He Right Or Wrong?

[makavelli]

Hi people,

Right my mate brought his Thai girlfriend over to the Uk about a year ago on a fiancee visa, she stayed for about 4 months and returned back to Thailand because they were'nt ready to get married etc etc. He has visited her many many times over the last year or so. He just got back yesterday from Thailand and told me that he is sorting a settlement visa (2years) for her to come over and stay in the Uk.

Am I correct in thinking that u have to be married to get a settelment visa?

He has told some people that he is'nt married to her and can get this settlement visa no problem at all and she can stay for 2 years in the Uk and work.

[Monkeypants]

Hi people,

Right my mate brought his Thai girlfriend over to the Uk about a year ago on a fiancee visa, she stayed for about 4 months and returned back to Thailand because they were'nt ready to get married etc etc. He has visited her many many times over the last year or so. He just got back yesterday from Thailand and told me that he is sorting a settlement visa (2years) for her to come over and stay in the Uk.

Am I correct in thinking that u have to be married to get a settelment visa?

He has told some people that he is'nt married to her and can get this settlement visa no problem at all and she can stay for 2 years in the Uk and work.

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Maybe he doesn't want people to know he is married, in case she up's and off's

She must be married to get a settlement visa for 2 years, at least in this instance

[slimsam]

Maybe he doesn't want people to know he is married, in case she up's and off's

She must be married to get a settlement visa for 2 years, at least in this instance

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May be she will come over on a visitor visa and simply stay here illegally. Many girls do. If she has Thai friends here in the UK then they will probably tell her how easy it is !

Of course it will lead to problems in the long term. She wont be able to work (except in Thai resturants). She wont be able to go back to Thailand or if she does she wont get another UK Visa. She wont be able to get bank accounts, etc.

Getting deported is also an unpleasant experience and it does seem to happen regularly to Thai women.

[the scouser]

It is possible that she might be applying for a visa in another category which would get her 1/2/3 years and enable her to work but, certainly, in order to get a settlement visa valid for 2 years and giving the right to work, you have to be married.

Cheers,

Scouse.

[bkk_mike]

I thought that the UK would permit a settlement visa for long-term common-law partners, at the discretion of the visa officer. (i.e. to allow for people who can't marry, like gay couples).

However, for her to get a 2 year visa, allowing working, it sounds like they're probably married (or he's arranged some sort of job for her, so she's coming over on a regular work visa).

Edited May 27, 2005 by bkk_mike

[samran]

I thought that the UK would permit a settlement visa for long-term common-law partners, at the discretion of the visa officer. (i.e. to allow for people who can't marry, like gay couples).

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True, but it requires a relationship akin to marriage. That requires things like joint bank accounts, names on utlities, and most importantly, living in the same place together for the 2 years.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

I thought that the UK would permit a settlement visa for long-term common-law partners, at the discretion of the visa officer. (i.e. to allow for people who can't marry, like gay couples).

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True, but it requires a relationship akin to marriage. That requires things like joint bank accounts, names on utlities, and most importantly, living in the same place together for the 2 years.

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The new avatar is a worry Samran

[ozzydom]

I thought that the UK would permit a settlement visa for long-term common-law partners, at the discretion of the visa officer. (i.e. to allow for people who can't marry, like gay couples).

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True, but it requires a relationship akin to marriage. That requires things like joint bank accounts, names on utlities, and most importantly, living in the same place together for the 2 years.

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The new avatar is a worry Samran

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Perhaps samran could not find picture of Banana Republic

[samran]

I thought that the UK would permit a settlement visa for long-term common-law partners, at the discretion of the visa officer. (i.e. to allow for people who can't marry, like gay couples).

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True, but it requires a relationship akin to marriage. That requires things like joint bank accounts, names on utlities, and most importantly, living in the same place together for the 2 years.

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The new avatar is a worry Samran

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Perhaps samran could not find picture of Banana Republic

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Gets people talking. No-one seemed to recognise Jack Dyer, so I changed it. Seems to a mysteriously 'reverted' to an old one I had..... I wonder why?

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Pick something less contentious willya ? There's always Sir Robert M

[samran]

I could always try John Howard.....

Actually, the great man is featured in todays SMH and Age online...hence the idea. Read it, very interesting.

Banana republic? National debt is twice what it was is 1996. I like the picture, am keeping it....always a bit of fun and gets people talking (civily of course).

[dr_Pat_Pong]

[TizMe]

Love him or hate him, he sure livened up Oz parliament.

He was a better sledger than any of the sportsman...

Some great quotes from the man:

What we have got is a dead carcass, swinging in the breeze, but nobody will cut it down to replace him.

- On John Howard

…the brain-damaged Leader of the Opposition…

- On John Howard

From this day onwards, Howard will wear his leadership like a crown of thorns, and in the parliament I’ll do everything to crucify him.

- On John Howard

But I will never get to the stage of wanting to lead the nation standing in front of the mirror each morning clipping the eyebrows here and clipping the eyebrows there with Janette and the kids: It’s like ‘Spot the eyebrows’.

- On John Howard

I am not like the Leader of the Opposition. I did not slither out of the Cabinet room like a mangy maggot…

- On John Howard

Come in, sucker…

- To John Howard

The principle saboteur, the man with the cheap fistful of dollars.

- On John Howard

He’s wound up like a thousand day clock.

- On John Howard

He is the greatest job and investment destroyer since the bubonic plague.

- On John Howard

He has more hide than a team of elephants.

- On John Howard

I do not want to hear any mealy-mouthed talk from the Member for Benelong.

- On John Howard

This is the sort of little-boy, stamp your foot stuff which comes from a financial yuppie when you shoe him into parliament.

- On John Hewson

Like being flogged with a warm lettuce.

- On John Hewson

I was implying that the Honorable Member for Wentworth was like a lizard on a rock - alive, but looking dead.

- On John Hewson

I’d put him in the same class as the rest of them: mediocrity.

- On John Hewson

I suppose that the Honourable Gentleman’s hair, like his intellect, will recede into the darkness.

- On Andrew Peacock

…if this gutless spiv, and I refer to him as a gutless spiv…

- On Andrew Peacock

The Leader of the Opposition is more to be pitied than despised, the poor old thing. The Liberal Party ought to put him down like a faithful dog because he is of no use to it and of no use to the nation.

- On Andrew Peacock

We’re not interested in the views of painted, perfumed gigolos.

- On Andrew Peacock

It is the first time the Honourable Gentleman has got out from under the sunlamp.

- On Andrew Peacock

What we have as a leader of the National Party is a political carcass with a coat and tie on.

- On Ian Sinclair

Codd will be lucky to get a job cleaning shithouses if I ever become Prime Minister.

- On Mike Codd

..the brain-damaged Honorable Member for Bruce made his first parliamentary contribution since being elected, by calling a quorum to silence me for three minutes.”

- On Ken Aldred

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“Mr Speaker can I have some protection from the clowns on the front bench ?”

“…for the dullard on the front bench opposite”

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“Where you all come aguster is, over here we think we’re born to rule you. And let me tell you this, it’s been ingrained in me from childhood, I think my mission in life is to run you.”

“You were heard in silence, so some of you SCUMBAGS on the front bench should wait a minute until you hear the responses from me.”

“What really amuses me and almost makes me spew…”

“They have no ideas, no integrity and no ability.”

“###### them for being the cheats they are.”

“You are frauds.”

“…votes for coalition members who have always been cheats, cheats, cheats and will always be cheats, cheats, cheats and will always defend cheats, cheats, cheats.”

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“These intellectual hoboes”

“This rabble opposite”

“…for the benefit of the blockheads opposite”

“If the dummies opposite will just shut up”

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“Talk about desperadoes”

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“…the cowboys on this front bench”

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“We will be rejecting the opportunist claptrap coming from the Opposition.”

“Honorable Members opposite squeal like stuck pigs”

“…small time punk stuff coming from a punk Opposition.”

“The animals on the other side”

Laurie Oakes is a cane toad.

- On Laurie Oakes

You had an important place in Australian society on the ABC and you gave it up to be a pop star…with a big cheque…and now you’re on to this sort of stuff. That shows what a 24 carat pissant you are, Richard, that’s for sure.

- To Richard Carleton

That you Jim? Paul Keating here. Just because you swallowed a ######ing dictionary when you were about 15 doesn’t give you the right to pour a bucket of shit over the rest of us.”

- To Former Labour politician, Jim McClelland (on the phone)

######ing animals.

- On the Press

Go and get a job!

- To a University student protesting about fees

[dr_Pat_Pong]

The Speaker had to be on Paul's private payment list

[makavelli]

Just spoke to my mate and he reckons he has got his g/f a 2 year working visa, is this possible?

Apparently she went and got her National Insurance card yesterday, I thought u had to be married before u could work?

Thanks.

[the scouser]

It really depends upon which paragraph of the Immigration Rules your friend's g/f has fulfilled. From what you've posted it seems like it may be a common-law set up. If not, has she gotten a work permit etc.....

Scouse.

[makavelli]

Hi Scouse, well last year she came across on a fiancee visa and then returned back to Thailand within the 6 months of that visa because they did not get married. I just think that he is trying to hide that he is married. When I went round to see him the first time he told me it was a settlement visa he had obtained for now, now I he says it is a 2 year working visa. Me thinks he is scared or ashamed to tell people that he is married to her.

[the scouser]

Hi Makavelli,

It does sound as if they are married. She could bave a work permit but this would restrict her to working for the employer designated on the permit. Also, work permits are only given to those performing specialist jobs for which there is a lack of takers in the UK. She couldn't be on a working holiday as Thailand is not a Commonwealth country. If after the 2 years, your friend tells you that his g/f now has indefinite leave then you will know that they are, indeed, married.

Scouse.

[samran]

Does indeed sound as if he is hiding the fact that he is married, otherwise he got it under the defacto provision, but that is a very hard one to prove. I can't think of any 2 year UK work visa in existence (unless it is a Working holdiday visa - which isn't available to thai's anyway)

I actually apply for my FLR next week for both myself and my wife. At £330, I better bl00dy hope I get it!!

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Good luck PJK

[samran]

Good luck PJK 

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Thanks doc, and if I don't get it, I think there are worse fates than being deported back to my choice of Thailand, Australia or NZ.......

[dr_Pat_Pong]

The UN at work eh ?