CDC sub-committee to propose provisions on citizenship and rights

[Lite Beer]

CDC sub-committee to propose provisions on citizenship and rights

BANGKOK, 7 December 2014 (NNT) - A sub-committee of the Constitutional Drafting Committee is planning to propose the inclusion of provisions related to Thailand’s citizens.

Chairman of the first CDC sub-committee Manit Suksomchit said his team has concluded that the sub-committee has approved to propose the provisions on citizenship and citizenship rights in the new charter.

Under the suggested provisions, the sub-committee stated that the government has the responsibility to enable the citizens to live under the rule of Constitutional Monarchy and become quality members of the society and the country.

In doing so, the government is to provide sufficient and compulsory education for students of all levels, the sub-committee urged.

Mr. Manit said that the government office to be responsible for these endeavours included the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and the Ministry of Education.

-- NNT 2014-12-07

[tomross46]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

[jaltsc]

"...the government is to provide sufficient and compulsory education for students of all levels..."

The first thing they need to do is change their definition of "sufficient".

[Equalizer]

Roll up Roll up, gather around, all spouses of Thai citizens put your hands up. We are offering you not a 4th class citizenship, no, in fact we are not offering you a 3rd class citizenship. No ladies and gentlemen here today you can get for free one 2nd class citizenship. Now that's a bargain. Yes folks you can go home and tell your children that you are now proudly a 2nd class Thai citizen. Hurraa Hurraa. ''IDIOTS''

[animatic]

"... become quality members of the society and the country..."

In comparison to whom?

[Commerce]

"the government has the responsibility to enable the citizens to live under the rule of Constitutional Monarchy and become quality members of the society and the country."

Fetch me!!! Somebody just read A Tale of Two Cities. Dickensian ain't quite the word on this little utterance.

[Pib]

"...the government has the responsibility to enable the citizens to live under the rule of Constitutional Monarchy and become quality members of the society and the country. In doing so, the government is to provide sufficient and compulsory education for students of all levels.

Just a bunch of politically correct words strung together...doesn't really say a lot...but I guess the CDC sub-committee members feel they have written something that will ring through the ages or until the next Thai constitution which seems to be averaging about every 4 or so years.

Edited December 7, 2014 by Pib

[Alwyn]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

[binjalin]

"... become quality members of the society and the country..."

In comparison to whom?

any Citizen not "on message"

[Pib]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Where does it say anything about "giving" citizenship? I t only talks "enable the citizen to live under...."

[Robby nz]

I hope these provisions include granting citizenship to hill tribe people and others who have lived in the country for generations and who at present are excluded.

[Thai at Heart]

"... become quality members of the society and the country..."

In comparison to whom?

Quality= content in his correct position

[dru2]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

No, they fought for about five hours and Thais were killed.

[Alwyn]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

No, they fought for about five hours and Thais were killed.

5 hours? That's longer than the French lasted

[tingtong]

and here I am, reading the headline, for a moment I thought maybe finally get some break to be resident/citizen in a country where I live with my thai citizen wife, and thai (duel) citizen son for over a decade...

[rickirs]

"the government has the responsibility to enable the citizens to live under the rule of Constitutional Monarchy"

I would have thought the language should read as "the government has the responsibility to obligate/assure the citizens to live under the rule of the Constitutional Monarchy."

To "enable" someone means to give one the power to do something. Exercise of that power would be discretionary and not mandatory. Such a literary nuances would be important to the Malay-Thais in the South whose cultural heritage was living under the rule of an Islamic Sultan.

[Arkady]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Where does it say anything about "giving" citizenship? I t only talks "enable the citizen to live under...."

It's about the standard clauses in the constitution defining rights and obligations of citizens, not about how becomes a citizen and who doesn't. That would involve amending the Nationality Act which is not being discussed.

[dyertribe]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

No, they fought for about five hours and Thais were killed.

Thailand is listed as an "axis" country during ww2, same as Germany, Italy, etc.

[Kooweerup]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

No, they fought for about five hours and Thais were killed.

Then what, the clock struck 12 and it was down arms/tools for lunch. they never miss a meal break no matter what the situation.

[noitom]

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This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

The Thais fired a few shots at Prachuap Khiri Khan on the morning of December 8, but quickly caved in an laid down arms at the command of Thai leader Pibhun Songkhram. Despite the fact that Thailand had its air force base near Prachuap and an army of 26,000 plus, Thailand soon after the Japanese invasion of Thailand declared war on the US and the UK on January 25, 1942 and colluded with the Japanese to transport arms, munitions, troops to build the death railway and to further invade Malaysia from Songhla and Pattani. The Japanese dropped one bomb on Bangkok, but bargained their way with the Japanese to avoid further shelling.

[Alwyn]

This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

No, they fought for about five hours and Thais were killed.

Then what, the clock struck 12 and it was down arms/tools for lunch. they never miss a meal break no matter what the situation.

You got a point there!!

[Alwyn]

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This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

The Thais fired a few shots at Prachuap Khiri Khan on the morning of December 8, but quickly caved in an laid down arms at the command of Thai leader Pibhun Songkhram. Despite the fact that Thailand had its air force base near Prachuap and an army of 26,000 plus, Thailand soon after the Japanese invasion of Thailand declared war on the US and the UK on January 25, 1942 and colluded with the Japanese to transport arms, munitions, troops to build the death railway and to further invade Malaysia from Songhla and Pattani. The Japanese dropped one bomb on Bangkok, but bargained their way with the Japanese to avoid further shelling.

Nice one, very interesting, thanks for sharing! Sweden did much the same as I recall which is why Norwegians are not so fond of the Swedes!

[kriswillems]

I don't understand anything about the first post? What is it about? Does anyone have the same feeling?

[chainarong]

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This is a good start. This could give citizenship to some of the Thais that lost there citizenship after WW II, because of the British and French not recognizing Thailand as a country that fought against Japanese occupation. Many of the Thai in the Shan state of Myanmar lost there Thai citizenship, so did many Thais living in western Cambodia.

Didn't the Thais acquiesce to the Japanese without a shot being fired?

Yes and you may ask the question what happened to the prime minister of that time, he disappeared mysteriously