nickynomatesbkk

Just giving the good a bad name and another excuses to hate us

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Yes hopefully they can find the truth and just maybe stop this happening to others

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Yes tempers are getting shorter all around. And when they go they go

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Im already working on a free Jeff Savage campaign.

We are planning a concert after he has been locked up for 20 years.

The government and yellow shirts can do no wrong they have not made a singlr error of judgement throughout this whole ordeal. The ten year old was on the most wanted list in Thailand and had to be taken out.

It's very sad that posters like yourself can treat what is currently happening as something to joke about. This is an extremely serious situation and the repercussions could affect all of us here adversely, Thai and farang alike. Please try to think about that before posting nonsense

Agree Please think before you post many people are losing loved ones today.

I believe nothing anymore that is feed to me by the media here including this site.

Getting back to the actual video

The guy in the plastic English police hat is priceless.

I can just see the Advert.

Camping out with your red mates for 2 weeks + 600 THB per day.

Shutting major hotels and shopping malls down 20 Billion THB per day.

Loss of tourism and confidence in Thailand unknown and unaccountable.

Wearing a plastic English police hat on international Television in front of millions while rescuing your mate PRICELESS.

Just to get this into some very basic context.

The Northeast is getting worse with basic living standards

Water levels are a disaster, staple rice growing people depend on to survive day to day is being hurt real bad, hel_l they even have plague of bugs killing what is left.

Many of these people have nothing.

The government is more concerned that Somchai can't drive into Silom in his BMW to trade

When basic food and water are on the line anything can happen.

I for one have big fears of how this will end.

I will arrive Bangkok on 3/April.

Do you think that will be safe to stay 2/3 days in Bangkok?

I want to walk arround the Grand Palace and surrounding areas!

Or do you think that i should go to Phuket, Krabi, etc, right after i arrive Bangkok?

thanks in advance

Daniel

from Portugal

You will be fine

Just enjoy your time here and stay away from large crowds.

80,000

No expert here but it looks far more than that.

So here is a question.

What happens if one person says at the front of all this i got a good idea lets all go to the airport.

Lemmings springs to mind.

I know world record for lemmings

Or reddings if there is such a word and you get my drift.

Just regarding numbers.....

there are approx 130,000 registered cabs in Bangkok.....around 75-80,000 in action every day supposedly.

Each has on average 1.X drivers, as some driver 18 hour days, others share the cab with another driver. Assuming 1.8 that's around 140,000 cab drivers.

Based on my personal experience, I would say something like 80% of cab drivers are from Isaan. Let's assume the 20% who aren't are ambivalent to the rally.

I would guess, that 50% of the Isaan taxi drivers weren't working during the day....that's about 56,000 people straight off. Let's assume 1/4 of them come to the rally (14,000) which is a massive turnout.

Of the 50% Isaan drivers who are working, perhaps 20% come to the rally, the rest are driving. That's another 14,000.

So straight away, we might have almost 30,000 people; assuming the rally actually did manage to reach say 65,000; that's almost 1/2 of them straight off.

There are at least 100,000+ Isaan security guards; 100,000+ maids; etc etc. In fact, the transient population of Bangkok hailing from TRT hometown are more from Isaan than the north (other than perhaps some labourer/factory jobs and of course the massage parlour industry which is a white skin business, unlike its farang equivalent) and in total well over 1 million people I would guess, many in the jobs we see like construction, security, labourer, maid, factory, taxi, motorcycle, tuk tuk - reflective of lower education and the need to work in the offseason or to move to the city if farming and agriculture fails to pay.

It can be safely assumed that as many or more of these people can be mobilised whenever; it is surprising that the red shirts could not manage this before. Certainly going to their areas helps.

But real born and raised Bangkokians? I don't and can't see the 'love' spouted. Ambivalence, a little love, a fair bit of frustration and skepticism. Such is the bane of being the educated middle class I suppose.

As for comparing the government to the lousy Governments of upcountry twits Banharn and Chavalit. Well, the red shirts seem pretty keen to bring back Chavalit, so you don't need a proxy for those governments, you might just get your wish of THailand's worst PM returning for another shot.

How the current govt is remotely similar to those governments I have no idea. Why don't you enlighten us; referencing specific policies and ministers will help for clarity.

Songkran mass exodus of Bangkok back to home towns mainly North east of Thailand ring any bells.

Many workers have roots in up country and if Mamma and Papa tell you to go out and support the cause you go out and support the cause.

Songkran is key to this.

If the reds can't shake the government by then many will leave for upcountry maybe to be given new orders for their return.

The country is very divided

RED vs Yellow and the troubled south.

The word weak came to mind.

That is kind of BS. We have the results of the last election to look at and also many polls to make some reasonable estimates about the level of support for the Thaksin puppet.

You believe the results from the last election to be a fair barometer.

Alice in wonderland is showing at the moment i recommend it to be far less more believable than what you quote.

Is it safe to say that the people who support the thaksin/the reds are comfortable with nationwide corruption?

I'm baffled by the support the reds get but I have to remind myself that they are the majority, which in itself is a sorry tale.

Based on the last election, they got slightly more votes, but are NOT the majority, as that would mean they have over 50 percent support of the Thai people, which based on the last election, they don't have. I also think it is clear the reds support has eroded since then. I am not saying they will or they won't win the next election, of course that is very possible.

Jingthing is right, the reds don't have over 50% support of the Thai people.

It would be more like 70% these days.

No wonder the current self-imposed government will try to avoid general elections at all costs.

That is a pipe dream and completely unsupportable. If you were right, how come the million man march only produced 10 percent of their goal?

Most of the figure on this site are pulled from the sky or obscure reports.

Only free elections can tell on this.

50% of the Thai Population love him 50% hate him.

My observation is that he is looking for a bigger position than running the government and all this is aimed at goal.

So much damage all around is being done at the moment.

For me a bloodless coup is the best and only option now.

Elections done under correct EU type supervision and lets get on with life.

Im more interested who the old cop is

He looks the more stoned to me.

Let's hope they have not done the old let's add washing up liquid.

If the fire hoses hit that hard red foam party time.

Enoch Powell's so-called 'Rivers of Blood' speech, which was delivered to a Conservative Association meeting in Birmingham on April 20 1968.

Is one of the most powerful speeches in the history of politics due to the vision it gave in most people's minds.

The international press are going to have hay day with these pictures which will paint a thousand words.

I fully agree that children should not figure in this and the picture of the young boy giving blood can be used by spin doctors in many ways.

Why is he not a school where are his parents etc, etc, etc. But yet again welcome to the real world that so many kids have to grow up in.

From the limited press in Bangkok the blood donations look well prepared and supervised well.

All in all its better to give by your own free will than to have it shoot or beat out of you on the steps of government house.

International press is defiantly reporting on the side of the demonstrators'.

BBC last night Mishal Husain asked one question the Thai government spokesman could not answer.

"Is it normal that your prime minister sleeps in an army barracks" The answer was almost comical

Just watch the international news.

My worry is that they disperse to cause thousands of little conflagrations all across the city.

Groups of 50-100 causing dozens or hundreds of disturbances, could then bring out local opposition,

as much as army overload, and like at Dindaeng last year, street confrontations happening all over

would be anarchy. A prime definition of the word actually.

Not much of a way to stop it,

other than the shear numbers of Bangkokians resenting the intrusion to their lives

and taking matters into their own hands.

It is an insane tactic and those who put it into motion should not be given quarter by the authorities.

This is not a way to democracy, but just the INVERSE of Democracy.

I drove behing a truck full of red shirts this morning in Nontraburi.

They got many cheers as they drove.

I have a feeling there is more rooted support than would like to be admitted by some in authority.

Songkran many Bangkok workers will return to their hometowns.

For many in Bangkok their roots are in the home town and Bangkok is viewed only as a way to make money and send it home.

The spin doctors paint a very bad picture of the reds.

The average Thai in the middle ground will easily change sides depending how this plays out over the next 24 hours.

These are the key people to all this and both sides know it.

Just happy no violence and almost a party like feeling.

What a difference twenty-four hours makes. This time yesterday the total number of red shirts in BKK at each of the six meeting points was reported as being woefully low (well less than 10,000 ).

Now with intelligence reporting that there has been a massive increase in numbers over the last twenty-four hours the government - or sources close to it - are reporting that a state of emergency may be declared sometime tomorrow on top of the ISA.

It's still a peaceful demonstration. Up to now there have been absolutely NO reports of violence.

What are the government scared of? Numbers.

Just what i was thinking

The government have tried every trick they can do so far.

so for those who like numbers, to amass 1 million protestors guessing that there are already 120k here

there need to be on average 37,446.8 red shirts arriving in bkk per hour for the next 23.5 hours

or 4680.8 pickups with 8 ppl per hour

or 12482.2 tuk tuks carrying 3 ppl per hour

or 18,723 buffalows with 2 riders per hour....

you forgot the sleepers working here. also, whole families of thousands of newly graduated didn't return to their provinces yet. So theoretically it could be. Then there are the employers, talking about small and medium companies, that need to fear most in case it gets out of control. I talked to some companies today and I was told that they're on a crisis watch 24 hours/day.

Songkran mass exodus returning to home towns in northern Thailand.

Ring any bells.

Many will not protest but if the swing of things start to go the reds way numbers can increase easily.

I doubt if UAE asked him to leave more moves by the spin doctors here.

I doubt if he is so stupid to cross the border at this point in time.

I doubt has the balls to lead from the front.

I do however think this is a good move at this point in time Thais love rumor and gossip and this will be on the jungle drums of the North east.

I do believe we are watching the beginning of the end. Im just not sure which way it will swing but swing for sure it will do.

At this point in time government have it covered well.

To bench mark this.

If Tom Jones calls off his concert its bad.

If Tom Jones does do his concert and is wearing a red or yellow jump suit it's very bad Karma.

Just like cows lying down before a storm lets see which way the great Tom goes with this.

All in all drawing lines to the dots it looking like hel_l of a time next weekend.

Me for one will be ensuring fully stocked up on food, water, alcohol and paint.

If it all goes very wrong first thing I will do is paint a union Jack on the roof and get ready for the airlift out.