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  1. Additionally, the ex-PM mentioned in the previous post who was removed from office for forgery and perjury is also banned from politics from his involvement as a Party Executive with Thaksin's proxy People Power Party. He awaits the final appeal on his previous conviction and prison sentence on another case as well as still facing a littany of other criminal cases in the process of adjudication.

    Get real with the "forgery and perjury", as though they wouldn't have been brushed off if Samak's case hadn't been scripted from the beginning.We're not half witted children.In any case I didn't say Samak wasn't a typical Thai politician:his dreadful record is well known.My point was that the judicial system can move very rapidly when directed to do so.

    I only put in the additional comment simply to set the record straight with the factual convictions involved, instead of the inaccurate "brushing it off" as an honorarium that you gave it.

    I'll avoid the rest of your comments as they seem to contravene the forum rule that bar criticizing the legal proceedings or judgments of any Thai court of law.

    But accepting the honararium was the offence in this case, and a judgement was made extraordinarily rapidly.I'm sure Samak and his defence team screwed up but the outcome was always pre-ordained.All this was widely discussed at the time in the Thai and English language press and on this forum.As I implied save your weasle words for the incurably naive.

    "your weasle words" ? :D

    "case... scripted from the beginning" :)

    the courts "move very rapidly when directed to do so" :D

    "outcome was pre-ordained" :D

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    You do have a way with words, eh? Sorry to have interjected. Have at it.

  2. Additionally, the ex-PM mentioned in the previous post who was removed from office for forgery and perjury is also banned from politics from his involvement as a Party Executive with Thaksin's proxy People Power Party. He awaits the final appeal on his previous conviction and prison sentence on another case as well as still facing a littany of other criminal cases in the process of adjudication.

    Get real with the "forgery and perjury", as though they wouldn't have been brushed off if Samak's case hadn't been scripted from the beginning.We're not half witted children.In any case I didn't say Samak wasn't a typical Thai politician:his dreadful record is well known.My point was that the judicial system can move very rapidly when directed to do so.

    I only put in the additional comment simply to set the record straight with the factual convictions involved, instead of the inaccurate "brushing it off" as an honorarium that you gave it.

    I'll avoid the rest of your comments as they seem to contravene the forum rule that bar criticizing the legal proceedings or judgments of any Thai court of law.

  3. Pheu Thai Party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said politicians of great influence and clout - not part of the government but belonging to coalition parties - were believed to have been involved in the case.

    Meanwhile, Jatuporn Promphan, a Pheu Thai MP and leader of the red-shirt movement, yesterday called on police to use the tape that recorded Suthep's speech in Parliament that linked the "Group of 16"

    Prompong and Jatuporn missed mentioning that over half (10 of 16) of the Group of 16 are politicians associated with Thaksin and are banned from politics as Party Executives with either Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai Party (Chamlong Krutkhunthod, Thani Yisarn, Newin Chidchob, Suchart Tancharoen, Pairoj Suwannachawee, Sora-at Klinprathumor, and Sonthaya Khunpluem) or with their Pheu Thai Party's precursor, Thaksin's proxy People Power Party (Sompong Amornwiwat, Itthi Sirilatthayakorn, and Songsak Thongsri).

    Additionally, the ex-PM mentioned in the previous post who was removed from office for forgery and perjury is also banned from politics from his involvement as a Party Executive with Thaksin's proxy People Power Party. He awaits the final appeal on his previous conviction and prison sentence on another case as well as still facing a littany of other criminal cases in the process of adjudication.

  4. Additional information on the firing of Police Major-General Permsak the other day:

    The disciplinary committee also acted to dismiss Udon Thani provincial police commissioner Pol Maj-Gen Permsak Paradonsak from service, in a separate incident, for failing to stop the Red Shirt protesters of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) from attacking PAD protesters who were protesting in Udon on July 24 last year, injuring several dozen protesters.

    The disciplinary committee's decision came after the NACC found that he had committed a grave disciplinary offence for failing to prevent the clash between the two rival groups of protesters.

    Gen Priewpan said that based on the NACC rulings there are only two disciplinary options for the national police bureau to bring against for the two commissioners, dismissal with benefits or dismissal without benefits.

    The ‘softest’ action the board can take is dismissal with benefits, said Gen Priewpan, as the board recognised they had done their best to control their respective situations.

    The committee decisions were also made in comparison with the punishment meted out against ex-police chief Pol Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan on his role in the October 7 incident.

    Gen Priewpan said that the meeting resolutions will be forwarded to acting national police chief Pol Gen Patheep Tanprasert for his endorsement.

    If the two officers feel that they have been treated unfairly, said the deputy police chief, they can file complaints at the Criminal and Administrative Courts.

    Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva signed the dismissal order for Gen Patcharawat retroactively on October 16 although he retired on October 1, as suggested by a joint meeting of the Office of the Council of State, the Prime Minister's Office, the Office of the Police Commission and the Office of the Civil Service Commission (OCSC). (TNA)

    http://enews.mcot.net/view.php?id=12533&t=2

  5. quote: 'webfact' date='2009-11-01'

    Ten senior cops moved to inactive

    By The Nation on Sunday

    Published on November 1, 2009

    Ten senior policemen, including a major-general in a metropolitan precinct, were yesterday transferred to inactive posts after a raid on Friday by an anti-vice task force on a gambling den which has long operated in their jurisdiction.

    Pol Maj-General Witthaya Rattanawit, chief of Metropolitan Police Division 6, is the most senior of the 10 officers

    unquote

    A "crackdown" on "senior cops" seems to be in effect, which is a good thing, given their propensity for shady stuff.

    Just a few days ago, there were two very senior cops who didn't get moved to inactive posts, but were instead, outright fired from the police force...albeit for cases involving wanton violence and not for running a gambling den.

    OCTOBER 7 CRACKDOWN

    Somchai, Chavalit and Patcharawat to face criminal charges

    By The Nation

    National anti-graft commission will file criminal charges against ex-Premier Somchai Wongsawat, ex-deputy PM Gen Chavalit Yongchaiyudh and Police Chief Pol Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan for their involvement in the October 7 crackdown on yellow shirted protesters.

    The NACC also decided to seek both criminal and disciplinary actions against then Metropolitan police chief Pol Lt Gen Suchart Meunkaew.

    Police Lt-Gen Suchart Muankaew was fired from the police force yesterday. Police Chief Patchawat was fired from his position in the police force as well earlier.

    So now we await the disciplinary/criminal action against the others involved, namely ex-PM Somchai and ex-Deputy PM Chavalit.

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=3107279

    Authorities face disciplinary probe over Udon Thani clashes

    The Police Chief, the provincial Governor, and three senior officers from Udon Thani face a disciplinary probe after the National Anti-Corruption Commission said in a report Wednesday that it suspected foul play in the clash between red and yellow shirts last July.

    The NACC has found cause to suspect serious violations involving provincial Police Chief Major-General Permsak Paradonsak, NACC member Klanarong Chantik said.

    Police Major-General Permsak Paradonsak was fired from the police force yesterday for his involvement in this mayhem.

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=3107369

  6. Authorities face disciplinary probe over Udon Thani clashes

    The Police Chief, the provincial Governor, and three senior officers from Udon Thani face a disciplinary probe after the National Anti-Corruption Commission said in a report Wednesday that it suspected foul play in the clash between red and yellow shirts last July.

    The NACC has found cause to suspect serious violations involving provincial Police Chief Major-General Permsak Paradonsak, NACC member Klanarong Chantik said.

    Police Major-General Permsak Paradonsak was fired from the police force yesterday for his involvement in this mayhem.

  7. Thaksin says he will visit: sources

    The Phnom Penh Post, 29 October 2009

    DEPOSED Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has told supporters he plans to travel to Cambodia, a Thai opposition source and media reports said Wednesday.

    Speaking to members of the Puea Thai Party – known as the Red Shirts – by video conference Tuesday, Thaksin announced plans to travel to Cambodia following an invitation from Prime Minister Hun Sen to serve as his economic adviser, said a woman identified as a Puea Thai member, but who refused to give her name.

    “Thaksin said he would fly to Cambodia soon to thank Hun Sen,” the Bangkok Post quoted another anonymous Puea Thai official as saying.

    Bangkok says it would seek extradition if Thaksin – ousted in a 2006 coup and self-exiled to avoid jail on corruption charges – sought refuge in Cambodia.

    Foreign Ministry spokesman Koy Kuong said the government has had no official communication with Thaksin recently, but that a visit to Cambodia was plausible. “I think it could be true, because so far, Prime Minister Hun Sen has given the green light to [Thaksin],” Koy Kuong said.

    The source said, however, that Puea Thai was unsure such a visit would be prudent.

    “We don’t agree with the idea of Thaksin going to Cambodia.… He’s caused so much trouble for the country recently that he needs to fix before he goes to Cambodia,” she said.

    http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/200...it-sources.html

  8. Seems that Hun Sen is competing with Thaksin for that Laughing Stock Award:

    Excerpt from Los Angeles Times article, dated October 24, 2009, on the ASEAN Summit:

    One example is the split between Cambodia's prime minister, former Khmer Rouge commander Hun Sen, and Abhisit, an Oxford-educated economist born in England.

    Before arriving at the summit Friday, Hun Sen, the longest-serving leader of an ASEAN nation, sent an unmistakable salvo Abhisit's way by offering political asylum to Thailand's fugitive former prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra.

    Hun Sen called Thaksin his "eternal friend" and compared him to Myanmar's Nobel Peace Prize winner, Aung San Suu Kyi.

  9. There's been an update on this case:

    Toronto man who got HIV from former stripper wife wants her deported

    By TOM GODFREY, Sun Media, Edmonton Sun, 24th October 2009

    A Toronto man who contracted HIV from his former stripper wife is hoping he’s alive to see her get deported to Thailand.

    “I am not going to give up my fight,” Percy Whiteman said of his ex, Suwalee Iamkhong. “My life is not a game for anyone to play with.”

    Whiteman and his lawyer appeared before a Federal Court of Canada last Thursday in an ongoing battle with immigration officials to get Iamkhong deported due to her criminal record. The case was remanded until Jan. 4.

    He has launched a $30-million lawsuit against the Canada Border Services Agency and Zanzibar Strip Club in Toronto in connection with the case.

    He claims Iamkhong, 40, a former stripper at the Zanzibar, was allowed into the country with HIV and that led to his life being placed in jeopardy. Lawyers for the government are trying to have the case thrown out.

    “I am the one who’s suffering with HIV,” Whiteman said. “My life is on the line and nothing has happened to her.”

    The pair were married from 1997 to 2004, when she told him that she had HIV.

    Iamkhong arrived in Canada in 1995 and danced at the Zanzibar until 2004. Before that, she had worked as a prostitute in Thailand.

    A manager from Zanzibar said today he was not aware of the lawsuit, adding it may have been before his time there.

    Iamkhong was sentenced in August, 2007 to two years in jail after being convicted of criminal negligence causing bodily harm for infecting Whiteman.

    Iamkhong appealed her sentence and it was reduced to two years less a day, allowing her to appeal the deportation order.

    “There are a lot of people advising her on how to use the system,” he said. “She has hurt a lot of people, just look what she has done to me.”

    Whiteman’s lawyer Maurice Benzaquen said Iamkhong’s disease should have been detected by immigration officials in medical checks required to come to Canada.

    Benzaquen said the Ontario government should also have records of her AIDS tests.

    “My client wants his day in court,” he said. “The government is trying to deprive him of his day in court.”

    Whiteman sponsored Iamkhong into Canada and under immigration laws is financially responsible for her until 2011.

  10. There's an update on this case:

    Guilty plea in immigration fraud case

    SEATTLE, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- A 44-year-old woman who owns a chain of Thai restaurants in the Seattle area has pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy to commit immigration fraud.

    Varee Bradford, owner of five Thai Ginger restaurants, pleaded guilty in federal court to charges she paid restaurant employees to marry her Thai relatives so the foreigners could legally stay in the United States, The Seattle Times reported Friday.

    Bradford also pleaded guilty to three counts of fraud relating to immigration documents.

    Bradford was accused of orchestrating four marriages between 2001 and 2007 involving her Thai relatives and Thai Ginger employees.

    Authorities allege the employees, who were all U.S. citizens, were paid as much as $20,000 to agree to the marriages.

    A tip nearly three years ago led Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials to begin investigating the marriages, leading to Bradford's arrest in June.

    The Times said Bradford is to be sentenced Jan. 22 and is facing as much as five years in prison.

  11. I go to Howard (or Mr. Miller as he prefers) Because he is the head of the TVPs. Just like the press go to the PM if any of his MP's or heads of government organisations do wrong.

    In most organisations, when a public figure does something wrong, immoral or illegal they resign to protect the integrity of the organisation, or if they are stubborn they are sacked.

    If this doesnt happen, then the there is usually a public outcry and someone (usually the head of that organisation) comes out to explain why. That is all im asking for, some answers.

    If you google 'Thai volunter police" or in pattaya news do a search for "Thai volunteer police" you will see this:

    WOMAN FORCED TO HAVE SEX WITH FORMER VOLUNTEER POLICE

    NORWEGIAN VOLUNTEER POLICE ARRESTED IN PATTAYA FOR DRUGS DEALING

    LADY BOYS ACCUSE PATTAYA FOREIGN POLICE VOLUNTEER OF ASSAULT

    PATTAYA VOLUNTEER POLICE BEAT UP DRUNKEN MAN AFTER HE ATTACKS AN ...

    VOLUNTEER POLICEMAN CAUGHT IN PATTAYA WITH ILLEGAL PISTOL ...

    Surely to reassure tourists and to clear the air, the head of the volunteer police should clarify the situation and inform us if these abusers of power have been kicked out of the force??? If not why not. Selective responses indicate a cover up.

    Thank you for those links and also for your persistent chase after the elusive answers.

    There's also a whole host of other threads here on Thaivisa if one does a search related to the Pattaya TPV, such as being used as "John's" to catch foreign prostitutes (arresting them AFTER sex, not after negotiating for said sex, as is done by police the world over). There's also threads about them working as undercover drug buyers. Also, there's a huge selection of threads with questions regarding work permits and qualifications that like this thread went unanswered.

    It's a shame that Bravo channel didn't pursue any of these highly tainted aspects of the TPV because that's likely the only way we'll ever hear answers.

  12. Hoo & Ho (I just love those names :) ) are facing 25 years in Long Bay Jail, or worse.

    Today, they ended up with 14 years and 10 years.

    Man found guilty in sex slave case

    The Age/October 16, 2009

    A man sentenced to 14 years' jail for possessing five Thai women as slaves to work in South Melbourne brothels was yesterday convicted of using a sixth woman as part of the scheme.

    Kam Tin Ho, 40, was the Melbourne architect of the enterprise, which brought the women to Australia to work in brothels in 2003 and 2004. Five of the six had previously been prostitutes.

    The women were kept in houses in Mount Waverley, Ashburton and North Fitzroy and rarely let out unsupervised. Their passports were seized and they had to service 650 to 750 clients to repay debts of up to $94,000 for their passage, and to send money to their families.

    After a 10-week trial in the Supreme Court, Justice Philip Cummins last month sentenced Kam Tin Ho to 14 years' jail, with a minimum of 11 years, for 10 offences including five of possessing a slave and four of trying to conceal cash transfers to the women's families in Thailand.

    His brother Ho Kam Ho, 39, will serve 10 years' jail with a minimum of seven after being convicted of three counts of exercising power over slaves and one of entering into a commercial transaction involving a slave.

    Two other men, Chee Fui Hoo, 42, and Slamet Edy Rahardjo, 53, were found not guilty of related charges. A suppression order, expiring yesterday, prevented earlier reporting of the brothers' sentences.

    Justice Cummins said they had controlled the vulnerable women with ''the ever-present shadow of a minder under the veneer of a helper'', describing the scheme as ''modern slavery, not with physical chains but with mental chains''.

    Kam Tin Ho showed little emotion as a Supreme Court jury found him guilty of using the sixth woman as a slave, but not guilty of possessing her, following a week-long trial before Justice Lex Lasry.

    Sarisa Leech, 37, became tearful as she was convicted of possessing and using the woman as a slave. The court heard she had bought the woman in Thailand, arranged travel to Australia and lived with her to control her movements.

    All six women received $5 of the $125 charged by the brothels for each client they serviced while fulfilling their contracts.

    In the first trial, John Dickinson, for Kam Tin Ho, said: ''A harsh, exploitative contract - and I'm not saying this was - would not qualify as leading to a condition of slavery.''

    Justice Lasry will hear pre-sentence submissions on October 22.

  13. Hundreds of red-shirt protesters attacked Abhisit's Mercedes and Niphon's BMW while they were leaving the compound.

    The attack was the worst incident Niphon had ever encountered. He even thought for a moment he might die because of the damage to the car and his own injury.

    I read they arrested a red-shirter today for the attack on Niphon and faces assault charges.

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