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Given the MP's which previously supported the redz jumped ship to the Demz side garnering them a majority of MP's in the Lower House, and thereby the mandate to form and run the government; I guess it's "cry foul", "the people didn't get to vote for PM", "it's not fair" or "insert your lame argument here".

Firstly, the tone of your response amounts to little more than childish mocking, as if that somehow makes your argument in any way more valid.

Then, in a long and rambling way, you are saying that you agree with a bunch of corrupt generals kicking out a government that was elected, and replacing it with one that wasn't.

Then, you go on to deny the fact that the reds may actually have a majority, as was proven in two successive elections. Why are you people so afraid to put it to the test - hold an election and then respect the wishes of the people by allowing the people they elect to rule.

If Abhisit is so popular like you seem to think that he is, then what is he afraid of? He can get elected, keep his job, and confound teh reds argument that his position is illegitimate.

Unfortunately, I don't suffer fools lightly, nor people who won't spend a little internet time researching facts before they post. It appears that in all likelihood my inclusion of facts in the post must have confounded you, and not my mocking tone.

BTW: If you think that's a mocking tone, consider yourself mocked.

Now in rebuttal

Nope, no where in the post did I say that I agreed with what happened during the coup, BUT only all that had happened; the coup, the new constitution, the change in electoral law, had ALL taken place BFORE Samak (the I am Thaksin's nominee) and Somchai (the I am Thaksin's Brother In Law) came to be PM's. The lower house voted for Samak, and again Somchai because they had a majority of MP's on their side. Once they couldn't get a majority it was a free-for-all on who could, and the Demz did under the SAME constitution and same electoral laws as Samak and Somchai.

Sorry man, the entire mess the country's in is all about what's happened post-coup stuff and really mostly about the Redz (aka; TRT/PPP/PTP) not getting to run the government. It's just plain sour grapes which has turned this country on its ear. Last time there were elections which was post coup; NO party got a majority of Lower House seats, necessitating the forming of coalitions.

Also no where did I say Abhisit was popular, what I did say was that he, using the exact same constitution and electoral rules, got a majority of MP's and thereby the chance to run his government just like Samak and Somchai did before him. Why did the thai people think it was okay then, but then a minority of them came out of the proverbial woodwork AFTER the PTP couldn't get a majority of MP's on their side to wave their frickin' red flag?

It's an argument that doesn't hold water, especially given the current minority in the government the "Beau-Thai-Party" said they wouldn’t participate in the constitutional reforms unless there were pre-agreed conditions which had to be met before they'd even show up at the table to begin discussions about the amendments. That effectively shut down the amendment process because under the current constitution the government can't do it with a simple majority of MP's, that's not how it's written.

Hey but thanx for taking my words out of context, and misquoting me, <mock> <mock>. ..

Hope you feel better now. Your posting superiority and keen sense of the obvious clearly outweighs mine. I humbly bow to your incredibly insightful if awfully skewed posting penchant.

Now be a good little posting puppet and go wave your foot-clapper..

Good Post, Tod-daniels! Very insightful information in your post. (and very good rebutting style) *applause*

The PM has a lot to answer for

Sending the army into an area and closing all the beer bars

seems all the party eyed lady fanciers, are having to spend their time on TV

PM please reopen the bars so we can get back to serious postings

ozzieman05 I love reading your posts! Hahaha... way to go man!

Exactly, that was the first question that came to my head... what happened to the boy and the uncle?

The report isn't very clear...

Anyway, RIP...

I think the the ladies who answered my emails from the Asok and Phayathai branches are 2 differerent ladies.

The one from Asok, most probably the boss who Tod-daniels was referring to, speaks pretty good English whereas the one from Phayathai branch seems to me somewhat less proficient.

But Tod-daniels you are right... I emailed many schools and so far Thai Language Solutions (especially the Asok branch) responded the fastest and provided the most helpful information. That's why I am pretty impressed and decided to take classes from them instead of Unity language school which I originally wanted to go to.

And maeowyai, thanks for the helpful advice too! I will join the class and perhaps post my feedback here at a later stage

Why is there no more live updates on the Saturday updates thread?

Probably because it's Sunday

But Abhisit made his speech when it was still Saturday

And there is no Live updates for Sunday... at least not yet hahaha....

I am curious about what exactly Abhisit said just now

Why is there no more live updates on the Saturday updates thread?

I think Abhisit was just on television 5 mins ago.

If they black it out tonight again, guess where the red shirts will head first thing tomorrow morning? Let's hope the army and police don't need to nerve-gas and smoke-bomb themselves again.

It's as good as a complete blackout for me already. ICT blocked me on the internet.... and no signal on my satellite TV.

*yawnz*

bangkok post reporting army troops have reoccupied the thaicom station again and blackout the reds tv again.

Might be true, but I am still watching it right now.

As I am too!! Maybe they haven't figured out how to turn it off?

Seems like it is not working for some people. My Internet is provided by that company that is the opposite of False ... the ones with the visions Same-same, chai mai?

I can't watch it... my internet service provider is OTT (do some rearrangement please.... haha). And TV is completely blacked out.

bangkok post reporting army troops have reoccupied the thaicom station again and blackout the reds tv again.

Might be true, but I am still watching it right now.

I think you'd better not close your link since you can still watch it since you started at 8:30.

I tried to go to the link but i received a pop up window saying the ICT has blocked it....

I am watching it too. Been watching it since about 8:30 pm.

It surely must be the end of the day for the "prettyboy puppet" Abhisit. Nobody takes the slightest notice of him or his decrees.

Nah, I was watching Abhisit on TV just now too. Would like to know what both sides are saying.

^watching it right now.

where where?

Contrary to what the Nation editor is spouting out of his backside, the signal from People Channel is very clear tonight. The signal from Saudi Arabia was less clear, but still perfectly audible. The Nation editor must have a really poor Internet connection.

TV Signal was very clear indeed, until the part when Thaksin was supposed to come on, the signal was suddenly gone. What a disappointment.

# Oh dear, anti-red people plan to gather and block Rajthewi intersection to protest "state failure." (via ASTV) 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Haha this is getting everyone nowhere. Next you will see anti-anti-red people.... and then anti-anti-anti-red people so the rest is history.

(edited a spelling typo.)

We will know when tomorrow comes.....

Thanks Parvis, for your advice

To quote the lady from the Asoke branch:

For Reading and Writing Course, we have been teaching at our school with 2 methods.

2.1 Teaching Reading and Writing by Thai Theory.

This method is used the most now for many Thai language schools. It is original method and the same method as for Thai people have learned from Thai schools.

This method suits to students who would like to gain writing which is the most difficult skill for Thai language. We normally interview students before the class. And if we find out that students are purposed to learn writing, we will offer them by Thai Theory.

2.2 Teaching Reading by Rapid Method.

This method is only from Thai Language Solutions. The method focus on reading quickly by pictures help.( Visual Learning ). We created this method because it helps for students who are purposed to read Thai in daily and to avoid the phonetic alphabets from text books. As we begin with this method, we found that most of

students who have learned by this method are satisfied for reading skill. Most of them are business men. Therefore it quite suit them to read Thai for their business.

And the lady from the Phayathai branch:

We have different method and textbook from Asok. (we teach Thai in Thai by different technics in classes to make the students understand and can use Thai without English but for beginner the teacher will use English sometimes also).

Seems like they employ different techniques although both are Thai Language Solutions.

I have seen the textbook from the Asoke branch, but not the one from the Phayathai branch.

Has anyone actually attended Thai Language Solutions Language School?

There are 2 branches, one at Asoke, and the other at Phayathai.

I have checked with both branches, and I was told the 2 schools apply different teaching methods and textbooks.

I was quite impressed by the textbook which the Asoke branch is using. And the service seems good too - the lady replied to all my enquiries promptly and sent me sample pages of their textbooks and workbooks without hesitation when I requested for them.

Has anyone attended this school?

I would like to seek some feedback on how serious the school is in its teaching, and the effectiveness of their method. Also, on how serious they are in their teaching of the reading and writing aspect?

Appreciate any feedback.... thanks!

TAN Network: Red-shirt leader 'Rambo E-sarn' gives out EC chairman Apichart S. home address and phone number on red-shirt stage.

This is a most horrid thing to do. Amitahba.

I suppose you do not have a business yourself. Clearly a lot of money is lost; all fixed costs just continue and not all purchases will be delayed. What if you own a restaurant in one of these shopping malls?

And also the tourists (who are usually large spenders) who are here only over the weekend.

THE NATION: Red shirts demand BMA send mobile toilets immediately "or we'll use this area as our toilets."

HUR?

This is getting more and more absurd.

THE NATION: Red leaders asking stores at Rajaprasong to open for protesters so they can use toilets.

Hahaha..... I wonder why those stores decided to close their doors in the first place

Love this cartoon. About sums it up.

I love this... it's hilarious~

The 2,000 Baht gas money paid to red shirt drivers can hardly be considered as getting paid to protest. Anyone who's ever been outside of Bangkok (probably 1% of ThaiVisa posters), driving to Chiang Mai or the North-East, knows that gas costs at least that much, likely even more, to even get to Bangkok, than just 2,000 Baht. So if they got 2,000 Baht, they probably paid some additional money out of their own pockets.

Why the pink shirts didn't get paid 2,000 Baht is probably due to the fact that walking from the Silom office building to the Lumpini park is free.

My friends were not instigated by the pinks, nor do they know any leaders of the pinks. They gave their support.... in their office attire, not pink shirts, out of their own accord.

Anyway, my friends in Nan province, north of Thailand, said they were offered THB5,000 by the red shirts to join in the reds' protests.

If they are allowed to protest while being paid to work, are they not thus being paid to protest?

EDIT: If so, I would hazard a guess that the amount would be at least 2000B.

Possibly they took half a day off, or they are making it up working overtime.

Or they could have taken time off with out their boss knowing.

But I suppose you can spin it whatever way you like to suit your views.

I second that!

If reds can protest, why can't the people of Bangkok show their displeasure at the inconvenience the current red protests have caused them?

Well, if boss did not complain and is willing to let them off work for that few hours, then why not?

This is not the same as 'paying to protest' in the sense of pinks buying people to be there... maybe this is not what is meant in the usage of the phrase, but it sure is misleading.

Nah, I don't think it has anything to do with being 'paid to protest'. Like my friends, they all work in private companies, and some go there out of curiosity, and some are really fed up with the red shirts, and thus they decided to join in the pinks. These people are highly paid in their jobs, working in high positions in big MNCs. Definitely not people who accept THB2000 to show their presence.