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Everyone seems to blame the Thai government for their failure to detect the fake but its OK for the British manufacturer to produce it and fool the purchaser. When McCormick comes out of jail he should be penniless. But of course thats not going to happen.

But they didn't pull them from use instantly. In fact they defended them. And I am sure they can explain the grossly inflated price.

It isn't just Thailand that got ripped off. Several other countries were victims as well including Irag and they paid around $35,000 per unit. Corruption is widesspread. The reason they kept using them...noone wanted to look like fools and admit their mistakes.

Everyone seems to blame the Thai government for their failure to detect the fake but its OK for the British manufacturer to produce it and fool the purchaser. When McCormick comes out of jail he should be penniless. But of course thats not going to happen.

The fad of mixing coke, cough syrup , and kraton leaves is popular in the south of thailand as is called 4x100 (si koon loy). It has been reported on for a few years now. The addition of DEET to the mix is something I have never heard of. I can understand wanting to ingest coke, cough syrup, and kraton leaves for a high ( all 3 are used daily throughout the world for that) but who in their right mind would think to add DEET to the mix. DEET has no other use but to cause harm. It has never been used in any form to be consumed. I could see a cocktail being called "antifreeze" or "deet" but surely the consumer of these drinks doesn't think there is actual antifreeze or deet in their drinks. Who in their right mind would knowingly consume such poison? Who in their right mind would serve up such a drink?

I remember a long time ago there was a big scandal in Austria. They were adding Glycol ( andyfreece) to their wine to sweeten it.

From the information provided it sounds like it is all words, no action. What does going 'green' actually mean in this case?

70,000 factories converted to green manufacturing over the next 2 years? Sounds like a case of if the factory puts up a banner and logo saying 'we are green' then they are green.

There does not seem to be any compulsory legislation or requirements, just requests to be more green in the 5 step process . There is step 3, the ISO 14000, but who will be providing certification and checks here?

Green to me means environmentally conscious, reducing pollution and waste, developing clean methods of production. Perhaps there is legislation and rules being applied that are not reported here?

Sounds like the minister wants to justify his position by making these statements. No concrete plans to improve anything.

I'm also interested in buying a new car in Thailand and the Almera is high on my list. A deal maker for me is the lenght of delivery time as I'm out of the country for 6 month and when I arrive in October, don't want to wait too long. My 2000 Toyota Soluna still drives strong but just want the new car.

Can anyone tell me if the delivery time is the same at every dealer or is it better up north.

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

A pickup is not an obtion ......the small parking stalls at BIG C make life difficult. When I see people with pickups struggle when parking at these places I am glad to have a small vehicle.

I think you guys are right. Supercharger not available on the 1.2 engine in Thailand. Here I thought I found a car that will work for me....ecconomy and when required extra power. Now I'm back to square one trying to find a car that gives me good fuel ecconomy, adequate power and less then 750,000 bts.

I may consider a factory dual fuel car. Also very important, I need a short waiting period as I'm out of the country and want drive it soon after I get back to Thailand. My 2000 Soluna still runs great but just want to get something new.

BTW how do you like your Almera ? How does it drive on the highway ?

The Almera is fine for what it is and it's great value for money.

I've been spoilt driving some very nice cars, so in terms of driving experience, the Almera isn't a car i itch to drive. It's average in just about every regard. Average, but not below par, so i'm never driving it thinking i wish it did this, or i wish it did that. On the highway it will easily cruise at 120 or 130, but probably it's more comfortable at around 100. Top speed though for me isn't such an issue, more interested in acceleration, and in this regard, it is fine. Hope that helps.

Thanks for sharing your Almera driving experience. I am also used to driving more powerfull cars here in Canada but when in Thailand I am driving a 12 year old Toyota Soluna 1500 CC and it is still quick for city driving. I don't drive much over 100 km/hr on the highway but my biggest concern is being able to pass safely the big trucks on a nondivided road. I don't like being stuck behind a smoke belging trucks going 70 kph.

Most of my driving is in the city so The Almera is still high on my list.

Does anyone know the aprox. delivery period for the Almera. I know Honda Jazz is 3 month.

The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

Strange. Wasn't available a few months ago when i bought one.

I think you guys are right. Supercharger not available on the 1.2 engine in Thailand. Here I thought I found a car that will work for me....ecconomy and when required extra power. Now I'm back to square one trying to find a car that gives me good fuel ecconomy, adequate power and less then 750,000 bts.

I may consider a factory dual fuel car. Also very important, I need a short waiting period as I'm out of the country and want drive it soon after I get back to Thailand. My 2000 Soluna still runs great but just want to get something new.

BTW how do you like your Almera ? How does it drive on the highway ?

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

Umm in which country do Nissan do an Almera 1.2 with a supercharger????

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The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

The car comes with a 1.2 ltr motor but with supercharger performs similar to a 1.5 ltr motor.

Would like to know if the extra demand on the engine shortens engine life.

For sale by owner means not for sale by a company. Hot hard to figure out.

I think its best you head back to the UK where you can bye cheap cars.

Aside from the awfull crime, we also have a few racists in this forum.

Hi, there's a big difference between an Eco-car rating and real-world result. The British site What Car? recently published a study about the differences between manufacturer claims and actual results. A 20km/l-rated car won't achieve that in stop-start traffic, for example. The Mitzu Mirage at 22km/l or the Nissan March and Almera at 20km/l will probably remain the pick of the bunch for a while longer this year.

For really cheap motoring, LPG is only avalible retro-fitted in Thailand and actually makes the car less efficient, it's just the fuel is cheaper - typically ฿1/km vs almost ฿3/km on benzine. Any car can be converted to LPG for ฿25,000+ but you should be aware that the price of the fuel is gradually being floated in Thailand so this will affect the rate of savings. An Almera running on LPG would be fine for 150,000km and save you ฿300,000+ at current prices.

For CNG, right at the top of your budget would be the Toyota CNG Altis but your savings would depend on where you drive, the availability of the fuel. I think LPG is a better fuel than NGV; cars are only sold with factory-fitted NGV systems because of previous government policies to support and promote the fuel. NGV has limited avaliability in Thailand and a tank will run only 100-150km vs 400+km on LPG.

Exact savings aren't easy to calculate on either fuel; both systems require you to start the car on benzine and run for around 3km before switching so its not an ideal solution if you do many short trips, or less than 20,000km annually as some of the maintenance is dependent on time rather than distance. there will be many times when you run out and can't refill so drive on benzine, and some of your savings will have to be used for the additional maintenance of the gas system.

Though decision to make. Anstead a eco car I may consider a larger heavier car and spend an extra 40,000 bts on LPG conversion but need to make sure I won't lose the warranty.

I will be in the market for a new energy efficient car in a few month. Ego car such as the Nissan Almera or a car with factory installed NGV or if available LPG.

I'm prepared to go as high as 750,000 bts. Anyone have any suggestions ?

Has anyone test driven the new 2012 Nissan Almera. It looks like a good runner and specs look good too. Anyone know the waiting time. I,m out of the country for a few month but am in the market for a new small car when I return .