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My advice to you would be to join gayromeo.com and look at the area for sub-central Thailand.

That area has (today) 303 members with currently 10 on-line.

There are 19 members in Singburi; 10 in Ang Thong; 28 in Lop Buri and 3 in Chai Nat. Send those guys a message and ask them where you can go in the area to meet other gay guys.

I am not fond of gay tourism (generally, with specific exceptions of course) because of the behaviour of many gay tourists, if you must know.

I am complaining that those people who appear publicly in places where socialising with prostitutes is not publicly endorsed really do cause problems for those who don't, and most of those people who do are,

I have some sympathy for Ijustwannateach because the public behavior of some farang, be they tourist or resident, is not acceptable in Thai society, or indeed in any polite environment. In particular I am talking about public displays of affection – kissing, fondling, groping etc. (I must point out that a quick peck on the cheek or holding hands is NOT what I'm talking about).

I was in a pub a few weeks ago and a couple were there engaged in activities that frankly, would be more suitable for the bedroom or on the set of a porn movie. Prolonged deep kissing; hands down shirts and inside underwear, crotch groping etc. Over the years I have seen this from time to time in straight and gay establishments, in pubs, clubs and restaurants, even on the sky train; mainly between farang couples but occasionally with Thai/farang liaisons. Even in gogo bars it makes me feel uncomfortable - am I expected to watch; or do I turn to face the wall or leave the bar?

What are these people trying to prove? I have no objection to whatever activities they consensually want to engage in the privacy of a short-time room or a 5 star pad ... but in public I cringe.

As far as socializing with prostitutes in public establishments, I have no problem – indeed how am I to know what profession they are? Most Thai prostitutes I have known are usually unfailingly polite when sober – they may be badly educated and lack ambition but most are better behaved than their farang consorts.

It is even worse when people who are NOT gay tourists continue this kind of lifestyle in perpetuity as gay expats, but I have at least seen some of them escape that bubble.

Those of you in 'relationships' really should not preach to single guys as if you have a monopoly on morals and behavior. Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

In my experience it is those in relationships that are living the lie; not the confirmed single men. In over a decade of visiting innumerable bars and clubs all over Thailand I cannot think of one Thai/Farang relationship I have met that has been 100% faithful. I have met scores of Thais and Farangs who have asked me not to mention to their partners that I met them on the beach or in Babylon or DJ Station and have introduced the person that is the focus of their attention as 'just a friend'.

Single guys are not disadvantaged or socially inept. We cherish our freedom and independence and enjoy the sexual variety that these qualities of life allow. Furthermore, whether we have met our companion for the night in a gogo bar, a pub or on-line we know that our conscience is clear; that we have not cheated on our closest friend.

Prostitution is available the world over but in Thailand it is a real pleasure to partake in the breadth and depth of the experience. If it's not your cup of tea then don't go to those places that cater for it but please don't preach to those of us who enjoy it. We may know where your partner has been – but do you?

Furthermore, the presumptions about foreigners and their habits extends beyond the entertainment scene into daily life, because the kind of gay Thais going to real gay Thai venues are also the kind that you would meet working in real jobs in real life. And why would they want to hang out with the kind of people that everyone always sees going out with prostitutes?

Please can you give us the names of a few "real gay Thai venues" so that the wholesome and moral members of this board can experience them?

Khrap Omm :jap:

As far as I'm concerned it's ok to joke about all of them; established old Middle Eastern 'sacrifice the goat' religions will get little serious attention from me, whether they believe the 'Messiah' came 2000 years ago (Christians), or somewhat more recently (Muslims) or not yet (Jews).

That's whether or not homophobia is conveniently included; though, while I find that family of religions particularly obnoxious on its own; it is surprising to me how tenaciously gay people hold on even to belief sets that have typically socially condemned them. I suppose that's why the low castes in India haven't fully taken over yet.

If anyone wants to hear some erudite, thought provoking debates and talks on this subject I recommend going to You Tube and searching for the names:

Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Pat Condell

All of them are seriously good at debunking the myths and flimflam of the religious fanatics. Highly recommended.

Guys, to put your mind at rest, I am not going to take off anyone underage. I have a firm preference for men with hair they can sit on. The piece was meant to show that it is not only Christianity that needs to be lampooned.

Tombkk, indeed child abuse is not funny but it seems you have no problem joking about Judeo-Christian texts advocating slavery or murder.

Jingthing, my contribution to this thread is not off topic. Why is it OK to disparage and make jokes about the Bible's texts but not to broaden the debate to include Islam? It's the same God …

As an aside to this Biblical thread can I ask some questions about the world's most popular religion and its practical implementation in Gay Thailand.

I will soon move from Bangkok to Pattaya. In Bangkok one of my favorite haunts is the Tawan bar but there are no similar muscle men hang-outs in Pattaya. However, my farang friends in Pattaya enjoy a night out in Sunee Plaza where, reputation has it, there are some local lads of dubious age.

I am reminded of the story in the Holy Qur'an, of Aisha the favorite wife of the Prophet Muhammad, who was aged 6 when they were married and aged 9 when the consummation took place.

If I convert to Islam and follow the example of the Prophet, will I be absolved from sin if I visit Sunee Plaza?

Do I have to wait 3 years after 'offing' someone or can I do it all on the same night?

Depending on different texts, the Prophet Muhammad had 11 or 13 wives. I am not into group sex on this scale so, may I ask, will 2 or 3 a night be OK?

Feeling pleased with the verdict, Natee said those affected by social discrimination - not only those with gender diversity - had rights and could seek justice.

She added that the court's ruling was a positive sign and urged state offices to cease all forms of discrimination.

Whoops! She is a He

You'll have to take my word for it but you'd know about it if you had acute diarrhea.

There's nothing cute about diarrhea.

To sum up what I've found out:-

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Thai, Khmer (as in Isan), and Russian say 'finish'.

Sorry? ... most Thais I have met say 'Neung Phan Baht'

The Poseidon Hotel has closed? Or do I misread that?

Yes, you do misread that but to be fair it could have been written more clearly.

The Poseidon Hotel is still open but the lavish and very affordable breakfast / brunch that was catered by Casa Pascal has ceased.

The place that is closing at the end of the month is @Richards in Silom 2/1, Bangkok ... are you confusing the two places?

A lot of superstitious nonsense. Get a life.

Just my opinion

Take a look at www.bangkoklesbian.com

Mona Lisa was a gay man

and I've just seen Elvis coming out of Foodland.

........... Married lesbians are HOT.

You can get the DVD on Silom

How long will the Baht-Bus mafia allow this service to continue?

Who is that vision in purple and white?

Stay away from her ... she's mine.

I've quit my job in Bangkok and I'm flying to Phuket in the morning.

I'm in love.

A new bar had its opening last night in Soi 4. Called "Sugar Bowl" it's on the right side as you enter the Soi just before the Spanish restaurant. I did not go in but may try tonight.

Soi 4 was very, very busy last night with the main crowd being, as usual, between Balcony and Telephone. At 11pm we had difficulty getting a seat outside on the street and had to have our first drink at Bas bar before moving back to Telephone later.

For those of you that are 'into' chubbies, the Bearbie Bar next to Balcony had a lot of big guys going in there.

Anyone else noticed Ireland ran out of money when the Pope said condoms were okay?

Just a quick note to mention that I will stop posting (threads or posts) to the gay forum.

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20,000+ posts ... you need to get out more

... It is true not many gays in Thailand are very interested in this gay forum. ...

and why do you think that is?

Check who posts most often on this gay forum and delights in petty put downs of other opinions

Check who has dominated this thread with his own opinions and private spats

This is a forum for public debate NOT a private chat room and those few who still use it maybe, just maybe, would like to see a thread or two that does not have one individual's scribblings every other post.

Is there a mirror in your room?

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and to answer the question - Yes, but not so queenie.

I would like the gay forum to remain just that - The Forum for "Gay People in Thailand"

I see no need for any change and I don't want to be included with lesbians, bi-sexuals, transgendered, pre-op, post-op, katoey, alternative-left-handed-vegetarian-chicks-with-dicks-one-eyed-cross-dressing-whale-savers-with-premature-ejaculation-and-a-club-foot-dressed-like-a-freak-minority-group and I really wish that these fringe groups would stop pestering the gay community for "inclusion".

**** off and start your own group and stop tarnishing the gay community with your problems.

Just a thought ... the title of this post was "Same Sex Marriage Laws Around the Globe - Photos - Nations that have approved Gay Marriage"

Are any of you marrying kinds going to give us a look at your wedding photos? Show us confirmed bachelors what we are missing