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I have a one year unlimited data sim card from DTAC that I use in Thailand but can't use outside of Thailand.

Does anyone know if I can buy a one year unlimited data sim card that I can use outside of Thailand?

I guess all I can do is tell them that I would like to cancel based on the fact that I want to enter Thailand at the end of November on a 60 day tourist visa.

If you have never heard of this being done, they will probably tell me "can not" !

Didn't realize that I would be able to have my re-entry permit canceled. That's a good idea in order to insure that I'll be able to obtain a 60 day tourist visa.

However, in the past, I have been able to obtain a Non -Immigrant  O-A Visa  even tho my existing O-A had not expired.

Since you can never tell how the Thai Consulate will act, canceling my existing re-entry permit would be the best way to proceed in order to be safe.

Didn't realize that I would be able to have my re-entry permit canceled. That's a good idea in order to insure that I'll be able to obtain a 60 day tourist visa.

However, in the past, I have been able to obtain a Non -Immigrant  O-A Visa  even tho my existing O-A had not expired.

Since you can never tell how the Thai Consulate will act, canceling my existing re-entry permit would be the best way to proceed in order to be safe.

Thanks for that information Joe.

In other words, if I'm able to obtain a 60 day tourist visa and enter before my re-entry permit expires, my 60 day tourist visa will override my re-entry permit.

However, if I don't have a 60 day tourist visa, I will have to ask the immigration officer to disregard my re-entry permit and allow me to enter as a tourist.

Is that correct?

I would like to confirm that my understanding of obtaining a Type o Non-Immigrant Visa is correct.

My understanding that the only way you can obtain a 90 day type O Non-Immigrant Visa in Thailand is to have a Tourist Visa or you must obtain a 90 day Non-Immigrant Visa from a Thai Consulate in another country.

You can't convert a one year retirement extension based on a Non-Immigrant O-A in Thailand to a Type O Non-Immigrant Visa.

I currently have a one year permission to stay based on retirement from my Non-Immigrant Type O-A. My permission to stay expires on Dec. 08, 2021. I will be leaving Thailand next month and plan on returning at the end of November 2021. My re-entry permit expires on Dec. 06,2021.

My plan is to obtain a 60 day Tourist Visa and, when I enter Thailand, I will convert my Tourist Visa to a 90 day Type O. I then will be able to obtain a one year permission to stay based on retirement from my 90 day Type O Visa.

The reason I would like to do this is because one does not have to have insurance if your one year permission to stay based on retirement is from a Non-Immigrant Type O instead of a Non-Immigrant Type O-A. 

Can anyone confirm that my understanding of this situation is correct?  

17 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'm white, and I don't feel disrespected or discriminated against by the NBA...

 

Because, pretty much no one in America needs to be reminded that "white lives matter." No need to splash that slogan across basketball courts. Because, white lives have always mattered more than any other ethnic group in the U.S., with its ample history of racial discrimination against minority groups.

 

On the other hand, it seems like A LOT of white Americans very much need reminding that "Black Lives Matter" as well, and should matter just as much/equally as everyone else... Sadly, it's posts and opinions like yours that amply demonstrate that discrimination against minorities and white victim anger are alive and well in the U.S.

 

If you read my post, at no time did I state that they should put on their court that "white lives matter".

That would be discriminating against other racial groups. I said they should put on their court that "all lives matter". Of course, white liberals can't understand that putting on their court "black lives matter" discriminates against whites, asians, latinos and all other racial groups. 

Hard for me to understand that suggesting they put the slogan "all lives matter" on their court means that my opinion expresses discrimination against minorities, but I never have been able to understand the philosophy of white liberals.

I suggest that after watching the NBA and supporting BLM, you and your white liberal friends write and an e-mail or a letter to BLM and apologize to them for being white!         

On 8/25/2020 at 8:40 AM, mrwebb8825 said:

Nope. Will never waste my time watching a bunch of millionaires disrespecting the country, the flag and the anthem pretending that life is unfair based on your race, religion, environment, background, etc. when they didn't have the sack to join and defend the very country that made them overnight millionaires. And then to also have them demand they still get paid but refuse to play because there's nobody in the stands cheering for them. I'd wager that none of them can even point to the "offending words" in the anthem that they're protesting. Not to mention they're refusal to stop taking 40% of their profits from China or shun the inhumane atrocities carried out by the Chinese government for fear of losing a few kilos of heroin worth of salary.

At least the WWE hired a few extras to act as an audience and carried on entertaining their fans at home stuck on lockdown.

OK, sorry-rant over

Couldn't agree more.

The NBA is a racist organization that descriminates against white people and supports BLM.

I used to be a big fan but no more.

If they had "All Lives Matter" written on their court instead "Black Lives Matter" than I would consider watching them.

The white liberals that watch the NBA and support their BLM cause aren't smart enough to understand that they are being disrespected!

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You would not be able to apply for the extension before leaving the country. The will not accept an application more than 45 days early or 30 days at some offices.

That is correct.

Thanks for that information.

Regarding extension of retirement visa, my retirement visa will expire on June 25,2020. I currently have permission to stay until 12/08/2020. My plan was to take a trip over Songkran, and come back to Thailand and obtain a new permission to stay until April 2021. With corona virus, those plans have changed. I plan on leaving the first week of June. 

Does anyone know if Immigration would allow me to apply for an extension before I leave even tho my visa doesn't expire until 6/25/20?

If they will not, than I will have to obtain a reentry permit if I plan to come back before 12/08/2020. 

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Many offices have stated that there is no minimum amount when using the combination option. But it has stay in the bank for 3 months after the application and then half of it must be kept in the bank until it topped up 2 months before the next application.

Some people have just assumed it would be 400k baht.

If I understand you correctly, if I sold my condo for 2 million baht and deposited the amount in my bank account, I could not use that deposit for the  THB 800,000 financial requirement.

I would have to transfer THB 800,000 of the money out of the country and transfer it back in and leave it in my account for a minimum of three months in order to use this deposited money to satisfy the THB 800,000 requirement.

Is that correct?

That's what I thought.......thanks for that info!

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes. Note the reentry permit desk is just prior to passport control at BKK airport and just PAST passport control at DM airport.

My question is basically, if reentry permit desk is just prior to passport control at Suvarnabhumi, is there a possibility that they would allow a person to go to reentry permit desk and apply for a reentry permit without a boarding pass?

In other words, you have to have a boarding pass in order get to departure area and apply for a reentry permit.

They would not let you go to departure area and apply at immigration without a boarding pass. 

I know that you can apply for reentry permit at departure area prior to flight.

Does anyone know if you can apply for a reentry permit after you have arrived at airport and received your permit to stay stamp in your passport?  

Be advised that a obtained a multi Non O-A Retirement Visa on June 26, 2019.

When I entered Thailand on Dec. 10, immigration officer said I needed insurance.

I told him it my understanding that I would not need insurance since visa was obtained before October 31, 2019. After about 5 minutes he finally agreed to let me enter and he informed me that he will put in the computer that the next time I enter Thailand on this visa, I would need proof of insurance. He said that I would be allowed to enter without insurance on my first entry but all entries after that I would need proof of insurance. Since he stamped me in for one year until December 8, 2020, I did not bother to argue with him further.

It appears that a lot of these immigration officers don't understand the rules and it is the luck of the draw regarding whether or not one will have a problem. Since he stamped me in for one year, i will just assume that he was confused and if I have a problem the next time I enter Thailand on this visa I will request to speak to a supervisor.

1 hour ago, Cory1848 said:

I had exactly that problem. I had a nonimmigrant retirement visa in my passport, issued by the Chiang Mai immigration office last year and valid until August 4 of this year. I wanted to switch to an O-A visa, given the change in rules (no longer able to get an income affidavit) and given that I would be visiting the United States anyway (I’m American).

 

 

 

So I visited the Thai embassy in Washington this past April to apply for the O-A visa and was told that that would be impossible, because I still had a valid retirement visa in my passport, and I could not have two valid visas simultaneously. I can see the sense in that and then asked them to simply cancel the earlier visa, but they said they could not do that, because they had not originally issued the visa.

 

 

 

Then I had a friend in Chiang Mai visit the immigration office there to see if I could Fed-Ex my passport to her, and have her deliver the passport to the immigration office and have them cancel the visa, then have her Fed-Ex it back to me. Nope -- for some reason, Chiang Mai immigration said they could not do that, either.

 

 

 

That left two options: pretend to lose my US passport and apply for a new one, which would have no extant visas inside; or stay in the US a few extra months until the visa naturally expired. I opted for the latter, successfully applied for the O-A visa last week, and will hopefully pick it up at the Thai embassy tomorrow morning.

 

 

 

Different people may have different experiences with this.

 

Looks like  different Consulates have different rules.

I had no problem obtaining a new O-A retirement visa in June about 5 months before my existing O-A retirement visa expires in November at the Thai Consulate in Chicago.

On 6/10/2019 at 11:13 AM, DrJack54 said:

OP, one assumes your thinking about applying for a non OA

Personally if I was I would do it now. Perhaps the insurance requirement may come in July 1 maybe not. Perhaps not at all. I would have obtained one already if I had been planning to obtain one. You can't obtain one now in next few weeks with police clearance, medical etc etc. You can get almost 2 yrs out of an O-A.

OP you state ..."have been reading'... why did you not apply already if that was your desired Visa. 

Already have an O-A Visa that expires after July 1 but I may obtain a new one before July 1 if I am certain they will enforce this provision.

I have obtained a new O-A Visa before my old one expired in the past at Thai Consulate in U.S. so it should not be a problem.

My question concerns the health care insurance requirement regarding new retirement visas obtained at Thai consulates outside of Thailand.

I have been reading that they will start enforcing this requirement on July 1.

Does anyone know if this is a done deal or is it still under consideration?  

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If the immigration officer used your re-entry permit you would stamped in until April 17th, 2020.

If you asked him not to use the re-entry you would get a 30 day visa exempt entry.

Thanks for clarifying that Ubon Joe!

50 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Your permission to stay would remain unchanged.

I didn't mention that I'm a U.S. citizen.

It is my understanding that U.S. citizens do not require a Visa to enter Thailand and immigration will issue a stamp in the passport of a U.S. citizen permitting a 30 day stay in Thailand.

I interpret this to mean that upon arrival in Thailand on 4-10-20, I will be permitted to stay 30 days and have 30 days to apply for an extension.

On 5/17/2019 at 8:00 PM, jacko45k said:

On 5/17/2019 at 4:20 AM, TBKK said:

I have a O-A retirement visa that expires on 11-13-19. I currently am allowed to stay in the Kingdom of Thailand until 4-17-2020. If I obtain a single reentry permit when I leave at the end of this month and come back to Thailand in December 1919,  the reentry permit will be good until 4-17-2020 and I will have to apply for a extension of my retirement visa before 4-17-2020. Is that correct?  

Yes, that seems correct. Although I would say your permission of stay will be until 4-17-20. The re-entry permit has been used and you should have got a stamp for 4-17-20. You will need to apply before that date for any retirement extension. 

I have one other question regarding the above referenced post.

If I have permission to stay in Thailand until 4-17-20 and leave and come back on 4-10-20 with a reentry permit, would my new permission to stay be extended 60 days to 6-17-20 or would my permission to stay remain at 4-17-20?

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure where you got the 2k baht number from.

A single reentry permit is 1000 baht and multiple is 3800 baht. At the airports they charge a additional service charge of 200 baht to do the form, photo and copies.

I have a O-A retirement visa that expires on 11-13-19. I currently am allowed to stay in the Kingdom of Thailand until 4-17-2020. If I obtain a single reentry permit when I leave at the end of this month and come back to Thailand in December 1919,  the reentry permit will be good until 4-17-2020 and I will have to apply for a extension of my retirement visa before 4-17-2020. Is that correct?  

On 2/22/2019 at 11:39 AM, onera1961 said:

They don't care full medical check up. Why do you want to do a full medical check up? 

You need to take the form provided in the embassy website and get your doctor sign it, stamp it, and if required notarize it. I applied in Washington DC and that does not require notarization. What the doctor does is between you and your doctor. My doctor did not do any thing. He looked at it, laughed at it and signed it. 
 

 

The new medical certificate form that Ubon Joe submitted does not contain any requirement to have the certificate notarized, the old form did. I interpret this to mean that you no longer have to have your doctor notarize the medical certificate.

17 hours ago, AAArdvark said:

Medical certificate  (I was able to get my primary care doctor to order a couple of the tests and he then signed the certificate.  My insurance paid for it)

I get my O - A visa every year back in the States also.

I noticed that they want the medical certificate notarized, which is kind of ridiculous but my doctor complies and takes the form to a notary to have the form notarized for me.

I think that they would not be so strict about this requirement as long as it is signed by a licensed physician but my doctor is a friend of mine so he takes the form to a notary just to be sure that I don't have a problem.

Did your doctor take this medical form to a notary to have it notarized or did he just fill it out, sign it, and give it back to you?