/2026 at 8:46 AM, hopelessthailover said:

Hi everyone, I’m looking for some perspective on my current situation.

Background:
I’ve been with my Thai girlfriend (from Patong) for 2 years. I’ve supported her significantly and we’ve been very close—I was with her in Jan, and she even asked when I’m returning (planned for Sept). I’ve been her emotional rock, often staying on video calls while she sleeps. She met my friends and my friends family.

I've met her friends, she used to say I love you even in front of friends, there was no real fight to cause the trigger

Last weds she told me she hurt her foot video called me and we chatted I helped her out, we messaged a bit more everything was normal. On thursday I reached out and said good morning but never got a reply by friday she blocked me for no reason. There was no argument or a trigger to cause the block

The Situation:
She recently told me while I was in phuket 2 weeks ago she needed 60,000 THB for surgery (doctor coming from BKK to Phuket). I gave her 20,000 THB to start.
Shortly after I can see she went to singapore. Last time I went she claimed she’s staying at a "friend's condo" for a holiday, I even gave her money last time and she was so appreciative almost cried etc.

The Red Flags:

• My assumption is that she arrived in Singapore, she blocked me on everything.

• She is still posting on social media, her latest shows a love heart emoji in the distance.

• She is still wearing the jewelry I gave her in her posts.

• I sent her 5,000 THB last Friday while blocked; she accepted the money.

• A mutual friend messaged her; she didn't block him, but she didn't reply either.

• The surgery is supposedly scheduled for Jan 31st (this Saturday).

My Conflict:
I haven’t reached out since last Saturday (5 days of total silence). I’m worried she’s found someone else or has multiple sponsors, but I also wonder if she’s just in "work mode" to raise the remaining 40,000 THB for her surgery and blocked me to avoid the "guilt" or drama of me seeing her in that environment.

I’m struggling with the urge to reach out.
Does this sound like a standard "Singapore working holiday" where she’ll unblock me once she’s back in Patong, or am I being ghosted for good?

Appreciate your advice, I'm a hopeless "nice" guy

Brain surgery for both of you.

Can't be said better than this.

Short ones, tall ones, fine ones, kind ones.

Go get 'em.

On 1/29/2026 at 2:46 AM, hopelessthailover said:

Appreciate your advice, I'm a hopeless "nice" guy

The 40k baht might be the problem...

Never forget that when dating/living with a Thai lady, someone more "handsum" – for example loaded with 40k baht – might sometimes suddenly appear out of nowhere...

6 minutes ago, khunPer said:

The 40k baht might be the problem...

Never forget that when dating/living with a Thai lady, someone more "handsum" – for example loaded with 40k baht – might sometimes suddenly appear out of nowhere...

Yeah you are right, though there was no suggestion that I wasn't going to give it me, she never said are you going to send or not etc
But you are right someone could of said I'll give it to you when you come see me in singapore

43 minutes ago, khunphil said:

Block her Line / unfriend on FB / Delete all mails / And don't read new mails (I know it is hard when you need closure, but this would be 99% sure bull<deleted>). Look at you in a mirror, move your lips and try to say "NO", "ENOUGH" ;-)

Also, get out, take one girl for the night, and have fun. Life is short. Oh and the day you will meet a normal one, good one, sincere one, you will have to wait weeks or months, before getting her in your bed ! That's true for most of the real Thai women. They need respect before you can touch them ! (raw but true, sorry)

You are probably right about meeting the right one that will take a long time to sleep with

First I thought it was trolling or an AI story from some bored dude.

It is frightening that someone in his 40s can so easily be taken advantage by a prostitute with minimal or no education at all.

🙄🙄🙄

1 hour ago, hopelessthailover said:

Do people think this story is made up, it's actually so true I couldn't even make it up
Basically just no more relationships with girls from patong (if it's even considered a relationship)
I just got caught up in the whole moment and thought she is doing it tough she must be looking up to me but all along she did the same thing over and over no doubt
maybe glimpses of affection but perhaps I read way too much into it and that's exactly how the whole thing goes right?

IF, a big IF, your story is true post her photo so we can all be warned

Wake up and smell the coffee- she is a hooker- and a fresh bigger wallet has arrived

11 minutes ago, Redacce said:

First I thought it was trolling or an AI story from some bored dude.

It is frightening that someone in his 40s can so easily be taken advantage by a prostitute with minimal or no education at all.

🙄🙄🙄

Yep because I'm too nice of a guy that tries to the good in people which is a bad flaw of mine

There were the little things that I thought she did that may of made me think it was better than what it was. Telling me sit straight, coming on trips with my friends family (no exciting stuff), wanting to visit my country, letting me visit her private place, trying to find a normal job

All these things probably mean nothing now

2 minutes ago, Legal Lifeline said:

IF, a big IF, your story is true post her photo so we can all be warned

Wake up and smell the coffee- she is a hooker- and a fresh bigger wallet has arrived

Definitely has a bigger wallet now you are right about that. I don't want to post her pic I'm not that type of guy and I know you will say it's a cop out.
Small girl, goes to illuzion, early 20s, long blonde hair (extension), has a few tatts

3 minutes ago, hopelessthailover said:

Yeah you are right, though there was no suggestion that I wasn't going to give it me, she never said are you going to send or not etc
But you are right someone could of said I'll give it to you when you come see me in singapore

Thanks for your reply – seems like you are serious.

In my experience, if it might help: Many – perhaps most – Thai ladies see a man as a provider. I've several times hear a Thai lady say: "If a man cannot provide, why do I need him?" Look at the Thai-Farang relationship as relationships/marriages was in "old times" in the West, where the man/husband provided for the family.

When a Thai lady mention a cost of something, it's often supposed to be a polite request for the supporting man to pay; not to be followed up by something like "do you pay or not?" – i.e., if you dont pay I'll find another way (man) – she probably find another way, anyway...

From my experience – and this is my advise – I realized: Don't fall in love with a Thai girl, it hurts too much when you find out the way relationship works. Rather, look at it as a business-agreement: If the man can provide for her, she will return with care and love – if doesn't matter if it's true, as long as it's performed to an Academy Reward – many Thai girls learn from mum that a "good man" (husband) is a man that can provide, then love for him comes later...