saakura

3 hours ago, gettingby said:

Just checking assumptions here (not overtly meant to editorialise or complain).  I would appreciate any input that contradicts, confirms, or ads insight.  I am just trying to plan for the next couple of years especially as I will be out of the country for extended periods and might not be able to immediately jump and flyback to show up for a call to an MOI interview.

 

I received notification that my application was accepted from Santiban for consideration from MOI on May 1 2023.  After reading the latest few pages in this thread I first congratulate those who recently received citizenship.  It is indeed a long and tiring process.

 

Second, am inclined to believe that :

 

1.  that currently the MOI is still processing and inviting for applicants from 2019 or perhaps 2020 (the year the MOI accepyed these applicants for final processing)

 

2.  the only naturalization annoucements that have gone forward likely with Anupongs old signature and to date nothing has gone anywhere requiring Anutin's signature

 

3.  It appears to be a safe expectation that given the current government, political situation, and political priorites, one can expect to wait 4-6 years for being called in for a MOI interview from the date of the letter notifying MOI has accepted your case from Santiban.  

 

4.  Even so, things have been changing for a while and it may take longer as the MOI looks to replace Sanitban (with DOPA) in the process entirely and there seems no urgency to set and issue new procedures and regulations, much less what to do with applications that have already been vetted by Santiban and the NIA.

 

5.  From the above posts, it feels like DOPA and district officials are already trying to insert themselves in the normal processing such as the "back end" final processes of getting your new national identity documents by adding on their own new internal ad hoc regulations and "needs" for addition documents or signed physical copies (which are already approved in the system and approved by everyone including the Royal Household).  And (like I experienced in getting my PR,  which was certainly not a "welcome to Thailand interview" feeling but rather a show of personal power) they seem to be requiring eyeballing each person and even interviewing that person again (after approval has been announced in the Royal Gazette).

 

6.  This raises a lot of process questions at the least but also begs the question if the district officer doesnt like someone because of the way they look or how they interviewed - imagine if after all the processes, after 20+ years as one above poster asserted, sitting and waiting for a district officer to take an extra hour or two at lunch time and then being asked to sing the royal or national anthem on demand to the district officer and an applicant gets irritated and shows it.  Can the district officer then undo an approval? 

 

7.  In sum, does it seem reasonable that I should realistically expect to be called in for the MOI interview  no earlier than 2026?  This would be also assuming that processing is somehow going on at all right now and that things might get more efficient in second half of 2024.

I will answer No.7 only. Under the present circumstances and the speed at which it is moving, it will be a miracle if you get called even in 2026. I am one of those waiting since 2020 and there are some before me too.

5 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Too much sex , drugs , and rock n roll ...?

Ladyboys, penury, excessive alcohol, cheated by girlfriend...?

On 5/28/2024 at 5:11 PM, Maybole said:

10 days, but I was looking for a per diem figure. I believe she will be occupied with educational activities most of the time with a day or two free at the end. Thank for such a quick response.

About 100 pounds per day would be very nice for a teenage girl, they like buying stuff.

Maybe too many bottles of Chang 🤔

Karen!!!!

@Marcati Congratulations, and hope all goes well with the final process. I had my NIA interview and all documents were sent to MOI in 2020, so hopefully in 2rys time I will get lucky. I am planning to retire in 2026, so it is really worrying.

On 2/24/2024 at 5:36 PM, DrJoy said:

@saakura Any good news ?

Sorry late reply. No news at all 😔

10 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

No prejudice, just wondering.

So is the bride pictured a former male?

 

I think the groom is a girl

11 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

The Welsh have a saying, when translated , says the male donkey will go to the female donkey.

So no LGBTQ donkeys 🤤

1 minute ago, eyeman said:

It doesn't work.

 

The parents pays the fees and every kid gets a report card with 80-100% score.

In the UK, parents do not pay fees?

On 12/14/2023 at 7:03 AM, steven100 said:

The article doesn't say too much,  suspected foul play as TIT.?

Or could be an alcoholic with no money left as TIT?

13 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Yes, I'm sure Koreans and Japanese are willing to pay more without complaint and of course they have smaller genitalia.

2-  a false sense of superiority

12 hours ago, 2baht said:

Let go, this is Thailand!

Let go, just another crazed idiot in Pattaya.

Lamphun? ????

"The banks include Thai Military Bank, Bank of Ayudhya, CIMB Thai Bank, and Bangkok Bank." 

I thought that the Thai Military Bank changed to TMB over about 15 years ago and then merged with another bank many years ago to become TTB?

I have recently helped a few foreigners in a similar situation (wanting the lowest cost funeral). Where the actual death happened at the hospital where the person was rushed to at the end stage, a death certificate was easily issued, and on the basis of this, a police clearance was issued. Where the foreigner had died at home, the police came for a routine enquiry and spoke to the neighbours and concluded that there were no suspicious circumtances and the autopsy was waived and police clearance issued.

At the administrative office of local temple, we informed them of our requirement for low cost funeral and submitted the originals + copy of police clearance. For a sum of 11,000 Baht, a few monks chanted prayers for 10 minutes and the body was cremated thereafter. An official cremation certificate was issued.

Next day we collected the ashes/bones in a ziplock bag and immersed it in the river. Last bit was going to the embassy with police clearance + cremation certificate to get the passport cancelled. Pension was automatically stopped on passport cancellation. This was at a temple somewhere in Onnut Road in Bangkok.

On 6/25/2023 at 12:01 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Oh... here we go...    this one's an absolute lightening rod to a the Brit-hating bigots.... 

 

I'll start... Why is always the British Causing Problems ?

 

 

I reckon his phone charger caught fire, he used his fire-extinguisher, distinguished the fire thus preventing the spread of flames and protecting numerous residents of the hotel...  the damage was caused by the power of the extinguisher...    the guys a hero !!!!....    

 

 

Oh... can we have a 'quality family destination comment' too pls.... 

Perhaps also a 'good guys in bad guys out'... 

... a few 'deport him' comments wouldn't go a miss... 

... ah yearh.. 'a few years in the hilton will learn him' !!!!

 

 

 

I don't know what I'm more cynical of... the frequency of my countrymen behaving in this utterly chavy-trashy-low-class manner... or the obvious comments such actions draw... 

 

 

Why is always the British Causing Problems ?

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Let's face it 99% of the ladies from SE Asia with a foreigners boyfriends are in for the money and a residency chances abroad thus bringing the rest of the family with them, and if it wasn't clear to you already, well, know you know.

What are a vast majority of older western men in SE for? A better life!

I invest in (unsecured) debentures or bonds. Period is generally 2 to 4 years. Depending on the risk rating of the issuing company, the interest rates are 3% to 7.5%. New issues are published daily on www.thaibma.or.th if you are able to read thai script.

4 hours ago, DrJoy said:

Yes its the MOI interview.

 

They are inviting 2020 applicants now, so you maybe called as stated by your SB Officer.

 

The usual wait time from NIA to MOI interview is 18 months but it varies considerably for many applicants.

 

Standard wait times include 18 - 30 months

 

 

Getting worried in case the documents go missing somewhere. It will be too much of a pain to start all over again -

 

Thats not the case, all the documents are handled responsibly by the SB Police, NIA, MOI.

 

I have never heard that the Ministry lost documents of a particular applicant, So dont worry in this regard.

 

 

Thank you @Dr. Joy, this is really comforting!

I took a walk on a few roads during the last 4 days (Thonglor, Ekamai, Onnut, around Phra Khanong). There were some groups on open pickup trucks and outside shophouses with water hoses and guns, but no one bothered me when they saw me dressed in smart casual clothes with leather shoes.

On 4/13/2023 at 10:05 PM, DrJoy said:

Another Thai nationality Interview was held on 30-MAR-2023

 

17 Ladies

44 Men

 

March turned out better for the applicants. 2 interviews in a month.

I assume that the 'Thai Nationality interview' you have referred to is the MOI big committee interview. Any idea when this batch would have completed the NIA interview and had their documents submitted by the SB to MOI? 

I had my NIA interview in September 2020 and got a confirmation from my SB case handler that all documents were sent to MOI in October 2020. I am still waiting for the MOI interview call. The SB case handler told me to expect it by end of 2023 or early 2024. Seems abnormally long to me. Although I am in a stable job with a PR and not in a hurry, getting worried in case the documents go missing somewhere. It will be too much of a pain to start all over again.

13 hours ago, Gknrd said:

Idiot's, Thai police work with the opium and heroin dealers.  Stay clear of illegal drugs in Thailand.

In my opinion, you should stay clear of illegal drugs (and any other illegal actions) anywhere in the world and not just in Thailand.

Tories are coming here?