Angelatarangela

Can someone please teach Mr. Browning the difference between "woman" and "women"?

Touche!

I remember 0.5m down Sukhumvit road near Emporium

Remarkable, the Emporium wasn't built or operating then ( 1995 ).

Bangkok - Thai teams on Tuesday captured 22 crocodiles that had escaped from a flooded farm near a popular beach resort and were hunting for more of the missing reptiles.

Wait, I'm confused--WHO is hunting for the missing reptiles? Someday the people who write headlines will learn to re-read them.

Hate to change the subject from American bashing but I wonder if the proposed dam_n will have negative consequences to the food supply of downstream nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekong, The Mekong River Commission, a panel of the region's nations, has accused China of blatantly disregarding the nations downstream in its plans to dam the river in an effort to stop the dams, but to no avail. Cambodia is by far the most exposed, depending on a fine balance of water flow, fearing scenarios of mass famine and devastating floods, the likes of which destroyed the Angkor kingdom 700 years ago.

When China builds all the damns and Vietnam and Cambodia go into starvation mode who you all going to ask to get China to stop? Australia.

Well you could, China doesn't hold the mortgage on Australia.

In the past, I owned a rural property with no access to a river or stream. I had a reservoir dug, and a contour put across the block to collect run-off rainwater. Eventually, that water would have reached a river, and if I had wished to pump out of that river, I would have needed a "water licence" but collected on my land it was mine to do with as I pleased.

Please tell me where the US or any other country obtains the right to tell the Chinese what to do with rain that falls in their country?

If they build dams purely for hydro generation, the total flow (minus a tad of evaporation) will be the same, without the massive peak flows. Dams will certainly not CAUSE devastating floods. If they wish to use it for irrigation, industry, or turn the flow north to water their deserts, it is their decision. If the Americans do ask the Chinese to stop and get a 2 word answer, they may want to consider the Rio Grande/Bravo before making a response.

You would think before you posted in a thread about damns that you would have at least the basic knowledge on international water rights as they are applied to rivers that cross international boundaries and some knowledge of the history of the Mekong River Commission. Your posts demonstrate you have no information that would qualify you to discuss the issue.

I am sorry but I am not able nor inclined to educate you to the level where anything you said may be meaningful.

Blather on as much as you like but unless you know the background of the Mekong you really don't know what you are talking about or why the Americans are concerned with the issue.

Hear, Hear! I would only add that you also seem to have a poor understanding of environmental interconnections or natural resource ownership and rights.

Day one - lovely, they were rasping away, keeping us amused by clinging onto the vase for the fountain to enjoy the gush of water. Day two - what was that hanging onto the side of that goldfish? A blooming louch! Apparently they shouldn't be put in with slow moving fish like goldfish as they like to latch onto other fish and eat their mucous coating. They can erode right through into the fish body. Needless to say they were found an alternative home, and we learnt to research things a bit more thoroughly.

We have found them to be interesting and stunning to watch , and as long as their water is kept clean, very easy to care for. They are all called Bob.

What kind of loach? Just curious.

Oops, sorry, I tried to reply, but somehow screwed it up, and now I can't get it back.

I would agree Angelatarangela. Please post back with details of the dogs you get and how you get on back home. :jap:

Sure thing, will do! It won't be 'till April though. My parents changed their plans. But the good thing is, maybe I can come with them now...

I can't give you a definitive answer, and it sounds like you have thought of quite a few things yourself. Here are my guesses.

Chemicals, as you said. Maybe shampoo, maybe detergent, maybe paint. It wouldn't have to be much at all to kill your fish. Probably not lead poisoning, but I guess it's possible.

Heavy rain could conceivably reduce the oxygen, but that shouldn't be a major problem for guppies, as they have quite a high tolerance for low oxygen water parameters. Also, depending on how the rain flows into your pond, rain could overoxygenate the water, which can also kill fish. More likely, I suspect, would be a temperature shock, or a pH shock from the rain.

Have you thought about disease or parasites? It's possible they caught something and died. Usually healthy fish are able to overcome disease threats, but sometimes they do succumb, and if this was a particularly bad strain of some disease, that could explain it. Did you add any new fish recently? Do any of the fish show signs of disease? (white spots, ulcers, really emaciated?)

Good luck! How are the fish doing now?

Hi All

I'm looking for a reliable, reputable Baankaew breeder, preferably in or around Bangkok. My parents will be in Thailand in December and I'm hoping I can source a couple of puppies to bring back to me (in the US). I used to have a BK, but she died a few years ago. When I was last in Thailand I bought two BK puppies from some guy who seemed pretty bonafide, but when it came down to it he didn't have the right puppies, so he gave us other puppies--he already had half our money, and he wouldn't give it back, so we thought we might as well go for broke. Turns out they weren't properly vaccinated either. Within two weeks of getting them home they were both dead, one of parvovirus, and the other of distemper I haven't got another dog since, because I can't bear to have one that's not a BK!

If you have had a good experience with a BK breeder, please let me know who they were and how I can get in touch with them.

Thanks in advance!

What is it you love about them? I think the OP knows about good breeders and other people have talked about a good breeder on this or another thread. There was also a woman who wanted to breed them in the states but I do not know if she did. She started a thread about it here.

This site may help;

http://www.thaibangkaewshowcase.com/

If you are going to breed in the us you might as well get some/one from this line;

http://www.mcot.net/...page/88100.html

In this same province resides the most beautiful male Thai Bang Kaew in the country called 'Jao Sun'. The dog belongs to Pichai Kamsuwan, owner of Palm Place Kennel.

Jao Sun is famous nationwide among Thai Bang Kaew lovers for the countless trophies received at dog shows. Pichai said it was because the canine has all the features suitable for a male Thai Bang Kaew according to international standards.

Thanks for those sites! They are great. I've looked and looked online but never came across them myself. I'm not sure I can afford any pups with too much of Jao Sun in them, but a little would be nice. Mostly I just want decent bloodlines and no congenital problems (hips, patella, etc) I'm not planning on showing them, and they aren't recognised by the AKC.

I love Bangkaew for so many reasons. They are loyal to a fault: affectionate to their families, but not needy or annoyingly friendly. They are aloof with strangers--which I like, because I want my dog to be my dog. They are intelligent and independent--sometimes stubborn, but that just adds to their personality, and once you have earned their trust and built a relationship, you are bonded for life. They are not the 'yes-men' of the dog world by any means; that's up to the golden retrievers and labs

I don't think BK's are the dog for everyone. They are more complicated than most breeds, and take more training, more patience, and more psychology. They can be fiercely territorial if you let them, and their aggression can be a problem if they aren't well trained. That said, I know they are the dog for me, and if I do decide to breed them, people over here can find out how great they are as well!

Thanks again for your suggestions!

Are you all ( who post replies here ) live in Thailand ? I is amazing to see how much hatered most of you have to this place or yuo just like to troll . Don't you want this campain to be a success ?

I think you are misunderstanding the intent of the people posting. They're not expressing hatred of Thailand--probably, in fact, the exact opposite. I, for one, love Thailand. What I hate to see is a big waste of a scarce resource (money) on a project that won't succeed, and may actually do damage. All this will happen because of poor research and planning, major corruption, and this idea the Thai government has that seeking outside help (eg, a native English speaker) is somehow losing face. I (dare I say we?) want to see Thailand succeed--I (we) have a vision of what it could be like--but I (we) are also realistic about the challenges it faces, and the self imposed obstacles that too often make Thailand its own worst enemy.

I think that TAT needs a farang advisor. First off the word miracle is in essence a religious term, and it is absurd to use it in an advertising campaign. Second of all, I think the 8 billion baht would be better spent to stop scams, that would yield them much better results in the long term....

Thirdly, shouldn't it be Miraculous Thailand? I mean, it is being used as an adjective here. They should probably use the adjective form of the word. Or maybe they are going for cute-sounding Thaiglish...

Not to mention that Thais will have a hard time pronouncing the word "miracle" given that Thai doesn't have a final "L" sound. The Thai letter equivalent to "L" is pronounced like an "N" when it is final, as in the way Thais pronounce the word "central" in "Central Plaza" (i.e. "sen-TRAN pla-SAA"). They would pronounce "miracle" like "mi-ra-KAN" if it is transliterated the same way that "central" is.

Even "miraculous" has this problem, as the Thai letters equivalent to the letter "S" are pronounced like a "T" when final. Think the Thai word for bus, "rot-bat", where "bat" is the word "bus" transliterally (don't get me started on the vowels).

I can see it going even farther: "Mili-kan Thai-ran!" It's a miracle if they don't ALL run!

For the love of all things holy (pun intended) can the TAT please do some market research! Get someone who actually speaks English, don't just use the thesaurus on your black market copy of Microsoft Word. At least Amazing Thailand was grammatically correct and made sense. Besides which, it was so easy to make fun of! Oh well! Goodbye, Amazing Thailand; hello, "it'll be a Miracle if the tourist industry survives"!

Hi All

I'm looking for a reliable, reputable Baankaew breeder, preferably in or around Bangkok. My parents will be in Thailand in December and I'm hoping I can source a couple of puppies to bring back to me (in the US). I used to have a BK, but she died a few years ago. When I was last in Thailand I bought two BK puppies from some guy who seemed pretty bonafide, but when it came down to it he didn't have the right puppies, so he gave us other puppies--he already had half our money, and he wouldn't give it back, so we thought we might as well go for broke. Turns out they weren't properly vaccinated either. Within two weeks of getting them home they were both dead, one of parvovirus, and the other of distemper I haven't got another dog since, because I can't bear to have one that's not a BK!

If you have had a good experience with a BK breeder, please let me know who they were and how I can get in touch with them.

Thanks in advance!

"...if an autopsy is needed?" I'm pretty sure they should do an autopsy.

Regardless if they committed any crime or not. They should have a right to an attourney or lawyer to hear their case. Well that's what happens in a democracy and a country with civil rights. But if this isn't a place why not put the in a concentration camp without any rights? I am hoping Thailand is better than that.

Lets not go backwards. Go forwards. This is not a detterent. The -ankers on here who support any colour would like to see the times of the middle ages, with hands chopped off and branding. If people do wrong by all means punish them. But at least give them a chance to express themselves and have a defence case. What has happened to everyone? Whatever your politics, don't forget your moral human compassion.

the world unfortunately is in the state it is by listening to moral filled do gooders such as yourself,

this is about a country trying to evolve, so let go of human rights for a week or two and all this mess in the world will be settled, without the help of the US and UK,

Billpatt, don't you realise that this whole mess is about human rights, or a lack thereof? Whether the human rights abuses are real or perceived is irrelevant to the actualities of the situation. Do you honestly think that bulldozing any semblance of democracy, for the sake of reestablishing democracy, can ever work?

Well done, Thai Visa people...you got me. That's the first time I've been April Fooled before it was even April 1 where I live

So now it's not just the vendors who 'fan falang.' Robbing white people is a national, and government sanctioned pastime. Not that this is anything new. Foreigners have been paying ten times the price of Thais at Khao Yai, and other national parks for some time now.

I'd like to see how Thais around the world would feel if we suddenly slapped a 'foreigner' tax on them whenever they came to our respective countries. No, no, that would never happen, because we don't promote discrimination and overt xenophobia at every turn.

Bring on the revolution, and wave goodbye to the tourists!

I had an unfortunate experience buying two Bangkaew puppies from Chatuchak in January. I went to a shop that appeared to be reputable, with credentials, who claimed to have experience preparing dogs to be taken overseas. We selected the two puppies we wanted, payed a down payment, as well as the money for the dogs to be fully vaccinated, microchipped, dewormed, and for their pedigree papers. We also paid the shop owner to keep the puppies for us, as we were staying in a hotel, and could not keep them there

We had nothing but trouble from that moment. First one of the puppies got sick, and then the other. On the day we were scheduled to take the dogs, the shopkeeper said that they were both sick, and brought us two other dogs. The pedigrees he gave us showed that the dogs were so closely related we couldn't possibly breed them, as we had planned, so he changed the pedigree papers. When I said that that was not acceptable, and questioned the validity of any of the pedigree papers, he became threatening and aggressive. So we said that we would take our money back and leave the dogs, but he refused to do that. In the end we had no choice but to take the dogs. I am also pretty sure that the rabies vaccination certificates and veterinary certificates he gave us were false as well. The vaccination stickers were misspelled for one, and no veterinarian would have given a health certificate to puppies which had not been dewormed or vaccinated.

The dogs came on the plane with us, and one of them was sick for the entire trip, from what later turned out to be parvovirus, which he should have been vaccinated for. Parvovirus kills 80% of the puppies that contract it, and although the first sick puppy recovered from the parvo, the second puppy also contracted it, and sadly died. Then the first puppy became sick again. He was infected with several species of intestinal worms, as well as coccidia and giardia, all of which can be transmitted to people and other animals. Although I treated him for those problems, he ultimately became sick and died of distemper, another disease that he should have been vaccinated against.

I am very disappointed in the way this turned out, as well as angry at a breeder and pet shop owner who treats his animals with so little care. It begs the question of how many hundreds of dogs die because they are not vaccinated adequately, or cared for properly. I'm also concerned for the breeding standards demonstrated. If a breeder has so little concern for promoting healthy breeding and bloodlines, the breeds will soon become either inbred or crossbred, neither of which are desirable outcomes. The Bangkaew, for one, is a national Thai treasure, and the people who are responsible for breeding the dogs should have enough respect for the breed and the individual dogs to take the inexpensive precautionary measures to protect them from such avoidable diseases as my two puppies died from.

I am in the process of drafting a letter to the Thai Kennel Club, which is supposedly where the pedegrees were issued. I will also be sending them a copy of the (probably false) pedigrees, and a letter from my veterinarian here. I don't know if they can do anything about the problems, but I would urge anyone else who has had similar problems, to do the same. The time has never been more ripe for a crackdown on pet shops in Chatuchak, which despite having the potential to be a well managed area of trade, have turned themselves into a disgrace to breeders.

I hope to obtain a breeding pair of Bangkaews in the future. They are fantastic dogs, and I think that more of the world should have the opportunity to experience Bangkaew ownership. But I can certainly tell you that next time I attempt to import dogs, I will go about it in an entirely different way.

If anyone is interested, the name of the shop from which I obtained the unfortunate puppies was << xxxxx >>. I don't have the name of the owner. I would highly recommend NOT buying ANY animals from this shop.