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Ja New lodges complaint to police demanding legal action against his captors

BANGKOK: -- Thammasat student activist Sirawich Seritiwat or Ja New filed a complaint with Klong Luang district police today (Monday) demanding the police to take legal action a group of unknown military personnel for illegally detaining him and depriving him of freedom.


Ja New also handed over to the police a copy of the video footage purportedly showing him being taken and forced into a car by hooded men believed to be military personnel. The incident took place in front of Thammasat University’s Rangsit campus on the night of January 20.

Ja New told the police that, at least, his captors should have shown him the arrest warrant and should have immediately taken him to the police station. However, he said he would driven around in the car for several hours before being taken to the police station.

He suggested that his arrest by the military men amounted to illegal detention. He also insisted that during his brief detention he was struck in his head and back three times.

Pol Col Manas Nakhonsri, the enquiry officer, said that military officers from the Second Battalion of the Second Regiment of the Royal Guards had already approached him and claimed that Ja Jew’s captors acted on order issued under Section 44 of the interim constitution.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/148075

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-- Thai PBS 2016-01-26

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I need some assistance from more knowledgeable members to get this sorted out.

A Pol Col states he has been contacted by military officers claiming the detention was carried out under an order authorised by Art 44 but I thought the PM was the only one who can invoke 44 so are they saying the PM personally issued the detention order or is it a case of very loose interpretation of the law by some military personnel acting in a ' rogue ' fashion ?

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I need some assistance from more knowledgeable members to get this sorted out.

A Pol Col states he has been contacted by military officers claiming the detention was carried out under an order authorised by Art 44 but I thought the PM was the only one who can invoke 44 so are they saying the PM personally issued the detention order or is it a case of very loose interpretation of the law by some military personnel acting in a ' rogue ' fashion ?

Like everything in Thailand it's just made up as they go along.

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I need some assistance from more knowledgeable members to get this sorted out.

A Pol Col states he has been contacted by military officers claiming the detention was carried out under an order authorised by Art 44 but I thought the PM was the only one who can invoke 44 so are they saying the PM personally issued the detention order or is it a case of very loose interpretation of the law by some military personnel acting in a ' rogue ' fashion ?

Like everything in Thailand it's just made up as they go along.

Now everyone in the military has a section 44 big stick to abuse. Cant wait until they turn on each other!

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I need some assistance from more knowledgeable members to get this sorted out.

A Pol Col states he has been contacted by military officers claiming the detention was carried out under an order authorised by Art 44 but I thought the PM was the only one who can invoke 44 so are they saying the PM personally issued the detention order or is it a case of very loose interpretation of the law by some military personnel acting in a ' rogue ' fashion ?

I was thinking the same thing. So if he (uncle too) did give the order, and the military court let him go so then what? was it just a message to Ja and others? we can take you anytime anywhere?

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So many criticised Art 44 for giving one man absolute power and the potential for serious abuse and misuse despite assurances the PM would use it only when absolutely warranted.

If he's the only one who can use Art 44 where did the military personnel get the authority to detain from ?

Either the PM ordered it, directly or indirectly, or those involved took it upon themselves to act and are now claiming it was lawful under 44.

This article allows some serious power to be used and can't be allowed to be some cover all excuse.

The PM is either complicit in what happened or negligent in not ensuring it was made perfectly clear the authority is his alone.

I'd suggest this situation is a hard one for the PM etc to explain but I doubt they'll even bother.

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Ja New lodges complaint to police demanding legal action against his captors

Ja Jew’s captors acted on order issued under Section 44 of the interim constitution.

complaint is futile, Section 44 makes any illegal activity perfectly legal.

Complaint is indeed futile. Try getting those plods at Klong Luang off of their lazy corrupt <deleted> first.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Yep, Police has been bought by the current regime, good luck for the minority student crew.......

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Brave - you assume he is telling the truth and that his complaint isn't politically motivated. But of course, that assumption suits your agenda.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Yep, Police has been bought by the current regime, good luck for the minority student crew.......

Well the last regime had certainly bought them. So have they been bought with a better bid now or are they simply scared?

Whatever, they ain't exactly noted for their effectiveness, efficiency or professionalism.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Brave - you assume he is telling the truth and that his complaint isn't politically motivated. But of course, that assumption suits your agenda.

Do you think he is lying?

Do you think he is lying and that it is politically motivated?

Do you really not think that he is brave?

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Yep, Police has been bought by the current regime, good luck for the minority student crew.......

I don't know about bought, I think they're scared of them.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Brave - you assume he is telling the truth and that his complaint isn't politically motivated. But of course, that assumption suits your agenda.

Do you think he is lying?

Do you think he is lying and that it is politically motivated?

Do you really not think that he is brave?

1) yes

2) yes, yes

3) no

Thanks, no time wasting with that species.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Brave - you assume he is telling the truth and that his complaint isn't politically motivated. But of course, that assumption suits your agenda.

Do you think he is lying?

Do you think he is lying and that it is politically motivated?

Do you really not think that he is brave?

1) yes

2) yes, yes

3) no

Thanks, no time wasting with that species.

I very much doubt he is lying. But good to see that you continue to support the Junta. As long as you never ever talk about democracy, freedom of speech and assembly or about justice.

Because there is compelling evidence that since the coup all of that is out of the window. And a but Thaksin cannot possibly explain that away or make it justified.

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Brave of Ja New to file the complaint but the RTP has no jurisdiction over military actions.

This is particularly poignant as the RTP chain of command is first to the Minister of Justice appointed by the PM, then to PM Prayut who is also Chief of the NCPO that commands the military. In fact the military can direct or neutralize police actions as it sees fit.

But it is important for all detained to publicize abuses, if only to help Prayut maintain transparency in his reform of justice. wai2.gif

Brave - you assume he is telling the truth and that his complaint isn't politically motivated. But of course, that assumption suits your agenda.

Do you think he is lying?

Do you think he is lying and that it is politically motivated?

Do you really not think that he is brave?

1) yes

2) yes, yes

3) no

Thanks, no time wasting with that species.

why would he lie given the repercussions that the Thai military is known for including prisoners dying / committing suicide in their detention centers?

of course it is, really, politically motivated - motivated for the military to get out of politics and return sovereignty to the Thai people - but I think you got that one right by accident. coffee1.gif

Naturally you would not think it brave to stand up to an oppressive force as he has, because if you did acknowledge his bravery, then it would force you to examine your own lack thereof...

33% - failing grade... Better luck next time.

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