Reality Based Martial Arts In Bangkok,thailand

[straightdave]

hello boys and girls 2/10/2009

Straightdave here, my first post, greetings to you all,

just to let you, and hopefully get your advice, that I will be living in beautiful thailand very soon .

I want to work with some guys already there and help bring reality based martial arts to bangkok.

I would like to know your opinion;

1- is there a market for this do you think?

2- can people ( men and ladys) in thailand handle hardcore reality based training ?( for example, in the FAST system, the instructor hurls very racist, sexist abouse at the student(s) to get then psyched up ( because although it's aweful, thats what happens on the street.

This is a concern for me as, quite frankly I have a hard time calling a black person a " <deleted> nXXX" and lady a ' <deleted> asian hooker" etc.

Even in USA people sometimes complain. Interestingly, not the subjects of the abuse, who sadly report this is what they have often heard,its usually people watching.

We hint whats in store for them.

How about training in urban CQB with airsoft?

How about the instense sort of military type selection training which pushes people until they are about to drop ( often seen in KAPAP seminars where I saw SF even have to work it)

3-have people here heard of;( and if so, what do you think of?)

A- FAST the system of Bill Kipp out of colarado? Ex marine, good people.

B- Southnarc, another true vet, its good to know theres guy like this alive and on our side.

C- Avi Nardia of the KAPAP combatives ( so much better than the cash and certify, krav-maga, ) Avi is an israeli living in US- good man, totally dedicated.

D- Richard Dimitri of Senshido out of canada.

E- ISR matrix , a new form of , how to describe it, combat wrestling, exellent for cops.

4- does anywhere do that already?

thats enough for my first

thanks much

SD

[TenDreams]

Yep, there's a class several times a week at Boxer Rebellion, soi 13, Sukhumvit.

You should come and check it out when you are here...although the teacher is fricking awesome, there are relatively few members in this class (does vary).

This is fine with me, as I get the odd private class every now and then!

In your list, I have only heard of C, but I'm just a beginner practitioner, the guys at the gym probably know the rest...they have a website

[SoiGirlHunter]

Dave, from what i see here in Thailand it is multiple attackers and usually armed. If its a single thai opponant and he starts to lose other

thai's will come to there defense quickly.

So for me I would avoid going to the ground at all costs and stick to strikes. If i see a weapon or multiple attackers I have a great Kobaton thats legal to

carry. I also have a great stun gun that looks just like a cell phone but i have heard they are illegal to carry. I even heard from a good

source sprays are illegal here too. Still trying to verify with police.

If you get a thai into a choke or submission on the ground I will bet other thai's will soon turn your head into a soccer ball.

The ultimate is conceal carrying a semi-auto pistol like an HK45 which i did in the usa legally (licence to carry) and it saved me twice without

unleashing (one was knife attack other was 3 on 1) a round but foreigners are not allowed to conceal carry in Thailand.

take care

SGH

[straightdave]

Dave, from what i see here in Thailand it is multiple attackers and usually armed. If its a single thai opponant and he starts to lose other

thai's will come to there defense quickly.

So for me I would avoid going to the ground at all costs and stick to strikes. If i see a weapon or multiple attackers I have a great Kobaton thats legal to

carry. I also have a great stun gun that looks just like a cell phone but i have heard they are illegal to carry. I even heard from a good

source sprays are illegal here too. Still trying to verify with police.

If you get a thai into a choke or submission on the ground I will bet other thai's will soon turn your head into a soccer ball.

The ultimate is conceal carrying a semi-auto pistol like an HK45 which i did in the usa legally (licence to carry) and it saved me twice without

unleashing (one was knife attack other was 3 on 1) a round but foreigners are not allowed to conceal carry in Thailand.

take care

SGH

I hear that about the ground-its place to be ready for,but avoid at all costs

another myth is that all fights go to the ground- this may be true if one is untrained,certainly not if trained

don't get me wrong- I love grappling, one has to know how to surf the turf, I have heard how one BJJ teacher in bangkok destroyed the muaythai army champ( no suprise to me at all)

but it does kinda teach a loving of going to the ground

I think its true in many places that people may join in

legal or not I fully intend to carry some of my little "toys", where did you pick up the phone stun gun?, sounds kinda cool

I have a vast collection of stuff that would persuade any lowlife to stop and think again.I collect it.

So, any idea on teaching there?

thanks man

appriciate the reply

[straightdave]

Yep, there's a class several times a week at Boxer Rebellion, soi 13, Sukhumvit.

You should come and check it out when you are here...although the teacher is fricking awesome, there are relatively few members in this class (does vary).

This is fine with me, as I get the odd private class every now and then!

In your list, I have only heard of C, but I'm just a beginner practitioner, the guys at the gym probably know the rest...they have a website

thanks 10D, can you tell me a little bit more

I really am an open minded journey man and I love the comardie of reality based and "workers" gyms

whats the background of the teacher(s) there?

seems like you have a nice bunch of guys at your place, the website is cool

[TenDreams]

thanks 10D, can you tell me a little bit more

I really am an open minded journey man and I love the comardie of reality based and "workers" gyms

whats the background of the teacher(s) there?

seems like you have a nice bunch of guys at your place, the website is cool

I think the best bet would be to come and see for yourself!

By the sounds of it, u might like the saturday afternoon sessions (2.30-4.00) which is based on weapons training and defense (other days cover these too, but sat. is more in depth). I am just a student there, and haven't been going for so long, so if u r already trained up, best u talk to some of the instructors.

Aside from what is written on the website under the instructor profiles, I can only tell u that the Krav teacher teaches much more than 'traditional' Krav (Kapap, and some other Israeli systems I can't remember the names of!) under the umbrella term 'combatives'.

From what I have seen, the guys are all cool and seem up for meeting like-minded ppl.

P.S.

If u find the thread in the general forum about the farang that disarmed and immobilized a Thai guy that was waving a gun around in Bangkok a few weeks ago, you might find some interesting reading!

[DavoP]

hello boys and girls 2/10/2009

Straightdave here, my first post, greetings to you all,

just to let you, and hopefully get your advice, that I will be living in beautiful thailand very soon .

I want to work with some guys already there and help bring reality based martial arts to bangkok.

I would like to know your opinion;

1- is there a market for this do you think?

2- can people ( men and ladys) in thailand handle hardcore reality based training ?( for example, in the FAST system, the instructor hurls very racist, sexist abouse at the student(s) to get then psyched up ( because although it's aweful, thats what happens on the street.

This is a concern for me as, quite frankly I have a hard time calling a black person a " <deleted> nXXX" and lady a ' <deleted> asian hooker" etc.

Even in USA people sometimes complain. Interestingly, not the subjects of the abuse, who sadly report this is what they have often heard,its usually people watching.

We hint whats in store for them.

How about training in urban CQB with airsoft?

How about the instense sort of military type selection training which pushes people until they are about to drop ( often seen in KAPAP seminars where I saw SF even have to work it)

3-have people here heard of;( and if so, what do you think of?)

A- FAST the system of Bill Kipp out of colarado? Ex marine, good people.

B- Southnarc, another true vet, its good to know theres guy like this alive and on our side.

C- Avi Nardia of the KAPAP combatives ( so much better than the cash and certify, krav-maga, ) Avi is an israeli living in US- good man, totally dedicated.

D- Richard Dimitri of Senshido out of canada.

E- ISR matrix , a new form of , how to describe it, combat wrestling, exellent for cops.

4- does anywhere do that already?

thats enough for my first

thanks much

SD

I am familar with all on your list and have trained with 3/5. The other 2 have been influential, but I've not yet trained with them. They all have something to offer, but for me, ISR Matrix has been head and shoulders above the other 50+ other programs that I have attended.

As to airsoft CQB training and "selection type training" involving extreme physical exercises and in some cases "punishments" I think this attracts those that want to associate with the image of the soldier, yet probably failed the psych tests. It seems to be the same crowd that reads Soldier of Fortune magazine and tells bs stories. Not saying you are one of these, just that that sort of training often attracts weirdo's.

I am in Thailand again next month. Happy to RV for some training if you wish.

[straightdave]

hello boys and girls 2/10/2009

Straightdave here, my first post, greetings to you all,

just to let you, and hopefully get your advice, that I will be living in beautiful thailand very soon .

I want to work with some guys already there and help bring reality based martial arts to bangkok.

I would like to know your opinion;

1- is there a market for this do you think?

2- can people ( men and ladys) in thailand handle hardcore reality based training ?( for example, in the FAST system, the instructor hurls very racist, sexist abouse at the student(s) to get then psyched up ( because although it's aweful, thats what happens on the street.

This is a concern for me as, quite frankly I have a hard time calling a black person a " <deleted> nXXX" and lady a ' <deleted> asian hooker" etc.

Even in USA people sometimes complain. Interestingly, not the subjects of the abuse, who sadly report this is what they have often heard,its usually people watching.

We hint whats in store for them.

How about training in urban CQB with airsoft?

How about the instense sort of military type selection training which pushes people until they are about to drop ( often seen in KAPAP seminars where I saw SF even have to work it)

3-have people here heard of;( and if so, what do you think of?)

A- FAST the system of Bill Kipp out of colarado? Ex marine, good people.

B- Southnarc, another true vet, its good to know theres guy like this alive and on our side.

C- Avi Nardia of the KAPAP combatives ( so much better than the cash and certify, krav-maga, ) Avi is an israeli living in US- good man, totally dedicated.

D- Richard Dimitri of Senshido out of canada.

E- ISR matrix , a new form of , how to describe it, combat wrestling, exellent for cops.

4- does anywhere do that already?

thats enough for my first

thanks much

SD

I am familar with all on your list and have trained with 3/5. The other 2 have been influential, but I've not yet trained with them. They all have something to offer, but for me, ISR Matrix has been head and shoulders above the other 50+ other programs that I have attended.

As to airsoft CQB training and "selection type training" involving extreme physical exercises and in some cases "punishments" I think this attracts those that want to associate with the image of the soldier, yet probably failed the psych tests. It seems to be the same crowd that reads Soldier of Fortune magazine and tells bs stories. Not saying you are one of these, just that that sort of training often attracts weirdo's.

I am in Thailand again next month. Happy to RV for some training if you wish.

hi thanks for that

no I sure am not one of 'those" but I know what you mean and

want to provide basic training, at the same time avoiding the wanna-bee soldier types you mention .Its a bit of balanceing act I know.

But people should have basic training in those things made available to them, don't you think?

There is no real sort of punishments- just very stress induced scenario's.

This is part and parcel of the FAST sylabus- and I really rate that.

Glad you liked the ISR, I was with a bunch of LAPD last week going through the drill's and I thought " HELLO BABY, where you been all my life..?" it really rocked, are you certified in it?

can we work on it together, that would be cool, please send me a message on that and the other arts I mentioned.

Avi nardia will be over in december and bill kipp in the new year, as well as southnarc. Late dec this year a certified ISR buddy of mine will be in bkok to give a seminar in it

lets stay in touch

thanks

D

[DavoP]

hello boys and girls 2/10/2009

Straightdave here, my first post, greetings to you all,

just to let you, and hopefully get your advice, that I will be living in beautiful thailand very soon .

I want to work with some guys already there and help bring reality based martial arts to bangkok.

I would like to know your opinion;

1- is there a market for this do you think?

2- can people ( men and ladys) in thailand handle hardcore reality based training ?( for example, in the FAST system, the instructor hurls very racist, sexist abouse at the student(s) to get then psyched up ( because although it's aweful, thats what happens on the street.

This is a concern for me as, quite frankly I have a hard time calling a black person a " <deleted> nXXX" and lady a ' <deleted> asian hooker" etc.

Even in USA people sometimes complain. Interestingly, not the subjects of the abuse, who sadly report this is what they have often heard,its usually people watching.

We hint whats in store for them.

How about training in urban CQB with airsoft?

How about the instense sort of military type selection training which pushes people until they are about to drop ( often seen in KAPAP seminars where I saw SF even have to work it)

3-have people here heard of;( and if so, what do you think of?)

A- FAST the system of Bill Kipp out of colarado? Ex marine, good people.

B- Southnarc, another true vet, its good to know theres guy like this alive and on our side.

C- Avi Nardia of the KAPAP combatives ( so much better than the cash and certify, krav-maga, ) Avi is an israeli living in US- good man, totally dedicated.

D- Richard Dimitri of Senshido out of canada.

E- ISR matrix , a new form of , how to describe it, combat wrestling, exellent for cops.

4- does anywhere do that already?

thats enough for my first

thanks much

SD

I am familar with all on your list and have trained with 3/5. The other 2 have been influential, but I've not yet trained with them. They all have something to offer, but for me, ISR Matrix has been head and shoulders above the other 50+ other programs that I have attended.

As to airsoft CQB training and "selection type training" involving extreme physical exercises and in some cases "punishments" I think this attracts those that want to associate with the image of the soldier, yet probably failed the psych tests. It seems to be the same crowd that reads Soldier of Fortune magazine and tells bs stories. Not saying you are one of these, just that that sort of training often attracts weirdo's.

I am in Thailand again next month. Happy to RV for some training if you wish.

hi thanks for that

no I sure am not one of 'those" but I know what you mean and

want to provide basic training, at the same time avoiding the wanna-bee soldier types you mention .Its a bit of balanceing act I know.

But people should have basic training in those things made available to them, don't you think?

There is no real sort of punishments- just very stress induced scenario's.

This is part and parcel of the FAST sylabus- and I really rate that.

Glad you liked the ISR, I was with a bunch of LAPD last week going through the drill's and I thought " HELLO BABY, where you been all my life..?" it really rocked, are you certified in it?

can we work on it together, that would be cool, please send me a message on that and the other arts I mentioned.

Avi nardia will be over in december and bill kipp in the new year, as well as southnarc. Late dec this year a certified ISR buddy of mine will be in bkok to give a seminar in it

lets stay in touch

thanks

D

PM sent. I'd be very interested to hear more about the ISR seminar. Who is teaching it? Is there any links?

[ISRMatrix]

Glad you liked the ISR, I was with a bunch of LAPD last week going through the drill's and I thought " HELLO BABY, where you been all my life..?" it really rocked, are you certified in it?

can we work on it together, that would be cool, please send me a message on that and the other arts I mentioned.

Avi nardia will be over in december and bill kipp in the new year, as well as southnarc. Late dec this year a certified ISR buddy of mine will be in bkok to give a seminar in it

lets stay in touch

thanks

D

I am on the ISR Matrix Board of Directors and the authorised regional representative and Field Instrucor for Asia.

Straight Dave please contact me regarding the ISR course and course instructor that you have scheduled late Dec as there appears to be some confusion. Neither ISR Matrix International or myself are aware of any scheduled approved courses in Bangkok.

There is however a course planned for Phuket next year.